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Realistically, there are very very few NM's that take 20-40 min, that drop seals. Unless its the sausage quest or the bag quest, your generally wasting your time for seals on quests, compared to NMs, which inside a group you can farm TEs as well.



What exactly is burning up all your time? Questing for fame will eat most of your stones as I mentioned before. Only way i can see you burning that many stones are daily trips inside without building time and starting with zero stones. If you would wait a week, and let your stones build up, you will hover at a higher rate of stones. Also if you stop questing your stones will replenish as well.



You can have 50 Carabosse gems, in 1 day, 3 max if you went and just burned her down for a couple hours. As far as the fish boss goes, heqet is your only stopping block, but many groups are just tossing lanterns right now so not, that hard to find some. You will spend the majority of your time doing the fish since getting heqet is an issue currently.

Also I assumed since you were in the COR forum you have cor leveled. A lot of NM's can be killed by COR solo using pinning. Yes it takes a lot of time by yourself but it can be done. Brooder, Piasa, Rabit NM in La theine, Worm NM in la theine, Ovni, any of the iron clads, though the Mis coast would give you some issues, chukwa, Amun, Whereatrice, Spider in Vunk, and im sure there are more, thats just off the top of my head.

Im sure you also know a RDM of some sorts, so you can drag them along and you can make a deal tof ight stuff he wants if he helps you. Partnership is amazing. Or jsut find a MNK and RDM friend and destroy everything.

Really every one I've gone low man too took at least 20 min. Granted our mates are only now getting the really good atmas so that may change over time. But until you obtain the good Atmas, questing still is reaonable. You can farm TE either before questing or before NM killing so that makes little difference.

Purely on time spent I've done better questing than NM killing (always take into account time spent getting people together). I can rapidly do most quests on my spare time from LS events and Real life. Getting a group together takes time, esp if your helpers aren't always on when you are.

My group doesnt have any really decent atmas, and most seal NM's are laughable at best with 6 people. My low man group runs on a 2 day a week schedule. Wednesday 5:30-10 and saturday 10-5 and we all start on time. Very rarely are we waiting on people since most people know what job to come as unless its feasible to melee kill the mob faster then mage kill it. If you setup a schedule, you shouldnt have any issues.

You have a better chance of coming out with a full 8 seals from a NM in one trip into abyssea then you do from questing. If your group isnt actively trying for grellow and has a THF, then your doing it wrong. If anything make someone use atma of dread.



Edited, Nov 18th 2010 2:47pm by Alobont

I hardly ever get resisted unless im useing something other then thunder, water cards. I can easily push 400 a hit on him with my current gear. If your getting hit by it you either dont have movement speed or are kiting wrong. Very rarely do I ever get hit by any of tyem except mis coast one since that kck move is a huge radius.

To realistically solo it with out rage you would need to have your QDs pushing 800 or so which seems perfectly reasonable with gear and atmas. Sounds to me like your just dong it wrong.

There are pics on this forum of 1k qds, so your missing something. Im already hitting near 400 with agnostic magnatus +8, wizards and /nin. Tuats with no maat atmas.

How is it extremely difficult, the only hard part in the entire thing is getting an armageddon or something of a high damage gun. All the gear is there, and the giant is easily kited. It sounds to me as though you either a suck at kiting or be suck at kiting.

Ive held the giant with my whm/blm for 15 min without any worries while my group gathers. The only giant that would give a COR a run for there money is Mis, because his leg move is so long and it strips gear and gives amnesisa. Vunk and attowha giants can easily be killed solo if you so choose.

Im not advocating people go solo them due to long *** time constraints, but it is possible if someone were to choose to do it, and its easy.

Just because I say a COR can solo a giant doesnt mean people will do it, its the same as saying a cor can solo ovni, which they can by pinning it, just no one wants to waste that much time.

Iron giant has about 50,000 hp.
Assuming you can get 800 QDs.
It will take about 47 minutes to kill.

Obviously my math is inferior to your completely unverified claims.

Really? I can only break 400 if I use /RDM, HQ stave and have my Baying Moon Atma (MAB +30) unless the mob is overly magic sensitive or something (i.e flans). I can get to near 500 with Wiz roll and BLM in party. But against alot of NM's I still see a fairly high resist rate and often hit for 200 or less.

While I believe people can hit for 1000, I think it requires an awful lot of manipulation of mob and player stats. It's not going to happen for most practical uses of QD.

I have similar gear as listed above.

HQ staff
Af tricorne
Moldy
qd-5 mirke
forban cape
navarch boots+1
magnatus+8
oberon bullets
Denali pants
ugg pendant

I can see around 300s or more with that. Ive seen 400s with wizards roll and ascetics if memort serves me correct, could be wrong. This is with no matt atmas at all.

Ok so Ive been running the math.

With the following gear you cna hit 597.74, this not include hq staff bonus/day/weather/obi/ascetics/ 10% from navarchs+1/ or the triple damage bonus from +2/ also this is assuming your subbing like nin with no matt trait.

Forban = 3
Denali = 3
Moldy = 5
Ugg = 8
Wizards Roll (11) = +16
Wizards Roll (5) = +13
Armageddon (level 85) = 61 DMG
Oberon bullets = 77 DMG

Atma of beyond = +60
Atma of baying moon = +30

2*(Gun Base DMG + Bullet Base DMG + Tricorne)*(1+(MAB/100))

With an 11 on Wizards with BLM bonus.
2*(61+77+5)*(1+(125/100)) = 643.5

With a 5 on Wizards with BLM bonus.
2*(61+77+5)*(1+(122/100)) = 634.92

Now if add in 10% Bonus from feet...

64+643 = 707
63+634 = 697

Now since getting an Armageddon for some is out of reach we can look at Mayhem+1.

With an 11 on Wizards with BLM Bonus.
2*(48+77+5)*(1+(131/100)) = 600.6

SO as one can see, hitting that 800 mark isnt a big deal at all. The gear listed here isnt even all the matt gear available for COR, nor is any of it hard to get. A Mayhem+1 is very attainable for those who truelly cant work on an Armageddon. Also none of this math includes day/weather/obi/hqstaff/ or subjob matt bonus.

If your solo-ing, your only gonna get to use Acetics once. Theres also the +1 Acetic temp item too thats a very rare drop drop from chests (although its not called +1), the other version to Stalwarts Gambir (which gives 150att & 150acc) neither of which are currently listed on wiki.