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#1 Sep 19 2007 at 8:18 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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how are male characters supposed to play this??

can i know? the moment a guy plays this he will be branded **** and from that point on all **** people can hit on him freely and w/o fear for he is ****.
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#2 Sep 19 2007 at 8:19 PM Rating: Good
I think this is a fabulous addition to our lineup and am looking forward to trying it out.
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Bards were "****" too when the game was released in NA.

Edited, Sep 20th 2007 12:20am by mrjingles
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#4 Sep 19 2007 at 8:20 PM Rating: Good
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LOL!!!! how true is that XD.
#5 Sep 19 2007 at 8:20 PM Rating: Excellent
Master ketrel wrote:
how are male characters supposed to play this??

can i know? the moment a guy plays this he will be branded **** and from that point on all **** people can hit on him freely and w/o fear for he is ****.


Smiley: oyvey

I bet that the af for males is modified. They have to know how scared American males are of looking effeminate.
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#6 Sep 19 2007 at 8:20 PM Rating: Good
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I always thought white mage was a fairly feminine job, but nobody complained. I doubt anyone is going to opt against trying dancer because it is somewhat feminine.
#7Master ketrel, Posted: Sep 19 2007 at 8:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) they were not... they were awesome
#8 Sep 19 2007 at 8:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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I always thought white mage was a fairly feminine job, but nobody complained. I doubt anyone is going to opt against trying dancer because it is somewhat feminine.


You know, i bet some will...but whatever. Its not like a mushroom hat (brd) or fuzzy armor showing your midriff (bst), or frilly shirts (cor) are overly manly either.

Whatever, the less people that play it the more I'll most likely get invited, so think what you all want to.

I like it.
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#9 Sep 19 2007 at 8:23 PM Rating: Default
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i dont think the job is **** i think the af is kinda feminan and let me be clear i have nothing against **** people i believe that they should be able to get married and all of that fun stuff but SE really should have added a more gender neutral job.
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#10 Sep 19 2007 at 8:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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i dont think the job is **** i think the af is kinda feminan and let me be clear i have nothing against **** people i believe that they should be able to get married and all of that fun stuff but SE really should have added a more gender neutral job.


Like a spoony bard?

Honestly.
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#11 Sep 19 2007 at 8:25 PM Rating: Default
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Like a spoony bard?

Honestly.


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#12Master ketrel, Posted: Sep 19 2007 at 8:27 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) exactly
#13 Sep 19 2007 at 8:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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She just needs to lose those pants under her skirt on the AF pic.
#14 Sep 19 2007 at 8:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Of course the AF looks feminine ... it is shown on a chick, after all.
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#15 Sep 19 2007 at 8:32 PM Rating: Excellent
Can it be worse than this?

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My guess is that the male version won't have the midriff and flower. Well hopefully not the flower. :X But then again male's do have belly shirts with the war af, BRD jse, and the Ultima armor.
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#17 Sep 19 2007 at 8:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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My guess is that the male version won't have the midriff and flower. Well hopefully not the flower. :X But then again male's do have belly shirts with the war af, BRD jse, and the Ultima armor.


And bst af. Check it out. It's def there. Smiley: lol
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**** man you beat me to this title, but I was scared to post because it was empty and I thought it was a hacker playing in the forums
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#19 Sep 19 2007 at 8:48 PM Rating: Good
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Male AF looks somewhat like Mc hammers pants and shirt!



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#21 Sep 19 2007 at 9:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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the moment a guy plays this he will be branded ****

I already think this when I see a male Elvaan. :/
#22 Sep 19 2007 at 9:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm gonna be all over this job like white on rice when it comes out. Just saying.
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my god, I wish I could rate you up more than once for this.
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#24 Sep 19 2007 at 9:14 PM Rating: Excellent
They manage to make the jobs look tasteful to people, and I have no doubt that SE will make that happen again.

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I would be in favor of some female only jobs and some male only jobs.
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#26 Sep 19 2007 at 10:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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I play a Galka and I want to level Dancer just to make everyone within a 10 mile radius weep openly.

Then I will dance for them.
#27 Sep 20 2007 at 2:42 AM Rating: Good
I'm a dancer in real life and I'm 100% straight man.
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#28 Sep 20 2007 at 3:00 AM Rating: Good
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Master ketrel wrote:
how are male characters supposed to play this??

Like this.
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#29 Sep 20 2007 at 3:50 AM Rating: Default
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#30 Sep 20 2007 at 4:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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#31 Sep 20 2007 at 4:21 AM Rating: Good
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[**** man you beat me to this title, but I was scared to post because it was empty and I thought it was a hacker playing in the forums[/quote]You're a sheep and you're proud of it.

Look at me! I'm scared of my sexuality but actually fear rate downs from people I've never met even more!

Seriously get a life and take some pride in yourself or do you need the validation?
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The One and Only RaggaTip wrote:
I'm a dancer in real life and I'm 100% straight man.
Why would you write this?

There are loads of people who dance that are straight - you don't need to be **** (or any other bs discriminatory title) to be good at dancing.

Is this going to be like,

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Oh, and I'm not ****.

for everyone who takes up the job?

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#33 Sep 20 2007 at 4:54 AM Rating: Decent
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You know, most NA gamers are just...sad.

"Ew, why play WHM and you're a guy? The AF means you're ****!" ~NA Release
"WTF? Bard is for **** people!" ~NA Release
"PUP AF makes you look ****." ~PUP Announcement, NA Event.

What is it with you NA and things that look unique making you "****"? Think of it this way:

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO PLAY DANCER OR INVITE THEM.

Why is that THE HARDEST concept for you people to grasp?

#34 Sep 20 2007 at 4:59 AM Rating: Good
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You know, most NA gamers are just...sad.

"Ew, why play WHM and you're a guy? The AF means you're ****!" ~NA Release
"WTF? Bard is for **** people!" ~NA Release
"PUP AF makes you look ****." ~PUP Announcement, NA Event.

What is it with you NA and things that look unique making you "****"? Think of it this way:

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO PLAY DANCER OR INVITE THEM.

Why is that THE HARDEST concept for you people to grasp?

Why do you assume that everyone saying that Dancer is ****, are North American? That's not less stereotypical than those that are saying it.
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Because, clearly, men don't dance.

Being that the female AF looks like a flamenco dancer, the male will probably look something like a male flamenco dancer. Think matador with billowing sleeves.
#36 Sep 20 2007 at 5:20 AM Rating: Good
Feclovien, the thread's title is: So ****.

ketrel wrote:
how are male characters supposed to play this??

can i know? the moment a guy plays this he will be branded **** and from that point on all **** people can hit on him freely and w/o fear for he is ****.


This is why I, as a male dancer, had to inform all these "dancer = ****" people that I'm straight. All the guys I know that dance are also straight.
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#37 Sep 20 2007 at 5:25 AM Rating: Good
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Oh noes! Anything but that! Being **** is the worst thing ever. How insulting :(
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i prefer dancer job to look **** "something like Pup af" rather then erotic

im already gonna have nightmares of peoples stupid dance macro and all the manthra saying their hawt and l33t and stupid people who gonna be saying "omfg mithra are so hawt when they dance they gonna make me bust a nut"

those are gonna #1 thing people will be thinking of dancer
and theirs no #2 thing because #1 is gonna be so big of a problem #2 will be forgoten in the first sec of the job coming out
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Uglysasquatch, Pie Eating Champion wrote:
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You know, most NA gamers are just...sad.

"Ew, why play WHM and you're a guy? The AF means you're ****!" ~NA Release
"WTF? Bard is for **** people!" ~NA Release
"PUP AF makes you look ****." ~PUP Announcement, NA Event.

What is it with you NA and things that look unique making you "****"? Think of it this way:

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO PLAY DANCER OR INVITE THEM.

Why is that THE HARDEST concept for you people to grasp?

Why do you assume that everyone saying that Dancer is ****, are North American? That's not less stereotypical than those that are saying it.


Or, you can do more research and think before you post.

Considering, most of the people, as I said, WERE indeed NA players, it's safe to say, there's some hidden standard with NA gamers where things will look "****" or will "not look ****".
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Theonehio wrote:
Or, you can do more research and think before you post.

Considering, most of the people, as I said, WERE indeed NA players, it's safe to say, there's some hidden standard with NA gamers where things will look "****" or will "not look ****".
And where is your research that shows that most of these people are NA? Regardless, your blanket statement does not hold up. There are a fair number of posters in this thread that are NA and defending dancer and not having to be **** to play it, including myself.
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Uglysasquatch, Pie Eating Champion wrote:
Theonehio wrote:
Or, you can do more research and think before you post.

Considering, most of the people, as I said, WERE indeed NA players, it's safe to say, there's some hidden standard with NA gamers where things will look "****" or will "not look ****".
And where is your research that shows that most of these people are NA? Regardless, your blanket statement does not hold up. There are a fair number of posters in this thread that are NA and defending dancer and not having to be **** to play it, including myself.


Exactly why I said, most, and not all, now did I? Again, think before you post.

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Ffs job isn't even out yet lol ppl already **** about it XD
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Exactly why I said, most, and not all, now did I? Again, think before you post.

In this thread, most support it. Actually, I would say its safe to say, the largest portion of this site is from NA and I don't think that atleast 51% of them are going around saying Dancer is ****. When a forum is dominated by one group, its going to seem like there's a larger amount of them bashing something, even though they dominate the other group that's supporting it and make up an equally dominate group in the pro side. I'm not failing to think before I post. you're failing to see the larger picture and being very narrow minded in your approach and stereotyping.
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Hmmm, I didn't think Pup looked ****, a bit weird, but not ****.
As for BRD AF, it doesn't look like anything to me, in fact, I wish it had more of a "Wandering Minstrel" type deal, but meh.
And I've never looked at WHM AF and thought "****", it's White and RED, not white and PINK, RED, like BLOOD. lol
People call DRG AF ****, I don't know why, where I come from, purple = pimp...
I don't have a problem with weird outfits, I'm a renaissance man. Not saying I go to renaissance fairs and dress up that way, but I do enjoy the culture and understand it, and don't freak out about it.
I have no problem with outfits, unless they look REALLY weird. Like an above post about a male dancer looking like a matadore, all cool, but you have those things coming out of your head... Or like, a man wearing a Speedo thong, it just... doesn't look right.
I like the way certain Japanese bands look when they look all effeminate and whatever, weird, but not TOO weird. Bishounen, I think they're called.
Anyway, I'm NA and Bisexual >.>
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**** Blacktuesday, that Clint avatar is bad ****. Maybe I can get an Angel Eyes and somebody else could get Tuco.
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ok, I have a deep belief that SE will hear the cries of the mass's...believing that Dancer will be ****, and in an effort to make another job more MANLY have decided to go ahead and disclose the next new job,it will be SO.....PIMP they will come with theyre own vehicle,to mow over the mobs, yes thats right here comes the Trash Man,with all new JA's like Circle of Repulsion, which is AOE disgust where all mobs start to puke HP, wait, theres more, JA Stinkfist, a POWERFUL H2H attack that leaves a smell that devours HP.

and last not but not least a whole new armor set that includes a dirty raggedy t-shirt, that boosts CHR, and dirty ripped up jeans, that not only look cool and smell bad, but boost Offence..

and because we know how important abbreviations are, i simplified that as well...we will be known as TRM.... HMMMM now THATS FUNNY...
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#47 Sep 20 2007 at 5:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Master ketrel wrote:
the moment a guy plays this he will be branded ****

Have you even looked at the war af or pup af ?
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I bet that the af for males is modified. They have to know how scared American males are of looking effeminate.


it's not really a question of being "scared". not every man in america is homophobic or scared of their feminine sides as you seem to be implying.

some of us just aren't into dressing up as chicks is all. even virtually. which is why i really doubt i'll be playing dancer, if i'm even playing ffxi at all when the expansion is released.

as far as Dancer AF looking "****" i think a couple people in this thread need to realize that the term "****" has become (for better or worse) part of our cultural discourse and does not always mean "homosexual" or "happy" anymore.

Edited, Sep 20th 2007 9:22pm by Llester
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You know, most NA gamers are just...sad.

"Ew, why play WHM and you're a guy? The AF means you're ****!" ~NA Release
"WTF? Bard is for **** people!" ~NA Release
"PUP AF makes you look ****." ~PUP Announcement, NA Event.

What is it with you NA and things that look unique making you "****"? Think of it this way:

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO PLAY DANCER OR INVITE THEM.

Why is that THE HARDEST concept for you people to grasp?



you're a fucking ****.

that was the most hypocritically ignorant post i've read in some time. grats on being a douche.
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Master ketrel wrote:
how are male characters supposed to play this??

can i know? the moment a guy plays this he will be branded **** and from that point on all **** people can hit on him freely and w/o fear for he is ****.


as long as i'm telling people what i think of them, you're also pretty retarded.

now it's one thing to have issue with a new job whose gear seems gender-biased. it understandably limits the choices of players who prefer their avatars to exist within the traditional boundaries of gender.

but the statement you just made is 100% classic homophobia and honestly makes you sound like you're afraid that deep down, maybe, just maybe, you like the ****.
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