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#1 Jul 31 2011 at 4:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Just a quick poll for those useing WIldfire. How much AGI and mATT are you useing for brewed and nonbrewed wildfires. Dont worry about sub or maat roll, just curious from gear.
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#2 Jul 31 2011 at 5:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Let me start by saying I dont have wildfire but any AGI during brew means nothing, as it caps.

A non-brewed WF should have a ratio of close to 2MAB = 3AGI, for the purpose of determining max damage.

I'm considering doing bedlam +2 as the damage output will not be much different and is much easier to obtain.
Camping NM's is not my strong point in the game however as is holding me back atm.
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#3 Aug 01 2011 at 3:20 AM Rating: Default
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Alobont wrote:
Just a quick poll for those useing WIldfire. How much AGI and mATT are you useing for brewed and nonbrewed wildfires. Dont worry about sub or maat roll, just curious from gear.



What about food/abyssite/merits XD

Don't really use AGI at all for brew(I usually only brew on firesday, that's why there's obi/zodiac)
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/216345




None-brew(No money/gears for more AGI ;< )

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/202185



Edited, Aug 1st 2011 5:24am by Afania
#4 Aug 07 2011 at 1:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Alobont wrote:
Just a quick poll for those useing WIldfire. How much AGI and mATT are you useing for brewed and nonbrewed wildfires. Dont worry about sub or maat roll, just curious from gear.



In case if you're wondering about the AGI and MAB ratio for Wildfire, I've been doing some tests recently, using Loki+AF3+2 legs v.s MAB+4 Mirke + MAB+4 desultor,
and got the conclusion that whether you should be gearing for AGI or MAB is entirely depending on what SJ you're using, what area you're doing the WS(inside or outside? Heroes zone or visions zone?) and if your MAB buff/temp/roll is up or not. Maybe target mobs INT will affect it too.

If you're having very high amount of AGI, adding more AGI will be less effective than adding more MAB, and vice versa. So if you're not using wizards roll/MAB temps, MAB set may be better than AGI, and having it up will make AGI set deal more dmg.

For example, if I go to visions zone with /SAM, MAB set will do more dmg than AGI set if I don't pop wizards roll/MAB temps, but if I popped MAB temp/roll, AGI set ended up doing more.

However, if I move to heroes zone with /SAM, MAB set will always win with with or without MAB temp/roll, with much higher AGI from cruor buff, and if I change to RDM and pop MAB temp/rolls, AGI set deals more dmg again.

Also it seems(but I'm not entirely sure), against higher INT mobs AGI seems to be better than MAB.

I also tested on VWNM with /RDM, most of the time MAB wins without wizards, with wizards AGI wins.

The dmg difference between both gear set is about 30~300, so for those who really want highest WS possible for optimal result, prehaps it's necessary to do it like other melee jobs, have one set of gear with attack buffs, have another set without attack buffs.

I also posted all the dmg SS and testing process here, if you're interested.
#5 Sep 05 2011 at 4:24 PM Rating: Good
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Quick thing... I'm pretty sure MAB brew gets upped majorly similarly to stats (AGI), and so MAB will give diminishing returns right?

Though if AGI is at a hard cap and cant be increased any more my point is moot and I should wear more MAB anyway...
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#6 Sep 06 2011 at 8:31 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't think you can go beyond 999 AGI. But I'm not sure there is a hard cap on MAB.
Yes, in the end you could brew naked with gun and not see a whole ton of difference. But the difference you see will favor MAB gear over AGI gear.
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#7 Sep 07 2011 at 4:19 AM Rating: Default
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Dartagnann wrote:
I don't think you can go beyond 999 AGI. But I'm not sure there is a hard cap on MAB.
Yes, in the end you could brew naked with gun and not see a whole ton of difference. But the difference you see will favor MAB gear over AGI gear.




According to some of the test I've read on the forums, getting more MAB during brew will indeed increase dmg(just not a lot), therefore no cap.

Stats caps at 999 I believe, it will say "your current AGI"+ "(value that reaches 999)" in the attribute menu when brew used. So it's 999.


Karin Obi/Zodiac ring will make large difference if you brew on firesday, have a sch in pt, or if you wait until next update and /SCH. Otherwise MAB gear difference is small.
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