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#52 Jul 09 2009 at 9:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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The problem with your reasoning is that no one cares if you go /WHM or /RNG or /DNC or ffs even /THF except for other COR who can't mind their own business. The only way they would regret inviting you is if you forgot to do rolls.


I think you underestimate the FFXI population (maybe I overestimate it a bit as well). I recently levelled RNG and was in a few parties with COR and I certainly appreciated those that put the effort in and we did get better xp than when paired with a crappy COR.

But I agree that many parties are willing to settle for a bad COR just to get buffs. But none of those COR's get complemented at the end of a session like the good COR's and BRD's do.
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#53 Jul 09 2009 at 9:26 PM Rating: Good
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Then you're all doing it wrong because Martial Gun isn't a hexagun


PLease tell SE that. I've been dying for them to explain the idiocy that is the hexagun line of guns for COR. What is the point of a gun that offers less damage per shot, less WS damage and lower QD damage for a modest gain in weapon delay? Sheer lunacy.
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#54 Jul 09 2009 at 10:14 PM Rating: Good
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The problem with your reasoning is that no one cares if you go /WHM or /RNG or /DNC or ffs even /THF except for other COR who can't mind their own business. The only way they would regret inviting you is if you forgot to do rolls.


The funny part is how many "omg, I had this pt with this COR who sucked" threads you see in this forum then how many "no one gives a **** about your dmg" posts. Something's got to give.

I think that most people have merited with enough CORs to have seen the wide range of playstyles and skill levels that our job possesses. COR+BRD support is basically standard at this point, assuming you can find both. If there are still people who don't know what COR can do, i'll have to join their pt and open a few eyes. It gets hard to ignore or miss quadrouple-figure slug shots every minute or so in a pt of any worthwhile length.

On a side note, my ponderings as to whether the gap between good COR75 and bad COR75 was the biggest in game.... have quelled a bit considering my last two parses.

My SAM won a parse against a WAR a MNK and another SAM despite the fact that I ate a nasty pecking flurry and was incapacitated for five full minutes. I was 31%, the WAR 28%, the MNK 26%. You math major might note that leaves not many % left over for the other SAM. TPing n Domaru, Wyvern helm... yikes.

In Nyzul on my WAR, I nearly doubled-up the other WAR in total dmg on a single run. My WAR is solid, I wouldnt call it elite. Apart from skilling up, I've barely used it in the last year lol. Have most of the standard gear tho (Perdu, Askar stuff, aurum feet, BH, Swift belt, brutal etc). Only things the other WAR really lacked were BH and Aurum feet. also TPed in Hauberk which is entirely unnecessary in nyzul.
#55 Jul 09 2009 at 11:43 PM Rating: Default
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The funny part is how many "omg, I had this pt with this COR who sucked" threads you see in this forum then how many "no one gives a sh*t about your dmg" posts. Something's got to give.

And how many "wtf this COR suxxxxx" posts do you see outside of the COR forum?
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#56 Jul 10 2009 at 6:10 AM Rating: Good
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Then you're all doing it wrong because Martial Gun isn't a hexagun


PLease tell SE that. I've been dying for them to explain the idiocy that is the hexagun line of guns for COR. What is the point of a gun that offers less damage per shot, less WS damage and lower QD damage for a modest gain in weapon delay? Sheer lunacy.


The same reason peacemaker is only 15 damage. Balance.

Also they likely wanted to make them a separate type of gun like they probably wanted to make the BLU sword line a separate type of sword line but it fell through.

The hexaguns aren't THAT bad unless you're planning to go all out DD and QD damage crazy.
#57 Jul 10 2009 at 6:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Personally, I'm glad they haven't made a really great Hexagun yet. I think they look retarded.
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#58 Jul 10 2009 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
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The same reason peacemaker is only 15 damage. Balance.

Also they likely wanted to make them a separate type of gun like they probably wanted to make the BLU sword line a separate type of sword line but it fell through.

The hexaguns aren't THAT bad unless you're planning to go all out DD and QD damage crazy.


Balance? what balance does an obviously inferior line of guns have? I mean its not even close.

The hexaguns are terrible. They offer only a slight delay improvement and reduce your WS, QD and damage per shot. They offer no reasonable bonuses like martial gun. SO basically you end up with greater costs, less damage and worse QD's. How is that even remotely balanced.

There are so many things you could do to the hexagun line to make them useful without unbalancing COR. Add MAB to improve the QD damage to Corsairs gun levels. Add a hexagun specific WS that is accurate but damage on par with detonator. Add more AGI or RACC to make up for our B skill.

Right now a COR is set with martial gun, peacemaker and corsairs gun. None are the hexagun line. That is not balanced.

Saying hexaguns aren't that bad for COR is like saying shortbows aren't that bad for RNG.
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#60 Jul 10 2009 at 11:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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And how many "wtf this COR suxxxxx" posts do you see outside of the COR forum?


Well, TBH, virtually all "this XXX job sucks" threads end up in the job forum of that particular XXX job. Would you expect to see a complaint thread about RDM's in a COR forum?
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#61 Jul 12 2009 at 7:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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The question is: am I the type of player that complements a party and makes other people feel good about their time with me? If yes, then ask yourself, "am I enjoying the game". If yes, great. If no, level a different job or play BST.


As a level 75 BST who also plays COR, I will differ, BST isn't the answer here, the answer is WOW.

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The only thing that looking at Sea all COR does is prove the axiom, "80% of the world are morons"


More like 99%, in my opinion, but that would only be noticeable if you do: /sea all.

Oh, and one more thing, to everyone who doesn't think there is a wrong way to play COR, do you know how to play the Job CORrectly? There is a reason COR is part of correct.
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