Questions About puppetFollow

Stabilizer doesn't affect ranged acc.

As far as guides for which attachments to use, there are lots of variables.

Solo, group, raid?
AE mobs or non-ae mobs?
Pet tanking/master tanking?

SS head/body: generic setup
auto repair kit II (a must now, its equivalent of repair +2)
optic fiber
armor plate 2
barrage turbine
drum magazine
turbo charger
tension spring 2 (and 1 if fighting EvM or weaker)
attuner (if fighting IT)
inhibitor
coiler
dynamo


VE head/body - DD setup
auto repair kit 2
optic fiber
dynamo (swap this out for +ACC if you need it)
coiler
armor plate II
armor plate I
turbo charger
tension spring 2
inhibitor
tension spring 1 ( if EM or weaker)

blm head
auto repair kit 2 (if there is any risk your pet will get hit, otherwise replace it with ARK1)
optic fiber - only if you are using ARK1
mana tank 1
mana tank 2
heat sink (can give or take it depending on if you are using 3x ice DAD and -overload gear)
mana channeler
armor plate 2
armor plate 1
ice maker
loud speaker 2
loud speaker 1
scanner (if fighting mobs with odd resists/crabs with no spells but still has mp)
(dont really need mana booster if you you are DAD with 3x ice)

whm head
vivi valve
optic fiber
damage guage
auto repair kit 1
mana kit 2
condenser
armor plate 2
armor plate 1
turbo charger




These are just general sets. There are surely times when you would use some over others. Any time a mob has magic ae you will really want mana jammers. Also for SS you will probably want to use VE head and SS body for increased melee and thus more often WS.



Edited, Dec 28th 2011 10:26pm by dustinfoley

Edited, Dec 30th 2011 6:58am by dustinfoley

Condenser isn't necessary anymore, really. Assuming neck, hands and body for maneuvers, 3xIce isn't a problem even doing it just after activate, and another 3xIce without deactivate for a second nuke isn't too risky.

Heatsink is now in my opinion a much better option. You won't need to put an initial water, and it's a static reduction to burden even with 0 maneuvers (I think... I know you did the test not too long ago).

You are right i ment heat sink, not condenser and ill go correct that, but the argument still stands.

If a pup is asking which attachments to use, I generally assume that they:
1) dont have +2 body
2) dont have macros for af hands/buffons collar
3) still have some issues with overload

Fair assumptions, you're right. Still, mentioning what's going to change as they level is important, too.

Edited, Dec 30th 2011 2:32pm by TaimMeich

Except for career pups, we dont even need cooldown lol. I know, that the only time i even used it was to test it out before it went live. Now with KKK 95 on the test server, there is really no reason a career pup would really need it.

Even with 3x ice, you can DAD after each nuke and never over load. Now that its gonna be 45s minimum between nukes, you might as well DAD.

Hey guys, thought I'd ask quickly about macroing in buffoons and hands when using manuevers. I have the heat sink on my auto but I find even with this, Buffon and hands I still overload after activating. Usually I allow sometime for initial burden but when I get over eager at boosting those nukes my auto craps out on me. (I don't have kkk or body) I was wondering if I'm not allowing enough time in /wait lines and unequiping those overloar reducing items too quick.

I'm not logged in but here's a rough idea of the macro I have:

Equip neck "Buffon collar +1"
Equip hands "pantin dastanas"
Pet xxxxx maneuver
Wait 1
Equip neck "cirque collar"
Equip hands "cirque hands +1"

Something like that :/
does that seem ok? Am I just being unlucky with timing? do I need the body before I can jump on the macros? Did that freekin Galka build me a dud robot?
Ty :)

Actually i think jinte posted a while ago that for the first 1 minute after activate, burden doesn't decrease. So if you are going to wait you have to wait at least 1 minute for burden to start decreasing.



Also, go old school and use the condenser and go water - ice - ice - ice.

Also you can try to use the new wait mechanic and add in an extra wait:
equip 1 neck
equip 2 hands; wait 1
pet maneuver ; wait 1
equip 1-tp neck
equip 2-tp hands

this might slow you down a bit more, but if you have a high lag situation (slow pc, dsl, dial up) then it will make sure you have everything equipped before it tries to use the JA.

Basic overload stuff:

Naked, with no prebuilt burden; 3rd maneuver will allow for overload
with af gloves, buffoon's collar, or heat sink alone; 4th maneuver will allow overload
with gloves/collar and int (however much you give with af gloves, x2 +1, so at 90-99, 17) > puppet values, you can safely do 2 maneuvers, and the chances of overload on the third are pretty slim, even with activate burden. If you're planning on nuking twice or more before you deactivate, though, you're still safer to start with a water maneuver.

My usual ADRD nuking (ADRD since we need to include retrieve now in order to avoid hate generation)
Activate ->
wait 15-20 seconds
between 0:35 and 0:45 on deactivate's recast; Water maneuver
wait 10 -> ice
wait 10 -> ice
wait 10 -> ice
deploy anywhere after ice #2 that allows you to get off ice #3 before the nuke finishes, but also allows the nuke to finish at least 1 second after deactivate's timer is up

If I'm single nuking it, I can usually pretty safely drop the water maneuvers, but there is still some potential to overload on the third maneuver if you don't have AF3+1 body+heatsink, or af3+2 body alone. My testing suggests that both cirque farsetto +1 and heatsink with no active maneuvers are the same effect as buffoon's collar or af gloves alone, and cirque farsetto +2 is the same as gloves/collar together. I haven't done much testing with heatsink and multiple maneuvers, since it's rather impractical to use more than 1 water maneuver to reduce overload rate, but I would be fairly confident in a guess that 1 water maneuver increases the rate to the same as farsetto +2.

Worst case scenario, you forgo the water maneuver, overload on your third ice, hit cooldown, then reapply them with a water maneuver.

Best case scenario, kenkonken, and you just keep belting them out because ice maker clearing the maneuvers will help with burden decay. Hit cooldown around your 4th set of triple ice and you should be able to get off 3-4 more sets safely.

my testing suggests that, while x maneuver is active, x maneuver's burden will not decay (decaying burden decays each tick (every 3 seconds)), so in the time between ice maker consuming three maneuvers and putting up your next ice maneuver, your burden can decay, thus somewhat helping overload rate.