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#1 Jun 22 2009 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
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So the 9th annual census just came out and in both survey results (Question: "What is your favorite main job") and in actual playtime, COR ranked 20 out of 20 jobs.

Of course if they asked the question, which jobs would you most like to party with, we'd rank a bit higher up I'd say.

So what's your opinion?
Like being a rare job? Like being unique? Wish SE would do something to improve the popularity of the job?

Must admit I'm on the fence. Being the rare job means its easier to get drops for COR equipment. It also means I'm wanted in parties and don't have to fight with 100 other COR's seeking. But I always worry that if no one is playing the job, SE is more inclined to just forget about you (like they seem to have done with PUP).

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#2 Jun 22 2009 at 10:29 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't think anyone likes spending as much money as we do, and as active as we are, we are probably seen as a boring buffer job to the more exciting DRG and SAM jobs.
#3 Jun 22 2009 at 10:36 AM Rating: Good
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more exciting DRG and SAM jobs.


So hitting auto-attack and spamming job ability macros is what accounts for excitement these days in Vanadiel. Sad really. As a COR I get to roll a mini-game of blackjack, improve other players skills, sleep adds, do damage, dispel, heal, etc. Doesn't get more exciting than that.

I think the server population just likes "easy and cheap" as their default mode. The bottom 4 jobs: COR, SCH, PUP, RNG are all either pricey, difficult to do or both.
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#4 Jun 22 2009 at 10:42 AM Rating: Decent
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There's a simple answer to all of this:


EVERYONE WANTS TO DO E-PEEN DAMAGE THEMSELVES RATHER THEN HELP OTHERS DO E-PEEN DAMAGE!


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The bottom 4 jobs: COR, SCH, PUP, RNG


Funny I have COR & RNG at 75, and I've been leveling PUP lol
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#5 Jun 22 2009 at 10:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Dartagnann wrote:

So what's your opinion?
Like being a rare job? Like being unique? Wish SE would do something to improve the popularity of the job?


Like being rare? Check.
Like being unique? Check.
There are many other jobs that need improving before COR.
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#6 Jun 22 2009 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't think anyone likes spending as much money as we do Most people are cheapskates, and as active as we are lazy, we are probably seen as a boring buffer job to the more exciting and have jumped on the DRG and SAM bandwagon


Ftfy

Edited, Jun 22nd 2009 2:56pm by TheBarrister
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#7 Jun 22 2009 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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EVERYONE WANTS TO DO E-PEEN DAMAGE THEMSELVES RATHER THEN HELP OTHERS DO E-PEEN DAMAGE!


But unfortunately none of those jobs would do EPEEN DAMAGE without the help of others. Most of those OMGWTF damage moments occur with the help of Chaos, Minuet, March, Haste, Angon, Dia and food.

And it's always, "OMG I just did XXXX damage on this WS!" rather than the appropriate "We just did XXXX damage to this mob."
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#8 Jun 22 2009 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Least popular job and I'm still lotting against 5 other COR out of the 14ish members of my limbus group........Estimated time of completion for 3/5 pieces: 2016.



Wish it was even more rare. Matter of fact, wish there were only one on my server.....
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#9 Jun 22 2009 at 12:57 PM Rating: Default
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I'm pretty sure people just spit out 3k slugshots by themselves, no buffs required lol. I'm finally getting around leveling corsair, and it does seem like a lot of work, but also brings a lot to that 6th party spot. A decent amount of damage and super cool buffs, idk why it isn't popular.

Here is my question, which job does more damage? Bard buffs/debuffs or corsair DD/buffs? Some day I hope brd or cor becomes a bandwagon job, so I can finally party with them all the time.
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#10 Jun 22 2009 at 1:04 PM Rating: Good
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Dartagnann wrote:
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EVERYONE WANTS TO DO E-PEEN DAMAGE THEMSELVES RATHER THEN HELP OTHERS DO E-PEEN DAMAGE!


But unfortunately none of those jobs would do EPEEN DAMAGE without the help of others. Most of those OMGWTF damage moments occur with the help of Chaos, Minuet, March, Haste, Angon, Dia and food.

And it's always, "OMG I just did XXXX damage on this WS!" rather than the appropriate "We just did XXXX damage to this mob."


QFT, quite sad really.

And as for SE forgetting about COR - I honestly don't see anything wrong with COR as is besides the somewhat prohibitive cost to play effectively (Which pretty much disappears as soon as you hit 70 for Joyeuse). The annoying thing is when you're trying to find other CORs when building a party and seeing none. Or /wristing when your COR is made of complete and utter fail.

Edited, Jun 22nd 2009 5:05pm by Igneus
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#11 Jun 22 2009 at 1:16 PM Rating: Decent
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In total there is about 50-70 cors on my server. 40 of those are 75 or 70+, and theres never more then 20 on at one time. Out of all of that, theres only 3-4 COR mainsbesides
Myself. Everyone else uses another job as their main for events.


Really most people dont have the will or gil to dpend getting COR to 70+, where the cost drops off.
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#12 Jun 22 2009 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Well there's nothing wrong with this job class whatsoever, aside from the fact that the costs are prohibitive.. But to be honest, after 3 years of dealing with it, and XIV coming out next year, I'd prefer it be status quo there, rather than having obscenely cheap bullets come this late in the game as it'd bring 50,000 bandwagon noobs along with it.

I like the rarity - this game is so cookie cutter in terms of gear and playstyle, yet from what I have now to what I should have in the near future, I've never seen another Corsair with it. That's in large part due to the fact that they fail, but also because there are so few.

Edit - I do hope that the tiny COR playerbase hasn't made SE wary of implimenting a similar job class in future games, though...

Edited, Jun 22nd 2009 6:57pm by Carrilei
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#13 Jun 22 2009 at 1:51 PM Rating: Good
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i'm sure it's because the job is a) expensive, b) new(ish), and c) already accepted as useful. if (c) doesn't make sense to you, some of those PUPs you meet who are constantly trying to convince you that PUP is the greatest job in the game are only PUPs in the first place so they can convince people that {unpopular job} is the greatest job in the game.

it's still a bit weird though. (shrug)
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#14 Jun 22 2009 at 2:11 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm pretty happy with the job. It's just every update I look forward to any gear that might make the job a bit better and it seems nothing comes out for RNG or COR. It's like SE hates ranged jobs.

I don't think the job is perfect yet. I think they needed to empower Rogues and Fighters to put them on even footing with Chaos/Hunters/SAM. I think a gilfinder or recycle trait to cover some costs would be cool in the pirate motif. A cheap RACC food for all those colibri parties would be appreciated.

And my biggest peeve of all: Fix the **** hexagun line. Why as a COR am I never using the so called gun of choice for a COR?
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#15 Jun 22 2009 at 6:26 PM Rating: Good
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I enjoy to have the rarest job in the game leveled, however is really hard to convince ppl about the "right way" when 90% of that tiny fraction that constitute the Cor community are cheap-asses who learn towards /Whm onry!!!!

Other than that, is great to be rare ^^d /grin

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#16 Jun 22 2009 at 8:52 PM Rating: Default
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A decent amount of damage and super cool buffs, idk why it isn't popular


Least popular because of cost/hastle to get good buffs rolled.

The above quote is wrong, 90% of cor do not do damage. They are /whm in xp pts, they don't pull and their buffs fall short of brds. So, the genpop of ffxi sees brd in a better light if they want to level a support job that isn't a healer.
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#17 Jun 22 2009 at 8:58 PM Rating: Good
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some of those PUPs you meet who are constantly trying to convince you that PUP is the greatest job in the game are only PUPs in the first place so they can convince people that {unpopular job} is the greatest job in the game.


Truly the unique and beautiful snowflakes of Vanadiel are the PUP's.

Unfortunately most of the current crop of COR's are BRDs that want to level something cooler than BRD. The true hardcore COR is a dying breed. We have COR's on my LS but you'll never see them on COR. People levelled it to be a cool support job and not be a BRD and then realized they didn't like being a support job and jumped back to SAM/WAR/PLD/RDM/WHM/DRG/THF or whatever else they preferred.
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#18 Jun 23 2009 at 1:00 AM Rating: Good
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I like being the only person in my Limbus shell lotting cor, and one of a few in Dynamis lotting cor. I have 3 +1 from Limbus and 4/5 in Dynamis now. I like not having a lot of competition from other Corsair's when I want to merit.

I don't think the job needs any big changes. I would just like to see some nice utility rolls, such as Chocobo Roll, and to only need one type of card to use any quick draw shot.

Edited, Jun 23rd 2009 5:17am by AngelusLestat
#19 Jun 23 2009 at 6:30 AM Rating: Default
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Wow, COR the least popular?

I saw the Census and then I saw this thread here. Mind you, my COR is my lowest leveled job at 28, and on Shiva, finding a COR that's seeking is pretty rare (usually less than 20 CORs on the server at any given time) but if I see a COR seeking, I will invite that COR.

Trust me, look at some of my 75 jobs, I know all about being on "non-popular" jobs.
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#20 Jun 23 2009 at 7:00 AM Rating: Good
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The census tells us the average player makes less than 100k a week. In a best case scenario it would take that player 2 months just to buy all their dice if they spent no money on anything else in game and didn't party at all during that time. Now factor in bullets, gear, food, cards, etc on top of that. It's no wonder corsairs are as rare as we are.
#21 Jun 23 2009 at 7:22 AM Rating: Default
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Also a lot of people dont know what our buffs do our what numbers the COR should be landing. This just feeds the ****** CORs invites and spreads false truths that our buffs are just as strong as 2x brr songs or better. Dont get me started on random deal or wild card.

My friends like to merit with me but they usually want me to pull because i sponge to much as cor/rng and soon /war.

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#22 Jun 23 2009 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
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We're already rare for our expense and frenetic style of play and those of us who frequent this forum know that a ton of people with corsair are doing it wrong anyway by cheaping out on decent gear. In short, if Corsair is rare, then a good Corsair is even rarer.

Since I know I'm actually taking care to do my job right, this survey confirms I'm truly a rare breed, a diamond in the rough, a... ********** Corsair. I'm as happy as a man with tits in his Tricorne!

Drink up me hearties, yo ho!
#23 Jun 23 2009 at 10:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Corsair is one of the main reasons that I kept playing this game as long as I did, and I'm proud to consider it my main job. I love the fact that it lets you do a little bit of everything depending on your setup and what you're fighting. There are so many ways to play the job well, and even despite being a "hybrid" style job, it is still one of the most sought after in the game.
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#24 Jun 24 2009 at 5:00 AM Rating: Good
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Hello! Long time lurker first time poster.

I was excited to play COR long before the job ever existed. I had been saying, while leveling SAM, "i hope pirate is a new job... I WANT TO BE A PIRATE!"

SO, in my case, what the job's role in party was never mattered to me i just wanted to be a pirate in a video game.

Also i agree with the "its cool to not have to wait for gear" sentiment. When I'm in a situation where people do actually want to lot on something i need i find myself quite impatient.

This has nothing to do with anything.

Edited, Jun 24th 2009 9:08am by ibowno
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A kylen sighting!
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#26 Jun 24 2009 at 9:48 AM Rating: Default
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A kylen sighting!


Clearly Kylen's absence from the ranks of the Seagull Phratrie is directly responsible for our poor showing in the census.

All COR demand that he return immediately to shore up the numbers of the few proud and lecherous COR's left in Vanadiel.
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