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At level 75, I'm getting +7 per stat in their respective maneuver

I'm getting +6 per maneuver rather than +7....what's causing the slight difference?

*edit* - NVM it's AF Gloves

Edited, Mar 23rd 2010 1:15am by YeagertheBearded

it's high 1600's for base at 75, near 2k with all the +hp gear

valor still taking more damage than me it seems. but only toyed around with it so far

Manatank 1:
1 dark maneuver: 2 mp/tick
2: 4mp/tick
3: 7mp/tick

MT II:
1: 4mp/tick
2: 7mp/tick
3: 9mp/tick

Edited, Mar 23rd 2010 1:41am by Jinte

Edited, Mar 23rd 2010 1:44am by Jinte

New nuke record on tundra tiger with burn on mob, abs-int used, and 3 ice maneuvers with dual loudspeakers, mana channeler, optic fiber, and ice maker~

2212 damage without day/weather bonus or MB!

Previous best under same conditions~ 2112 damage.

Freaking awesome, I love this update already. <3

wait, how are we all getting such different numbers at 75? are they frame based? (testing now)

double up on them, 26hp/tick. Oil+2 says what?

soulsoother is casting regen 3 on me regularly

damage above c5 trigger, and light maneuver on (casted bio2 with no maneuvers)

Edited, Mar 23rd 2010 2:46am by AsashinoTsuki

jeez how much would that have normally done? and how much of it is because of the extra int?

from ffxiah:



Ppl seem to rly get different numbers. There are some unknown factors behind this definetly. Besides 17mp/tick... where can i toss my economizer?




Edited, Mar 23rd 2010 3:02am by Bannkreis

I PMed the guy posting it. He confirms the 10 mp/tick is with optic fiber, so 9mp/tick is right.

It might be that it's based on a % of the automatons max HP/MP, (or base max HP/MP) The reason I say this is because I got 10/18/30 hp a tic regen with dual kits on valoredge with no optic fiber equipped, yet only 9/15/24 hp a tic with soulsoother with dual kits AND Optic fiber.

Also, I could have sworn I saw VE recover 30 HP a tic twice after a few tics of HP, further suggesting that it's based on max HP, or base max HP.

Gonna test on my level 1 pup mule.

Ok, just did a quick check, too lazy to do full results with so many exciting things to look at atm. o-o But I was right, it isn't the same. I got 2/3/probably 4 but oni only has 40 hp at level 1 so too hard to test, with harliquin and only auto repair kit II equipped.

It's definitely based on level, max HP of frame, or probably a mixture of the two, but I'm too afraid ill mess the formula up. XD

Edited, Mar 23rd 2010 12:24am by PsionofPhoenix

I'd look into it myself but oops I guess I can't.

Did they change the priority of drain/aspir and elemental spell for Spiritreaver Head?

And Harlequin Automaton was changed or not?

Getting 5 mp/tic with one dark maneuver with just mana tank II on soulsoother. Max MP is 1025 (boosted by animator +1). PUP in the same party is only getting 4 mp/tic with the same setup, but his auto's max MP is only 965.

By the by, holy god the Boyahda Tree is f*cking packed with PUPs. I'm in a 4 PUP skillup pt, there's another PUP skillup pt wandering around as well, and a half dozen solo PUPs as well.

Edited, Mar 23rd 2010 6:44am by bsphil

I tested drain/aspir and didn't see a change last night, unfortunately

Would love to oblige, but SE playing with our emotions atm. There is an emergency maintainance going on...but for us that didn't know that, they forgot to turn off the "Play" button in PoL.

I didn't try AoE damage. But last night before I finally crashed (Valefor, so server went back alive at 3 in the mornin) I ran out to Keep S to see if Shadow Lord was running around. Saw a VT+ Orc and I was like, "Wonder how hard that'd hit Sancho..." So I put on both APs, Steam Jacket, Optic. After about three hits with three Earth up, Sancho was getting hit for 100-120 with crits pushing 200-230. He was also laying into it with ~130 per swing.

From what little I've played with it. Definitely not the tank puppet we wanted, but they can take a beating now.

I rank this with how aspir, drain, and the -na work now. I was happy with regen 3 as it was, there was nothing wrong with it.

Quick everyone complain the automatons AI was messed up by the update to a GM and we will have emergency maintenance. Yes I am serious too.

Had a puppet burn, out in Bhaflau Thickets this afternoon on Slyph.

Went as expected, two Pup/Dnc's, two /Wars, and a JP /nin, and one /whm. Highest we ever got was Chain 6 on NQ Colibri at a 61 sync. Daze with Flame holder went up significantly, we were getting about +6 with AF per manuver, which is about +3 Attack per one +9 with all three up (Though you'll only get Arcballista which did Daze's average damage.) My Daze usually does about 450-600 depending on the level sync and manuvers, Pup tank couldn't keep hate so we changed setups. Regular shots that used to hit for 110 now hit for 143 with a Thunder/Fire/Wind rotation. The lack of Racc being factored into range makes the Drum Magazine all the more useless while making the -Enmity pieces even more viable.

I don't think we can go to East Ronfaure S anymore, lol.

The important thing here is the latter puppetry setups 3 Souls, 2 Shots, and a VE (Me.) Valoredge did surprisingly well with just Target Marker/ Coiler/ Stablizer, Strobe or Flame holder / Attuner/ and Tension Spring II. Its Ws damage as mediocre, max being 300+ on Cannibal blade and one really sexy 336 Chimera Ripper but on average, Mashi swung for 55-60+ without any fire manuvers, even though I wasn't hitting it that hard. WS damage was usually 100.

With the strobe on, it made a good backup tank to the Pup/War that was designated to tank. It kept the hate off the Sharpshots, and the Hammerill did a good job with shield bash and enmity. As he swung for more damage, and double attacked more often, constantly provoking, it was able to tank every other to every two fights for the full duration and could Canibal blade its health back to about 80% with el-cheapo oil, and some lights.

Auto-Repair Kits I and II respectively have become "The SHIIITTE" so I imagine not having them anymore would be less then stellar and should be mandated with every new Pup. When I used sharpshot, it'd just for at least 1/9th of its bar every few seconds with just two light manuvers up and ARKII. With a fully capped Melee auto making the slightly more average Pup in our group switch to his VE frame later on as well, I'd say SE did a pretty good job.

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I also spent a few hours skilling up in Boyhda Tree, nothing too remarkable though. 6 Pups and a helper all doing Stringing Pummel and the like on Steelshells. My Pup isn't 75, so I couldn't test it myself but most of the ones in the Pt seemed relatively impressed with the buffs to H2h as they got more and more capped.

Spiritweaver and Soulsoother respectively did... about exactly the same. Magic isn't really my forte as pup. I've got Cure V, but none of the luxury nuking equipment, just slightly above the basics. Still both frames were eating Cursed Sphere, and Bubbleshower pretty good. Not the same as me, but strangely alittle better in some regards. I'd tell you I s#@t a brick, but I didn't. AoE will still wipe your puppet, thats never going to change with pet jobs.

One Pup said: "Even at B+ we're still really good. Though this job/game has alot of elitism, its really going to show now at endgame. SE made us about as good with our fists, as a Dnc is with its dagger. Dnc gets flak for not being really all that useful or accurate at endgame, but merely passable. But Dnc does not have an Automaton like mine."

I've got a few papers to write, but when I play again I'll keep you guys posted on the new Slyph Pup escapades.

Edited, Mar 23rd 2010 6:28pm by TheLordOfTheSandwhich

One Fire/Dark/Thunder, Inhibitor, TSII, Flame Holder, 300TP, Armor Piercer 5/5 Optimization 5/5 Marksmanship (please don't get distracted, criticize me on this, and miss my point completely) on a EP Biddybug . . .

. . . 1800 Damage

He feels his automaton's dmg potential has been raised and he wanted to share his personal observation. As this is an open testing thread after a rather decent buff to our lil buddies, valid post imo.

Good stuff Jayheart!