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#1 Jan 11 2012 at 10:06 PM Rating: Good
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So I've been doing a lot of dreamworld dyna duo/trio on COR/DNC recently for relic+2 trial plus getting some gil. I mostly do DC mobs on JA proc time, since they drop more coins/forgotten/EXP, and often less competition(except valkrum, all the DC camp was packed because everyone want to upgrade THF hands)


Personally I found this job very good for dyna duo/trio, in fact I'd rate it one of the better dyna lowman job. Of course nothing beats BST solo in terms of currency farm, and THF or DNC/THF is irreplaceable for TH. But there are a couple of advantages this job has. Movement speed roll is good for moving from camp to camp, especially in bubu where camps are far apart. QD can sleep the links, and sometimes having links attacking ppl will slow down the killing speed A LOT. QD can also proc while you try to sleep the links, with QD COR has some extra proc to use for JA trigger. 2 TP rolls means you'd have a lot of TPs for WS/waltz and really fast kill. You can also make SC with other DDs to kill faster. Also WF with wizards roll can one shot TE statue, just enter, do a regain, go to TE, do a Wizard, fire WF from afar and statue dead.

If you don't have a WHM mule to cure/haste(which I don't) it's also nice build an evasion set and get an evasion dominion Ops dagger for it. Can also buy Oynos knife for extra haste. Evasion set is very good for this sort of things, as those DC mobs often hit very hard when many mobs are hitting at once. Just macro it in when you got hate/slept mob awake/link and it can save some pain in the *** to stay alive. The good thing about COR is, quite a lot of TP came from roll/QD, so even in full evasion set you don't lose too much dmg.(but still TP in haste if nothing's hitting you)

With a WHM mule for haste/cure, it's probably the best to just full time haste set meleeing and use a higher dmg dagger like Qilin dagger or twilight.

WF is a decent WS in dyna, about 1.5k~2.2k depending on the mob and day. If you have QD recharge up and not having links, you can also do fire shot before it. Leaden salute is also decent, with anrin obi and double dark weather, just not as good as WF.

Also it'd be nice to keep random deal and 2hr charge up for emergency, sometimes there's risk of linking/aggroing too many, using random deal and 2hr to recharge quick draw can save lives.

The most important aspect to kill fast is to kill one mob at a time, and everyone has to attack the same mob. Sometimes when I do it with some ppl(especially BST and THF, who think they can hold many mobs) they just like to switch target to other linked/slept mobs and have many mobs on them. That's just a waste of TP and entire pt ended up killing slower.
Pull, sleep the extra link if there's any, everyone proc the red one, kill ASAP with skill chain after proc, kill the next one. If there's no link after pull, use fire shot to boost WF dmg.

In qufim the only camp is pretty much near Jeuno, also Qufim has smaller camp, so if there's competition you probably won't get many coins. However there are not much walking around when time change, so if there are no competition it's possible to get the most out of it.

Valkurm is the worst zone, since it's pretty much always packed. The best mobs are Hippo/Funguar/treant. If those camps are packed then you'd have to deal with other mobs like sheep/fly/fly traps which either has sleep or terrible AoE. Manti isn't bad for other DDs, but WF only do half dmg on them, so it's not so good for COR. However if Valkurm isn't packed, I'd say this is the most profitable zone just because forgotten for hands +2 sells fast and cost a lot.

Bubu is the easiest zone, mostly because not alot of ppl doing DC mobs in bubu, and there are 2 camps for each type with easy mobs. The down side is this zone has a LOT of walking around, and you'd lose 1~2 game hours just by moving camp everytime.

The best result I got is pt with COR THF DD(SAM or MNK), 402 coins, 33 forgotten and 8k EXP without EXP band/roll(again, save TP/regain roll>EXP roll) in bubu(again, possible that qufim can get more). Considering forgotten goes for 50k~100k on my server, it's not too shabby IMO. All mobs are dead in seconds after proc, so it's really the pulling speed that matters, your THF has to be very good at timing pulls to keep the mob coming and pool filled up with coins/forgottens.

I also got 240 coins + 20 forgotten when duoing with THF, killing speed is slightly slower without a third DD, but acceptable.

Any pt size bigger than 4 doesn't give much good result, due to camp being too small, and things gets messy with more ppl and so on.

I haven't try solo EP ones, shouldn't be too much of a trouble with an evasion TP set, just that this job has no TH makes it a bit of a subpar choice compare with THF/DNC, BST/DNC or DNC/THF for solo.





Edited, Jan 11th 2012 11:11pm by Afania

Edited, Jan 11th 2012 11:16pm by Afania
#2 Jan 12 2012 at 10:10 AM Rating: Decent
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I thought Forgotten items didn't fall if you had Subjob unlocked. Must have misheard somewhere. That's good to know.

What mobs did you target in Quifm (since they drop forgotten items for legs in that zone)?
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#3 Jan 13 2012 at 1:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Dartagnann wrote:
I thought Forgotten items didn't fall if you had Subjob unlocked. Must have misheard somewhere. That's good to know.

What mobs did you target in Quifm (since they drop forgotten items for legs in that zone)?




If you lock your SJ, there's a chance to proc white for 100. However since the chance is really low, most of the players don't lock SJ(unless it's DNC)

Besides proccing white for 100, I haven't heard much advantage of locking SJ I think.

I target bat/bat trios/diremite near Jeuno in qufim, it's pretty much the only good camp in qufim. Other DC mobs are either ****** to kill(like krakens/snolls) or in ****** area with aggros.



On a side note just got 428 coins + 40 forgotten today with 3 ppl ;)
#4 Jan 13 2012 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
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That's nice to know I can keep a subjob and still get forgotten items.

I don't do Neo-Dynamis much and certainly when I do its usually a quick solo journey since I rarely have time outside of LS events to organize a small group.

Likely I'll have to do this solo on DNC or BLU, since even with the ability to control links on COR, our evasion still sucks too much to solo many of these mobs.
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#5 Feb 19 2012 at 11:51 PM Rating: Decent
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So I've been working on AF2+2 legs recently soloing in CoP Dynamis zones. To collect currency and forgotten items its still easiest on DNC for me. But I will say its totally possible to solo the 20k xp on COR sticking to EP mobs by and large. TE's are a joke on COR with WF/QD. You can take a statue down in a couple seconds and get spectral jig up before the other mobs knew what happened.

I solo as COR/DNC and keep tacticians and dancers rolls up. Allows me to have plenty of TP for WS's. Evasion bonus from DNC does help avoid a lot of hits surprisingly.

Anyway its nice to know you can work on these things solo if you have to. Of course much easier in a group and I try to join with anyone I know if its convenient.
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#6 Feb 20 2012 at 4:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Dartagnann wrote:
So I've been working on AF2+2 legs recently soloing in CoP Dynamis zones. To collect currency and forgotten items its still easiest on DNC for me. But I will say its totally possible to solo the 20k xp on COR sticking to EP mobs by and large. TE's are a joke on COR with WF/QD. You can take a statue down in a couple seconds and get spectral jig up before the other mobs knew what happened.

I solo as COR/DNC and keep tacticians and dancers rolls up. Allows me to have plenty of TP for WS's. Evasion bonus from DNC does help avoid a lot of hits surprisingly.

Anyway its nice to know you can work on these things solo if you have to. Of course much easier in a group and I try to join with anyone I know if its convenient.


DNC is one of the better dyna solo job due to TH2, IMO. After BST TH nerf it'd probably be one of the best. Dmg wise I'm not sure though.

According to test on BG, evasion skill only equal to 0.9 evasion, so D rank evasion skill isn't THAT bad on EP, you can somehow make it up with evasion set and evasion bonus on SJ.

COR's low evasion and survive-ability is more noticeable on DC mobs, when THF can avoid a plenty. However in a group setting if you duo/trio DC mobs, COR is IMO, very good(at least until save TP nerf), thanks to extra JA proc and TP buff x2, and high WS frequency. I didn't rate this job this high in Neo nyzul, so I don't just say it cuz I play the job XD.

If you're only doing EP mob probably BST DNC NIN THF etc are better.

I'd also recommend Exenterator WS, especially if you already have it on THF or DNC etc. Saves me a lot of money by using it sometimes. It can be stronger than WF depending on the mob, it's weaker than last stand unless lucky DA TA proc, but it doesn't consume bullets and cheap.

I often use it when I engage the mob if I have 100 TP and QD up, for extra acc down effect and some dmg(since I'm not in a hurry to kill it until proc). Or if mob only has 5%~10% HP left and don't need WF/Last stand to finish it.


Edited, Feb 21st 2012 6:41am by Afania
#7 Feb 20 2012 at 10:53 PM Rating: Decent
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I'd also recommend Exenterator WS, especially if you already have it on THF or DNC etc. Saves me a lot of money by using it sometimes. It can be stronger than WF depending on the mob, it's weaker than last stand unless lucky DA TA proc, but it doesn't consume bullets and cheap.

I often use it when I engage the mob if I have 100 TP and QD up, for extra acc down effect and some dmg(since I'm not in a hurry to kill it until proc). Or if mob only has 5%~10% HP left and don't need WF/Last stand to finish it.


Yes I like using exenterator as the first WS to help further with evading attacks. I find a QD/WF will be roughly equal to a non-QD Last Stand. But of course Last Stand uses two expensive bullets vs a cheap card and bullet.

I'm sure there are far better jobs than COR to solo in Dyna, but i' surprised how comparable it can be given the WS frequency, good ja procs, ease of getting TE. The TE is pretty huge since only BST and BLM are comparable at taking these things out with minimal risk. THF, NIN and DNC stand a considerably greater chance at aggro which slows things down.
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#9 Feb 27 2012 at 5:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Thank you for your timely information Afania. I tried this out and it worked great.
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