Hello everyone. I just recently started playing again after a 5 year break. I met a girl and found out that she played, long story short I moved from Sylph to Phoenix and I'm getting back into Puppetmaster. I leveled it to 60 back when it came out and loved it. Got it to 99 in hopes of having some fun soloing stuff. Well my girlfriend wants me to finish leveling BST so we can duo. I was wondering if PUP BST can duo as well as 2 BSTs in Aby and Dynamis. I feel like that if done right I could bring more to the table than just another gimp BST.
What kind of PUP setup would I need to get the 2 BST rhythm with her. I have all subjob options and the majority of attachments save for the few really expensive BLM ones. I'm guessing that Valoredge would be the logical choice for that similar BST feel, but being able to buff and emergency heal with Soulsoother could be nice.
Any input would be fantastic, Especially the use of attachments for valoredge.. it has so many options but only so many slots XD.
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DamienSScott wrote:
Hello everyone. I just recently started playing again after a 5 year break. I met a girl and found out that she played, long story short I moved from Sylph to Phoenix and I'm getting back into Puppetmaster. I leveled it to 60 back when it came out and loved it. Got it to 99 in hopes of having some fun soloing stuff. Well my girlfriend wants me to finish leveling BST so we can duo. I was wondering if PUP BST can duo as well as 2 BSTs in Aby and Dynamis. I feel like that if done right I could bring more to the table than just another gimp BST.
What kind of PUP setup would I need to get the 2 BST rhythm with her. I have all subjob options and the majority of attachments save for the few really expensive BLM ones. I'm guessing that Valoredge would be the logical choice for that similar BST feel, but being able to buff and emergency heal with Soulsoother could be nice.
Any input would be fantastic, Especially the use of attachments for valoredge.. it has so many options but only so many slots XD.
What kind of PUP setup would I need to get the 2 BST rhythm with her. I have all subjob options and the majority of attachments save for the few really expensive BLM ones. I'm guessing that Valoredge would be the logical choice for that similar BST feel, but being able to buff and emergency heal with Soulsoother could be nice.
Any input would be fantastic, Especially the use of attachments for valoredge.. it has so many options but only so many slots XD.
Having duo'd a good bit with a BST friend of mine, just wanted to add a few points:
*I don't think i can stress this one enough-hate will be very tricky at times. Not a huge advocate of multiple situational gearsets beyond your standard TP, WS, and Nuking mainstays, but when hate invariably goes pear-shaped you will absolutely need a decent -dmg taken set. Trust me.
*In conjunction with the first point, you as a PUP will have to make sure your girl understands that Vent is NOT Snarl. My buddy likes to just jump into the fray knowing he can shed all his hate every time Snarl is up. We can do a similar trick on PUP, but it takes more than a single action and you can run into serious trouble if your BST partner doesn't get the difference between the two JAs.
*Soulsoother. That's the best auto to use imo with a BST partner. Helps to keep the two masters up while building very little hate on its own and can work as a handy hate-dump in a pinch because of that. VE can work fine as well, but depending on what you are doing you lose out on healing/buffs/stat cures and end up using way more meds(for you and your auto) just to shave what amounts to a little bit of time off of a kill.
*Know when to pull the **** back. And that will be self-explanatory when the situation arises.
Ultimately, PUP/BST duo is pretty nice, but you HAVE to keep the BST in the know of whats going on and vice-versa.
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Yea, pup/bst duoing works really well if both players know each other and understand that pup solo and bst solo are nearly opposite one another. It takes a good amount of practice and requires both players be competent with their jobs, but you can pull of some really crazy **** once you know what you're doing.
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Zelduh wrote:
PUP/THF for TH3 with sash and do WS proc mobs (with strobe and flashbulb, use Soulsoother) while your BST friend does JA procs as BST/DNC. I honestly don't like using valoredge, you need *some* way to heal yourself and role versal/repair doesn't really cut it, even with Strobe if your equipment is half decent there's no way he'll be able to keep hate so you'll be taking a beating, and links can be deadly. Puppets aren't really sturdy enough to just sick them onto some random mob and expect them to solo it like BST does so it's a bit different. If you're going /DNC and doing JA procs alongside him I suppose you could get away with it but I imagine you'd run out of mobs quickly (especially if there's any competition) so splitting as PUP/THF might help
Do not entirely agree. Solo PUP/THF in dyna. get between 170-200 currency on average, and using valoredge exclusivly.
Valoredge is capaple of tanking like a bst pet to some degree. Most of the time there are 2/3 mobs hitting my automaton.
Also as a master of hate, u should rarely get hit as a master. If proc'd kill. On a new pull if u have TP, WS, if no proc ventriloquy. After that you shouldn't be pulling hate from the mob. Specially not cause ur pet should be on it to get the proc.
Also links are not deadly but free pulls or easy to deagg. Again ventriloquy, or even have pet voke/flash it and deactivate will depop ur links. Also pull with ur pet if worried bout links... deactivate->deus ex and u only have the pulled mob on u, links again despawn.
Good regen idle, and good pet/master haste/tp set help. Also valoredge frame helps make killspeed faster.
For cures Canibal blade, repair + 1 min dues ex timer, should never have u without pet. And the role-reversal time is more then enough to repair->rr to 100% hp every 3 min should be plenty.
edit:
Missed dispel as a WS proc from pet.
Edited, Jul 20th 2012 6:26am by OOOFloW
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