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#1 May 09 2011 at 9:26 PM Rating: Good
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Can't say what skill level you need, but I tested it out in Abyssea just now.

With VV, RR, MC, I'm getting 950-1300 average.

But the best part is: Stringing Pummel <> String Shedder = Darkness.

Going to test Armor Shatterer now...
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#2 May 09 2011 at 9:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm just going to assume it's 300. Still upset that Burts is 1 tp. It's the same as the bst axe from level 77.

Hopefully Armor Shatterer is awesome.
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#3 May 09 2011 at 9:34 PM Rating: Good
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Quick, someone test String Ripper > String Ripper!
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#4 May 09 2011 at 9:35 PM Rating: Good
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Armor Shatterer was averaging 700 with the same Atma listed above. Probably gets higher damage with proper atma. And no visible SC, at least nothing level 3.

Also, bug found. Puppet's killshots (not WS kill shot) is giving ruby lights.
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#5 May 09 2011 at 9:41 PM Rating: Good
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Copy from other thread I posted in. This one wasn't up when I started. =X

Went to Abyssea Mis. Valoredge with 328 melee skill (took off +2 pants) has String Shredder.
Fought an EP Peapuk. First WS was at 100%TP with VV/RR/GH, Spring 1 and 2. Did 1493 with no maneuvers.

Second was at 150 TP, same set, 1773

Going to switch to Sharpshot now.

Sharpshot with 291 Ranged used Armor Piercer with no maneuvers. Put on +2 pants, still no new WS at 301. These new WS are probably around 305-325.

Tested String SHredder Maneuver. Kept up a Light and cycled through all the other maneuvers. Light+Thunder trigger new WS.
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#6 May 09 2011 at 11:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Copy from other thread I posted in. This one wasn't up when I started. =X

Went to Abyssea Mis. Valoredge with 328 melee skill (took off +2 pants) has String Shredder.
Fought an EP Peapuk. First WS was at 100%TP with VV/RR/GH, Spring 1 and 2. Did 1493 with no maneuvers.

Second was at 150 TP, same set, 1773

Going to switch to Sharpshot now.

Sharpshot with 291 Ranged used Armor Piercer with no maneuvers. Put on +2 pants, still no new WS at 301. These new WS are probably around 305-325.

Tested String SHredder Maneuver. Kept up a Light and cycled through all the other maneuvers. Light+Thunder trigger new WS.



Tested. Thunder is the trigger. It replaces string clipper on prioty list.

Confirmed Armor shatter Drag, Ripper Distortion.

Anomaly: Despite the fact both these skill should chain with Sp if those are the As they aren't. I Just spent the better part of an hour trying to figure out if these can do level 3(Double light or dark) and haven't been able to. Not sure if quen timing it wrong or inhibator glitched with the new ws data. Right now it looks like the later.
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#7 May 10 2011 at 12:33 AM Rating: Good
Using VE to speed along NPC limit break trial and i'm liking this.

Heat capacitor is very nice and even just keeping on fire man up is boosting Klaxon's TP gain nicely. String Shredder is doing nice consistent dmg on EPs in thickets, between 600 and 900 with spikes 1200+. Cna't wait to try it in Abyssea with Atma.

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Also String Shredder > Stringing Pummel is looking to be Darkness. Unless NPC messing us up also its really late
atm and may have missed a WS from her.


All in all liking this.
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#8 May 10 2011 at 12:36 AM Rating: Good
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spiritreaverdiablos the Mundane wrote:


Also String Shredder > Stringing Pummel is looking to be Darkness. Unless NPC messing us up also its really late
atm and may have missed a WS from her.




Can confirm it. 2.5k String Shredder > 3.1k Stringing Pummel > 3.1k Darkness
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#9 May 10 2011 at 1:03 AM Rating: Good
Kametame wrote:
spiritreaverdiablos the Mundane wrote:


Also String Shredder > Stringing Pummel is looking to be Darkness. Unless NPC messing us up also its really late
atm and may have missed a WS from her.




Can confirm it. 2.5k String Shredder > 3.1k Stringing Pummel > 3.1k Darkness

Thanks for the confirmation. Was plowing through mobs for trial and too tired to actually try for SCs atm lol.
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#10 May 10 2011 at 2:24 AM Rating: Excellent
how did you got a 2.5k string shreder? :O highest i've seen is 1700 or so.
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#11 May 10 2011 at 2:38 AM Rating: Good
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KaynofTitan wrote:
how did you got a 2.5k string shreder? :O highest i've seen is 1700 or so.

It was an outlier, Triple Attack plus crits maybe?
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#12 May 10 2011 at 9:10 AM Rating: Good
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Great news!!!! Um I was trolling in abyssea with VVRRSS on... Tsukushi did shredder so then I pummeled... 3.1k shredder>5.9k pummel (something happened during the update and pummel is now retardedly stronger)> a5.9k darkness, so about 15k dmg sc... Maybe SE doesn't totally hate us.
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#13 May 10 2011 at 9:19 AM Rating: Good
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Great news!!!! Um I was trolling in abyssea with VVRRSS on... Tsukushi did shredder so then I pummeled... 3.1k shredder>5.9k pummel (something happened during the update and pummel is now retardedly stronger)> a5.9k darkness, so about 15k dmg sc... Maybe SE doesn't totally hate us.

Very nice, what mobs were you fighting?
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spiritreaverdiablos the Mundane wrote:
Camwin wrote:
Great news!!!! Um I was trolling in abyssea with VVRRSS on... Tsukushi did shredder so then I pummeled... 3.1k shredder>5.9k pummel (something happened during the update and pummel is now retardedly stronger)> a5.9k darkness, so about 15k dmg sc... Maybe SE doesn't totally hate us.

Very nice, what mobs were you fighting?


Whatever it was it had to have at least 9k in HP...
#15 May 10 2011 at 10:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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spiritreaverdiablos the Mundane wrote:
Camwin wrote:
Great news!!!! Um I was trolling in abyssea with VVRRSS on... Tsukushi did shredder so then I pummeled... 3.1k shredder>5.9k pummel (something happened during the update and pummel is now retardedly stronger)> a5.9k darkness, so about 15k dmg sc... Maybe SE doesn't totally hate us.

Very nice, what mobs were you fighting?


Whatever it was it had to have at least 9k in HP...

Obviously.

But i asked because i wanted to know if Camwin was fighting something with strength/weakness/neutral to HTH and slashing type dmg.

Kinda hard to get that info from how much dmg was done when said dmg isn't put into any context isn't it?
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#16 May 10 2011 at 11:54 AM Rating: Good
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Some caps including crit hits got lifted!
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#17 May 10 2011 at 12:51 PM Rating: Good
So can anyone confirm that SP is doing more damage?
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#18 May 10 2011 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
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After skilling up...(RNG was at 333 but melee was only 307) I can confirm that--at least for the melee WS, though I'm use they're the same--You get the WS at 324 skill. I thoguht it'd be 325 or 330 but that works. Didn't see it posted anywhere so I figured I'd post it.


EDIT: http://www.mediafire.com/?qcwss118zxu3bj5
Here's confirmation that hitting 324 made him get the WS, incase someone wants that proof. I was using +1 pants and full melee merits, so 309 + 15 = 324

Edited, May 10th 2011 1:50pm by Darknightleo

Edited, May 10th 2011 1:51pm by Darknightleo
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#19 May 10 2011 at 1:58 PM Rating: Good
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#20 May 10 2011 at 2:16 PM Rating: Good
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324 skill makes perfect sense, its the skill cap for level 85 A-.

If i ahve time tonight ill determine the WSC and try to figure out the skillchain properties.

I know ripper is distortion at minimum:
Ripper -> Pummel = darkness.


To confirm it,
VS -> ripper should give distortion
ripper -> ascetics should give fusion

I havent had a chance to test the SS one.
#21 May 10 2011 at 2:24 PM Rating: Good
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My melee is 323, not doing new WS

Edit; leveled up, it is indeed 324 for String Shredder

Edited, May 10th 2011 5:00pm by MrDarKknight
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MrDarKknight wrote:
My melee is 323, not doing new WS


Good to know... looks like we can narrow this down pretty soon.

I'm capped on melee skill, but without Cirque+1 legs I am at 324 on ranged... going out right now to test.

EDIT: Confirmed Armor Shatterer with 324 automaton ranged skill. And my first attempt... MISSED with 1 Wind Maneuver and Scope, on a Sylvestre in Buburimu >.<

Edited, May 10th 2011 4:44pm by Anza
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#23 May 10 2011 at 3:20 PM Rating: Good
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Coastal colibri and abyssea Mis. And no they don't have to have at least that much HP since The chain will do what your pummel does.

And crit dmg cap is higher as well as vit mods been changed a bit. My 3.5k average is now 4.5k. With the occasional 6 spike.
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Camwin wrote:
Coastal colibri and abyssea Mis. And no they don't have to have at least that much HP since The chain will do what your pummel does.

And crit dmg cap is higher as well as vit mods been changed a bit. My 3.5k average is now 4.5k. With the occasional 6 spike.

I know this probably isn't the time and place but...gear/atma set up? ^^;
I can only get about 3k-4k average on my pummels ><; 4k if i'm lucky.
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#25 May 10 2011 at 3:35 PM Rating: Good
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For ws I was using full +2,
Rings: rajas, spiral
Earrings: brutal, kemas
Neck: agasayas
Belt: beir
Back: cavaros
H2h: burts ( ; ;)

Another idea, because this still ain't making sense... +2 procs on ws, just an idea but these ridiculous spikes are ridiculous.
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#26 May 10 2011 at 4:49 PM Rating: Good
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I hate to turn our attention away from how mind-blowingly awesome String Shredder is, but have we found out anything about Armor Shatterer's SC properties, if it has any?
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