Shikkoku/Ginhaku/Shinku Hands/BodyFollow

So as you all know, there was alot of speculation going around since the introduction of Synergy and these new armor sets - particularly the Body and Hands. Since then, I know theres dozens of people who have completed those 2 pieces in particular, but I don't recall seeing any findings on the "Increases critical hit damage" on the Body/Hands. Has anybody done any testing on how much of an enhancement it is? If it's a tangable amount (I would imagine even 3-4% per piece), it could well possibly be on the better side of our gear options for those slots.

i have both the hands and body, while its really hard to say exactly on mobs, but on campaign forts, without the 2 pieces i could get pummel up to about 120, with them i reached 141.

its not definate, but there is a nice increase. oh and i went to dynamis last night and i got pummel to 1050ish, a huge increase since before i couldnt ever break 500. but on top of shikkoku, i have about 12 extra h2h points from the last time i was there

my thf is level 1.. but i suppose i could work on it for the sake of comparison.

but you cant SA multi hit WSs on level 1 mobs because they wont survive the first hit. but i guess you could still get a percent from that data

this is true. unless someone else has these 2 pieces of gear and want to do the test, i could level it i suppose


EDIT: yay scholar!

alright thf is level 15, i'll do some tests over the weekend. i was thinking, 100 sample size with no +crit, 1 piece of +crit and then both

Edited, Apr 2nd 2010 7:17pm by AsashinoTsuki

Meh you could do the test without kparser, just do it the old school way (Pen and paper!).

To be honest I'd be happy with even 10 samples of each (Neither piece equipped/hands/body/both), at any rate we would have more concrete evidence from that alone than anything I've seen on the net.

That's the whole point. You kill it with the first hit 100% of the time and thus remove variables from the equation, making the damage far easier to evaluate.

alright, thanks

yeah the little bit of testing i did was just a single hit. i'll probably work on this when i wake up or something

Did anyone manage to do the testing on this yet?

kparser collects your average, low and hi critical damage

i havent had a chance to test

personally i was gonna do 100 each

My results

 
         Without gloves      With Gloves   Increase 
 
Range:       42                 42 
Median:      241                249           ~3.3% 
Mode:        244                253           ~3.6% 
Average:     240.86             243.12        ~1% 
Lowest:      213                219           ~2.8% 
Highest:     255                261           ~2.3% 
 
Total data:  90                 87

Target: Boreal Hound

There was an anomaly in the without gloves data I took out. According to the parse I scored a 276 critical. This was way out of the range of the other numbers produce and I never beat it with the gloves equipped. I figured this was due to a Dia that didn't wear off before I engaged or a spike with the gloves still on.(Sometimes pet would cast dia. I would turn around and wait for about 2 minutes to make sure it stop taking effect.)

I'll have another go at it after I cap h2h skill then. I figured boreal hound be a good target since he has a fixed level and respawns quickly. Any suggestions or should I annoy negative level monsters next time and get around 100 crits worth of data?

Minor necro, was there anymore testing done on this set of gear?

I can go test the body later before sky

Laxedrane got busy with other goals and rl. but if it all that important to everyone ill give hands another go and get data for body. Just felt like no one cared so I felt like, why continue the research haha.(I also have the body now)

Unfortunately it looks like the gloves are probably going to end up being a side~down grade from enkidu's depending on what you're fighting.

A 3% increase in crit damage...likely not critting more than half hits gives you a ~1.5% total damage (and 1 less str). Realistically I'm guessing crit range is significantly lower than 50%.

Compare this to enkidu's that would be giving you 4 more dex, which could push you up to 4% more crit rate depending on what your previous gear was (standard dDex is already around 40) and it would for sure be giving you an fstr (25% more frequency). So 2-4% crit chance given 6 chances to crit would increase the likelihood of another crit by around 8-24%, which would give you ~double damage for a total increase of ~15% per cirt, or 2-3% on average.

If you're fighting things where you can hit 50 dDex easier/naturally, these would definitely be an option for higher potential, however, in most situations where you won't and personally I would lean towards enkidu's 1str, 4dex, and 2acc.