To the end of the world (Obtaining Armageddon)Follow

It depends on your resources. If you have 2-3 friends with the right jobs, and they're willing to dedicate the time, each stage of Armageddon can be done in a day of hardcore farming.

If you're more of a loner or don't have a lot of playtime, then the WoE path still results in a very nice gun that can be obtained at a casual pace.

Edited, Mar 23rd 2011 12:24pm by Chewzer

AlObont for @#%^ sake. Seriously people cant read its an O.

Also im doing my fishes in shouts with limited playtime outside of my static. Had my static done the fish we would of had masamune and arma done by now.

I'm curious about this too. I currently use SMoldering Sky, Lone Wolf & Ultimate.

Welcome to the club & congratulations. Now go brew something. Lol. May i suggest Isegebind.

Edited, Mar 27th 2011 12:38pm by MK187

Cara isnt camped at all any more really. Most people have made their masamunes. Cc is still camped pretty well but nothing like guku. Everyone is making nin katanas and war gaxes so guku is probably the most camped currently.

Just parsed the other day in EXP pt with /SAM, with sea daughter atma I WS almost 2x as many times as using 3 fire attack and MAB atma. Compare with other melee DDs I WS 3 times more often and 3~4 times more WS dmg. I'd say as long as you're using a Vulcan's staff, Smoldering sky/Ultimate/sea daughter combo is very hard to beat.





I'd say that's because SAM COR RNG and DRK are pretty dead job atm so ppl won't bother, and would rather do NIN empyrean which is 10x more useful. After next update things may change with new content outside of abyssea, so better quickly finish the Heqet stage now XD.


Edited, Mar 28th 2011 8:17pm by Afania

I would be curious to see your results if you replaced Ultimate or Smoldering with Gnarled Horn. While you would decrease your Fire Shot damage a bit, I think the added damage to Wildfire might make up for it.

Not that it really matters much anyways in an exp party. Wildfire damn near one-shots every NQ mob in Abyssea anyways.

From what ive seen matt does more for wildfire then agil. Its easy to see with GH and Ultimate. From the formulas ive seen matt is multiplied at the end of equation so its gonna give a larger boost. Im not sure on the matt to agil ratio though.

akisushiva, thank you for posting #'s. Interesting that's for sure.

So based on those #'s,

Atma of the Burning Effigy (FireWeapon Skill Damage+: Major | Gain full benefit of Firesday/fire weather bonuses)

Atma of Hell's Guardian (MAB+50)

Atma of the Smoldering Sky (Fire Attack+30)


Best 3 atma's for Wildfire?

If TP dmg is needed aswell, which for most things it is outside of engage NM and ws, then RR would be a good choice. The nice melee buff obviously speaks for itself. 50AGL is a big boost for ws too, although not the biggest. Combined with Lone wolf or Smoulering sky and Ultimate seems like a solid allround atma setup.




RR would be +50AGL, so using the ws equation it becomes

1238 * 1.55 * 1.9 = 3645 Damage


Also, wouldn't the 3rd MAB atma be 50MAB instead of 40 (as its superior, or 30 if its Major)), along with the Fire Attack only being +30 because its FireAtt: Major. I don't think there are any Fire Attack: Superior atmas unless i'm wrong, I thought Lone wolf was superior but wiki has it as major so i dunno.

If you re-did the 3rd atma, a MAB superior as 3rd should win, followed by AGL, followed by the Major Fire attack.

this is semi necro bump but ohwell.

WoE Gun vs Real thing for Corsair is a mute point. Most Cor's get the gun to use for brews, each weapon will do the exact same damage under brew on wildfires, If you however have and use Rng aswell, then make the real one.

Im currently 22/50 gems, after 2 trips into abyssea, I was 16/50 lanterns but dropped them duo to thinking I wouldnt make the weapon. But just as easy as the first stage anyways. And isge getting KI's from chests and basically non-stop farming of the KI nm makes the whole 80-90 trial the easiest path by far.

The gun is amazing every cor should have it.

What jobs do you have atm?

Yes you can duo the entire trial easily, even without MNK+WHM levelled.
I don't have MNK NIN WHM WAR w/e job that makes Abyssea easy mode, but still able get all the way to lv 90 done, I've done all 3 NMs without those easy mode job as well. So I guess you don't really NEED to lv those jobs, although lving those jobs will make your life a lot easier.

Carabosse: I've done it with BLU/NINx2+ BLM after recent update, BLM was there for yellow proc for +2 items, so you don't need a WHM for this NM at all. This NM should be able to solo by some jobs such as NIN/DNC, maybe DNC, BLU, BST can also solo it. Basically for melee straight tank jobs, just keep your shadows up, kite it around the lake if you got mute+dispel to avoid dangerous situations(that's if you're soloing it, if you're duoing with a WHM you can just keep DDing), and gear swap to MDT- set if stunned+ shadows dispelled and AeroV or AMII magic coming. I've also seen a WAR/SAM duoed it with a WHM, he just eats all spells with a MDT- set, so you don't even need shadows XD

I've wrote a possible strategy to solo Carabosse on BLU here: http://an-empty-vessel.blogspot.com/2011/05/blu-solo-carabosse.html
I think it can also apply to other jobs.


CC: Can solo or lowman easily with any job that can bind/gravity and kite nuke. In theory COR can solo it with QD, but that'd take very long time. I think BST can solo it too.

Isgebind: You can just get 4~5 ppl holding KI for you and brew all of them at once with Wildfire. I've also done it with a PLD friend with no WHM in the pt, although that's an Ochain PLD. I think any DD/NIN can duo with a WHM/BLM with a MDT- set and WHM good enough to get through the para aura+ stun -ga spells. I've also seen 2 BST pets main tanked/DD Isgebind, so I think BST can also solo/duo this NM.




Edited, May 15th 2011 8:09pm by Afania

Thank you both, thats exactly what I was looking for :D

I already have the combat jobs leveled, just a matter of having a pocket mage now.

Gold chest farming sucks in the Visions zones (I think that is the first expansion) because it could drop all 2343234523 KIs for the zone, it is less sucky on the Scars zones because it used to be only 4 KIs (now 6). This should improve the T2 Empyrean stage quite a bit. Would still prefer it was a popped NM change though.