Time to Merit AGI?Follow

So we get more attribute merits this update. Thus far I've put virtually all of them into STR being a Mithra character.

But as a COR main with a bit of RNG on the side, I was wondering if its not worthwhile to start putting some into AGI.

Rationale:
1) STR does nothing for Wildfire or QD, two of our most potent damaging abilities
2) AGI is a major modifier for Wildfire
3) AGI helps QD acc
4) AGI also improves ranged acc and improves subtle blow
5) Last Stand, which appears to be an improvement over slug at 5/5, has 100% AGI modifier

So is it time to boost the MIthra advantage even further, or does the fSTR on ranged attacks and physical weapon skills still make STR a worthy investment?

I'm more disappointed in the 90 Empyrean COR that is /WHM, which is the norm amongst the JP COR population.

COR has become useful in VWNM with tacticians/misers and its procs, but few are optimizing damage and are instead sitting back and "helping out". There are definitely fights where COR damage is important like Pil.

But I've definitely seen a surge in COR interest with VWNM. Last night in JP primetime there were 55 COR and 56 SAM on the server. Quite a change from the height of ToAU. Of course the COR were 90% /WHM.

But back on topic, I certainly am heavily leaning to AGI merits. Will keep what I have in STR and just make the new ones AGI.

I guess it depends on your main jobs.
I will be keeping merits in STR largely because as a Mithra character I'm STR challenged to begin with and they do help on BLU.
But since I consider myself a COR main/ RNG alt-main, mixing in some added AGI makes some sense at this point (for teh reasons listed above).

I certainly wouldn't recommend it for anyone that boasts a heavy DD job like WAR, SAM, DRG, etc as a alternate main job.

Seriously what's this anti-/WHM going on for years all about? I love the versatility of /mage, it's just a tool to help you out when oh sh*t moment occurs and you need extra cure/erase/-na/SS/magic def bonus/raise/RR and so on. Is it really such a big deal to lose 3 min meditate/store TP/5 min sek in none-zerging situations?


And as "sitting back and help out", plenty of Pil NA /shout pt still full of death and what not, and isn't "helping out" the main purpose of playing this job in the first place?

You can still do dmg with /WHM, just equip your DD gear and do dmg like usual. If oh sh*t moment happens and you happened to need MP, put on MP gear and use ether? Since it's oh-sh*t moment isn't helping out the pt better than doing dmg? /WHM just offers extra tool to handle the oh-sh*t situations, such WHM got drawn-in and stoned and such(and yes it could happen), why is it so bad to "help out others"?

JPs have very different mentality when playing this game compare with NAs. If you join their VW pt you'll know, they never put dmg output on first priority. You will see Ukko WAR not using Ukon but using other weapons because he's trying for proc, even though there are other jobs that can do the proc as well. They're willing to sacrifice personal dmg output in every way to ensure things get going well. Most of the ppl I know who've joined JP /shout VW pt only admire the how they do things and how smooth it went.

I'm not saying COR dmg isn't important, but there's a balance. I don't always /WHM personally since I'm more of a DD player, but there are a few times in my life that I regret not /WHM and not having the tools to deal with the oh-sh*t moment. For me there are no reason to look down ppl who /WHM IMO.



Edited, Dec 14th 2011 6:42pm by Afania

Perhaps this is a silly question, but unless the fight is very specifically a status removal spree, what advantage would /whm offer over /rdm?

/rdm should now have Cure IV and Haste, and the MAB trait helps with Wildfire/QD. Am I missing something?

You just ans your own question in first sentence ;)

Sure, or you can as well argue that +7 stat ring isn't necessary to play the job and just stick with +3 rings, and so on. So why are we spending 1 mil on a +7 stat ring when we can just settle with +3. What a waste of time and money!

Huh.


You can't change race once you picked it, so there isn't anything ppl can do. You can do something about your merit and stat+3 rings, that's the difference.


How about we don't play the game at all and just afk in Jeuno all day, don't do any events like VW Abyssea Neo dyna, since you can get the job done without those gears ;D




And no, I don't agree with your opinion about ppl spend big money on these items "to appear to have the best gear in front of their fellow players". I just find it fun to try and push the limit/potential of the job and don't care jack about what others think. Since there isn't anything else to do in this game except gear grind anyways, as I've beat almost every game content besides new nyzul impossible. I felt a sense of accomplishment when I'm able to break 4.4k last stand on Pil on this job(which I previously think isn't possible on COR), even if nobody else cares, I find it fun. And I enjoy seeing other player try and pushing the potential and sets a standard as well, so I can learn from them. I mean, what's the point to do any event at all if you don't enjoy seeing big numbers/parse after obtaining all the gears?


There are ppl trying to challenge themselves everyday, some by soloing impossible stuff, some by challenging impossible content(like Neo nyzul F100), some by pushing the dmg output in VW by building different gear sets. Some just play the game with friends and have fun. Why don't you just respect others who likes to play the job to most potential? If you just want to get the job done with stat +3 rings, fine. But respect other's who spend mil on +7 rings too. Spending mils on stat +7 rings is just an attitude of taking the job seriously, of trying to do better, instead of the attitude of get the job done and gtfo. And those player who takes the job seriously often has higher performance and efficiency in events too, and often more trust worthy. Sometimes that's also the difference between wiping to B.rex or winning in 3 min. I've made enough B.rex pt(killed it nearly 70 times for athos's body) and /shout VW pt in general, to tell the difference between pt with players taking things seriously v.s have get the job done attitude, guess what? Difference is huge. I still run into WHMs has no boost AGI spells(a 10k spell) and 20% cure potency in /shout everyday. I still run into ppl tried to get invite by lying about their skill level and doing dirty tricks, and made the fight unnecessary harder. When harder content like Neo nyzul or B.rex kicks in, get the job done attitude player will have harder time to beat it.

If you only want to get the job done with stat +3 rings, that's fine, it's none of my business. But really, elitist card is easy to play.









Edited, Feb 20th 2012 6:03pm by Afania

double post

Edited, Feb 21st 2012 6:36am by Afania

Yes our definitions must be different. My "get the job done" person doesn't wear +3 stat rings because that degree of disinterest doesn't "get the job done". I look at my WHM which I used to get most of my Empy for COR. It has reasonable gear with 48% Cure potency, some haste and fast cast and I have decent healing atmas and have healing/enhancing/enfeebling skills above 350. It "gets the job done" in Abyssea, but I wouldn't take it out for a high level VW run as I think it needs a lot of work (which I don't care about since I only levelled it to contribute to my empy party).

Similarly I can bring my COR out to any VW group as its only missing a few pieces to be top tier but other jobs I have wouldn't past the muster so I wouldn't offer them to a VW PUG.

There is room in the game for B+ players. These people have a +5 stat ring, or an NQ Ocelomeh headpiece, or maybe a piece ot two of AF3 that is only +1. They may have a haste build that is 2-3% off cap. They are a little off from elite but still have good gear and know their job. There isn't that much in the game other than Neo-Nyzul and perhaps some upper tier VW that can't be done with those types of players. But there are C type players with the +3 stat rings that definitely don't get the job done. That's a different category IMO.