level / XP between this infinite chain party and that. carrilei is dying to validate him or herself, it's pathetic, and all i've seen him/her post.
Uh, my only point has been that you judging merit performance by infinite chains is a joke. Where exactly do you get that I'm "dying to validate myself"? I've been in lackluster merit parties before, and great ones, like many others. I think you're confusing logic with .. arrogance, or something? I guess it could seem like that if you're so often on the other side of it.
i feel sorry for you if your pickup infinite chain parties at birds are 13k/hr. get better leaders and stop partying 5 DD/NIN + COR/WHM or whatever you'd have to do to be so abysmal.
Let's see here. Did RVW say he was in these 13k/hr parties, or did he point out that "infinite chain" can be 13k/hr as to point out that you're spouting incorrect bullsh*t? Hmmm...
you are so slow. you've picked up on this infinite chain thing (and i've trolled you repeatedly by using it without quotation or comment, but forgetting that), but you disagreed with me when i mentioned how there's very little difference between average/above-average merit parties and all-6-members-are-fantastic merit parties. i'm sure there's people here who are stupid enough to not notice that disagreement entails affirmation of the opposite opinion; in other words, i'm not putting words in your mouth by (wildly!) assuming that when you disagree with me, you hold the opposite view to mine.
as for getting all upset about infinite chain parties, i reiterate that infinite chain at birds is 18k+ minimum (same with nyzul mamool generally), and i'd love to see some parses proving me wrong.
"but RVW said infinite chain at birds can be 13k!" yeah. i reiterate (why am i always reiterating when i address you?) that the raw possibility of 13k/hr doesn't mean it ever happens; no one has 100+ chain with each fight measuring exactly 59 seconds. again, feel free to show me your parsed mediocrity if you have such a weird party recording.
i'm not going to go back and quote the beginning of this thread (you can read it yourself if you want), but i will continue to insult you. (if that's too cryptic, it's in response to whining about putting words in your mouth or whatever boring sh*t you post)
rvw in response to your most recent post,
my point is that minimal XP per infinite chain is impossible because you can't have fights that last the max amount of time before losing chain and still keep chain. the reason for this is that uniform fight length is impossible, especially with gimps.
i'm a bit at a loss at how to respond to you otherwise. you kill wivre and make how much more XP? what are you even claiming? that a pickup PT gets 20k, and you get 33k from wivre? ...the colibri still have the same repop times you know (stay with me here). so you get 3 more mobs per cycle. are you seriously trying to tell me that 3 mobs are giving like 5k XP?
and also, the COR roll mentioning is due to the fact that you're (as in this recent post) claiming these sweeping XP numbers to prove something about damage, but considering non-COR roll XP minimums (the gimp parties) and obviously COR-rolled maximums (those heavy epeen swingers).
i don't know why you're pretending there's like 5k/cycle worth of wivre XP at nyzul isle... i can only assume you're deluded into thinking a party that was pulling from all 3 camps "just doesn't get much more XP" than a party that doesn't... there really aren't enough mobs there to get more than a k or two more than an average infinite chain party (wink -> carrilei).
edit: not to be insulting (though you are being kind of insulting by not thinking, but i'm okay with it), a quick direct response:
So is your point that a minimal-chain party would actually get ~15k/hr instead of ~12k? There's still a massive gap between that and 25k+.
considering i've said twice now that 18-20k/hr is about the minimum for reliably infinite chains at birds, you really couldn't infer what my point is? i mean, you sat at your computer and read me type "20k/hr" and thought, "he must mean 15k/hr"? Edited, Jul 11th 2009 8:31pm by milich