PUP h2h weaponFollow

Ok im working twords the empy for pup but i dont know wtf to use in the mean time i just came back from a 2 year break and busting my butt to get the +2 af .. damn pink boots i want to nurn them ... but anyway whats the best h2h aside from empy to get to hold me over? im useing the

Furor Cesti
(Hand-to-Hand) All Races
DMG: +22 Delay: +30 STR +2
"Subtle Blow" +8
Lv. 90 MNK / PUP

but im not sure anymore tbh so any help would be awesome and WS set would be sweet if anyone has a good one for pummel and smite for the future ^^


Thanks in advance

Ghost ~

See this post in a similar thread.

Fire will be best, Ice are quickest to make, and Burats are an excellent, very easy/quick-to-get option (probably best reward for least amount of time).

Also, I do not recommend those Ursine Claws. They feed lots of tp and are too much work to get.

This is obviously the main point. The OP wants something quick, easy, and of decent quality. Thus, my suggestions (Fire fangs being the least quick to obtain). Your suggestion is to spend a buuuunch of time making something that isn't spectacular enough for the time you put into it (as a starting weapon). Those are a poor man's Veres.

Now before you throw out more accusations, know that I have a pair of OA4 claws. I know from experience that they add lots of tp, and you gain lots of tp in return. Have you ever fought an NM with weapons like this? Your ls mates and tanks don't generally like you hitting that much for tp, even if you are the tank (I use Fire or Wind claws for tanking).

If you want quick tp from your weapon (for abyssea procs, dyna procs, etc), make OA4X; they are tons of fun to play with. If you want high damage, make Fire claws, (maybe Revenant Fists), or Veres.

This is exactly correct. Burattinaios may not be god tier any more since the regain was changed from 10tp to 1tp, but they're still an excellent 90cap weapon and far faster to obtain than doing the Fire path. I would agree that right now they're best reward for least about of time, and if you're confident you will get Vereth/Rev Fists, they'll be a good piece to hold you over.

Note that if new trials are added in the 95cap update, there's a good chance the magian weapons will improve more and Burts will lag behind. As for the non-empy magian weapons, just like Selka says, Fire are best, Ice (pet MAB+) are good and fast to make, and you can get some situational use out of Wind (evasion) and Earth (pet -PDT). The Ice and Earth weapons are worth a special note since they would still be situationally useful even if you had an empy weapon - if you run into a situation where you're solely focused on pet nuking (ice claws) or pet tanking (earth claws), might still want to pull them out.

The WS path Barracudas +2 (WS DMG+10% ones) are decent too, and I'll be very interested to see what the next step is for those. I wouldn't count them out as a possible contender with good enough additional trials. They aren't exactly quick to make though.



This is definitely a good Stringing Pummel set, but a few tweaks to improve would be:
- Replace Merman's with Kemas or Aesir
- Replace Pantin with Vellaunus'
- Epona's/Spiral is actually the best SP ring combo - you gain VIT+5 (a strong WS mod) from Spiral in exchange for giving up +5 DEX/STP/Subtle Blow from Rajas. A worthwhile trade. Of course, Rajas/Epona is still the ideal TP pair.

Edited, Aug 25th 2011 7:04pm by Anza

I'm not going to throw you any accuations, rest assured. I actually owned the OA4 before swapping them out for the current pair I possess at the moment and I had a lot of fun playing with them. Unfortunatley, the dmg was very low, compared to what I'm using now. My logic (again based on the fact I LOVE multi-hit weapons) was to re-do the path... and it WAS painful but do-able solo... and acquire a higher dps weapon that also allowed for multi-hit. As I previously posted, this weapon does significantly higher dmg than the oA4 but does not swing nearly as much... so the tp gain on the oA4 is much much higher than the double attack +10, I made a great choice with this change... and just in time for a possible upgrade with the late Sept. version update.

The point is if you like multi-hit, go with Ursine Claws +30, double attack +10, if you don't care for that, choose other alternatives...simple as that.

Plus, you can get a T3 VNM pop and then shout for people who need it - often people after the souls will even pay you to pop it (or just give em the souls in exchange to the H2H going to you). Upgrading a T1 is simple to solo (go to Visions zones), T2 Chione isn't a bad fight and you can get people who need +1 seals to help.

Once you get a T3 pop, just reserve the H2H weapon for yourself and pop during a time when you have a good chance of blue proc.

Unfortunately, I haven't spent a LOT of time on the test server but I did take a look at the weapon path of the Double attack (since I made one not too long ago and was in a hurry)...the TotM path for the Ursine Claws +2, Dmg +30, Dbl Attck +10 Delay +86 only added +3 (no change to delay or double attck), required 200 silver mirrors...(an item to be added with the update)... that's all I know for now.

Just an FYI...