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#1 Jun 22 2009 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
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So the 9th annual census just came out and in both survey results (Question: "What is your favorite main job") and in actual playtime, COR ranked 20 out of 20 jobs.

Of course if they asked the question, which jobs would you most like to party with, we'd rank a bit higher up I'd say.

So what's your opinion?
Like being a rare job? Like being unique? Wish SE would do something to improve the popularity of the job?

Must admit I'm on the fence. Being the rare job means its easier to get drops for COR equipment. It also means I'm wanted in parties and don't have to fight with 100 other COR's seeking. But I always worry that if no one is playing the job, SE is more inclined to just forget about you (like they seem to have done with PUP).

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#2 Jun 22 2009 at 10:29 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't think anyone likes spending as much money as we do, and as active as we are, we are probably seen as a boring buffer job to the more exciting DRG and SAM jobs.
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more exciting DRG and SAM jobs.


So hitting auto-attack and spamming job ability macros is what accounts for excitement these days in Vanadiel. Sad really. As a COR I get to roll a mini-game of blackjack, improve other players skills, sleep adds, do damage, dispel, heal, etc. Doesn't get more exciting than that.

I think the server population just likes "easy and cheap" as their default mode. The bottom 4 jobs: COR, SCH, PUP, RNG are all either pricey, difficult to do or both.
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There's a simple answer to all of this:


EVERYONE WANTS TO DO E-PEEN DAMAGE THEMSELVES RATHER THEN HELP OTHERS DO E-PEEN DAMAGE!


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The bottom 4 jobs: COR, SCH, PUP, RNG


Funny I have COR & RNG at 75, and I've been leveling PUP lol
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#5 Jun 22 2009 at 10:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Dartagnann wrote:

So what's your opinion?
Like being a rare job? Like being unique? Wish SE would do something to improve the popularity of the job?


Like being rare? Check.
Like being unique? Check.
There are many other jobs that need improving before COR.
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I don't think anyone likes spending as much money as we do Most people are cheapskates, and as active as we are lazy, we are probably seen as a boring buffer job to the more exciting and have jumped on the DRG and SAM bandwagon


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EVERYONE WANTS TO DO E-PEEN DAMAGE THEMSELVES RATHER THEN HELP OTHERS DO E-PEEN DAMAGE!


But unfortunately none of those jobs would do EPEEN DAMAGE without the help of others. Most of those OMGWTF damage moments occur with the help of Chaos, Minuet, March, Haste, Angon, Dia and food.

And it's always, "OMG I just did XXXX damage on this WS!" rather than the appropriate "We just did XXXX damage to this mob."
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#8 Jun 22 2009 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Least popular job and I'm still lotting against 5 other COR out of the 14ish members of my limbus group........Estimated time of completion for 3/5 pieces: 2016.



Wish it was even more rare. Matter of fact, wish there were only one on my server.....
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I'm pretty sure people just spit out 3k slugshots by themselves, no buffs required lol. I'm finally getting around leveling corsair, and it does seem like a lot of work, but also brings a lot to that 6th party spot. A decent amount of damage and super cool buffs, idk why it isn't popular.

Here is my question, which job does more damage? Bard buffs/debuffs or corsair DD/buffs? Some day I hope brd or cor becomes a bandwagon job, so I can finally party with them all the time.
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Dartagnann wrote:
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EVERYONE WANTS TO DO E-PEEN DAMAGE THEMSELVES RATHER THEN HELP OTHERS DO E-PEEN DAMAGE!


But unfortunately none of those jobs would do EPEEN DAMAGE without the help of others. Most of those OMGWTF damage moments occur with the help of Chaos, Minuet, March, Haste, Angon, Dia and food.

And it's always, "OMG I just did XXXX damage on this WS!" rather than the appropriate "We just did XXXX damage to this mob."


QFT, quite sad really.

And as for SE forgetting about COR - I honestly don't see anything wrong with COR as is besides the somewhat prohibitive cost to play effectively (Which pretty much disappears as soon as you hit 70 for Joyeuse). The annoying thing is when you're trying to find other CORs when building a party and seeing none. Or /wristing when your COR is made of complete and utter fail.

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#11 Jun 22 2009 at 1:16 PM Rating: Decent
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In total there is about 50-70 cors on my server. 40 of those are 75 or 70+, and theres never more then 20 on at one time. Out of all of that, theres only 3-4 COR mainsbesides
Myself. Everyone else uses another job as their main for events.


Really most people dont have the will or gil to dpend getting COR to 70+, where the cost drops off.
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Well there's nothing wrong with this job class whatsoever, aside from the fact that the costs are prohibitive.. But to be honest, after 3 years of dealing with it, and XIV coming out next year, I'd prefer it be status quo there, rather than having obscenely cheap bullets come this late in the game as it'd bring 50,000 bandwagon noobs along with it.

I like the rarity - this game is so cookie cutter in terms of gear and playstyle, yet from what I have now to what I should have in the near future, I've never seen another Corsair with it. That's in large part due to the fact that they fail, but also because there are so few.

Edit - I do hope that the tiny COR playerbase hasn't made SE wary of implimenting a similar job class in future games, though...

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i'm sure it's because the job is a) expensive, b) new(ish), and c) already accepted as useful. if (c) doesn't make sense to you, some of those PUPs you meet who are constantly trying to convince you that PUP is the greatest job in the game are only PUPs in the first place so they can convince people that {unpopular job} is the greatest job in the game.

it's still a bit weird though. (shrug)
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#14 Jun 22 2009 at 2:11 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm pretty happy with the job. It's just every update I look forward to any gear that might make the job a bit better and it seems nothing comes out for RNG or COR. It's like SE hates ranged jobs.

I don't think the job is perfect yet. I think they needed to empower Rogues and Fighters to put them on even footing with Chaos/Hunters/SAM. I think a gilfinder or recycle trait to cover some costs would be cool in the pirate motif. A cheap RACC food for all those colibri parties would be appreciated.

And my biggest peeve of all: Fix the **** hexagun line. Why as a COR am I never using the so called gun of choice for a COR?
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I enjoy to have the rarest job in the game leveled, however is really hard to convince ppl about the "right way" when 90% of that tiny fraction that constitute the Cor community are cheap-asses who learn towards /Whm onry!!!!

Other than that, is great to be rare ^^d /grin

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#16 Jun 22 2009 at 8:52 PM Rating: Default
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A decent amount of damage and super cool buffs, idk why it isn't popular


Least popular because of cost/hastle to get good buffs rolled.

The above quote is wrong, 90% of cor do not do damage. They are /whm in xp pts, they don't pull and their buffs fall short of brds. So, the genpop of ffxi sees brd in a better light if they want to level a support job that isn't a healer.
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#17 Jun 22 2009 at 8:58 PM Rating: Good
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some of those PUPs you meet who are constantly trying to convince you that PUP is the greatest job in the game are only PUPs in the first place so they can convince people that {unpopular job} is the greatest job in the game.


Truly the unique and beautiful snowflakes of Vanadiel are the PUP's.

Unfortunately most of the current crop of COR's are BRDs that want to level something cooler than BRD. The true hardcore COR is a dying breed. We have COR's on my LS but you'll never see them on COR. People levelled it to be a cool support job and not be a BRD and then realized they didn't like being a support job and jumped back to SAM/WAR/PLD/RDM/WHM/DRG/THF or whatever else they preferred.
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I like being the only person in my Limbus shell lotting cor, and one of a few in Dynamis lotting cor. I have 3 +1 from Limbus and 4/5 in Dynamis now. I like not having a lot of competition from other Corsair's when I want to merit.

I don't think the job needs any big changes. I would just like to see some nice utility rolls, such as Chocobo Roll, and to only need one type of card to use any quick draw shot.

Edited, Jun 23rd 2009 5:17am by AngelusLestat
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Wow, COR the least popular?

I saw the Census and then I saw this thread here. Mind you, my COR is my lowest leveled job at 28, and on Shiva, finding a COR that's seeking is pretty rare (usually less than 20 CORs on the server at any given time) but if I see a COR seeking, I will invite that COR.

Trust me, look at some of my 75 jobs, I know all about being on "non-popular" jobs.
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The census tells us the average player makes less than 100k a week. In a best case scenario it would take that player 2 months just to buy all their dice if they spent no money on anything else in game and didn't party at all during that time. Now factor in bullets, gear, food, cards, etc on top of that. It's no wonder corsairs are as rare as we are.
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Also a lot of people dont know what our buffs do our what numbers the COR should be landing. This just feeds the **** CORs invites and spreads false truths that our buffs are just as strong as 2x brr songs or better. Dont get me started on random deal or wild card.

My friends like to merit with me but they usually want me to pull because i sponge to much as cor/rng and soon /war.

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We're already rare for our expense and frenetic style of play and those of us who frequent this forum know that a ton of people with corsair are doing it wrong anyway by cheaping out on decent gear. In short, if Corsair is rare, then a good Corsair is even rarer.

Since I know I'm actually taking care to do my job right, this survey confirms I'm truly a rare breed, a diamond in the rough, a... **** Corsair. I'm as happy as a man with tits in his Tricorne!

Drink up me hearties, yo ho!
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Corsair is one of the main reasons that I kept playing this game as long as I did, and I'm proud to consider it my main job. I love the fact that it lets you do a little bit of everything depending on your setup and what you're fighting. There are so many ways to play the job well, and even despite being a "hybrid" style job, it is still one of the most sought after in the game.
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Hello! Long time lurker first time poster.

I was excited to play COR long before the job ever existed. I had been saying, while leveling SAM, "i hope pirate is a new job... I WANT TO BE A PIRATE!"

SO, in my case, what the job's role in party was never mattered to me i just wanted to be a pirate in a video game.

Also i agree with the "its cool to not have to wait for gear" sentiment. When I'm in a situation where people do actually want to lot on something i need i find myself quite impatient.

This has nothing to do with anything.

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Clearly Kylen's absence from the ranks of the Seagull Phratrie is directly responsible for our poor showing in the census.

All COR demand that he return immediately to shore up the numbers of the few proud and lecherous COR's left in Vanadiel.
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Some day I hope brd or cor becomes a bandwagon job, so I can finally party with them all the time.


For the love of all things good, heck no!

BRD already is a bandwagon job. It gets the most invites to a party and everyone wants a BRD in their party. Then we get princess BRD syndrome and BRDs that don't care about their job and are just lvling it because they can get a free ride to 75.

I don't want to see this happen to COR. If you are going to play any job, please do it the right way or GTFO.
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"its cool to not have to wait for gear" sentiment.


Crimson legs have a longer waitlist than byakkos last I checked, and gl getting salvage gear against every thf on the server(they outnumber every non-mage job) not to mention rng.

Only real situation like this is dynamis, lots of drops for cor go ffa, which is good, imagine if brd af2 had a ballad +1 or 2 item... insane waits for them, but cor get basically a gjillahorn for af2head and not many cors around to want it.

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I guess I'm slightly surprised COR is 20th. I knew it would be among the lowest but figured PUP, SCH and DNC might be lower. I've honestly only seen a DNC75 in a party, event, or w/e once in my entire FF life lol.

It's funny because, at least on Pandy, I've noticed a lot more CORs running around in WG recently. Heck, my salvage shell (probably about 18 ppl total) had FIVE CORs in it though I might be the only one to consider COR a "main" (SAM n COR my 1A and 1B jobs, but i spend far more time on COR these days). Obviously the cost of the job and I also think the unfamiliarity of the job make it a rare pick. Unless you've leveled BRD, you really don't have much of a sense of what COR is like (and even then, the differences are still significant). With most DD or healer jobs (imo), if you've played one, you can play most. The differences between WAR, DRK and DRG aren't that huge in terms of playstyle. Even though BRD is clearly the most COR-like job out there, it's really completely difference in terms of the buff cycle and what the job can do, light years apart.

My question for the people is which job (or jobs) do you think have the largest gap between the really good players and the bad players. Being that we're ont h COR forums, I'd expect many of us would pick COR. Honestly, I think it *might* be the right answer. The ceiling on COR is soooo much higher than most of them have attained. I'd like to consider myself one of the better CORs around in terms of being able to dish out some true damage, being a good puller when needed, being able to /mage and be an invaluable back-up healer and STILL DD, plus knowledge of what rolls to use and when, rolling intelligently to get the most out of my rolls, and using QD to enhance other people's enfeebs. And despite all that, I'm not done yet. Still some gear I need to add (mostly Salvage stuff, enkidu body would be nice too) so I can still get better.

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It's funny because, at least on Pandy, I've noticed a lot more CORs running around in WG recently.


I've also noticed a spike of upcoming COR's on Pandy. As much as I hate saying this, most of them are bandwagon players that want/need to level a BRD job so they pick COR cuz it's not as boring as BRD.
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I can't believe Cor came 20/20 for least popular to level (It hasn't stopped Martial Gun shooting up in price over the last few months). There have been times elveling COR that I've absolutely loved it (especially when I hav'nt been with stupid DD).

As RNG is down in bottom 4 too, I think huge factors come with ppl not liking playing RNG'd jobs (cost is a part of this) and for COR, its 2nd best to RNG for Rng'd dmg. Many ppl just don't understand COR, Many ppl portray it as a crappy job (becasue they are **** at cor themselves. All the ppl that don't DU on 6's don't give the uber buffs (and many of those just DW daggers onry too).

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But unfortunately none of those jobs would do EPEEN DAMAGE without the help of others. Most of those OMGWTF damage moments occur with the help of Chaos, Minuet, March, Haste, Angon, Dia and food.


Except SAM using a GKT. Att and acc buffs do very little and in many instances, nothing to a SAM's epeen gekko dmg. Sam's just need Haste buffs and lots of them.

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"its cool to not have to wait for gear" sentiment.


Crimson legs have a longer waitlist than byakkos last I checked
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The census tells us the average player makes less than 100k a week. In a best case scenario it would take that player 2 months just to buy all their dice if they spent no money on anything else in game and didn't party at all during that time. Now factor in bullets, gear, food, cards, etc on top of that. It's no wonder corsairs are as rare as we are.


No. The census said people on average make ~100k per week. This does not mean full week farming, means doing what you usually do in a week you will get a average of 100k

It is *very* different than making 100k for a full week making money only.
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Some day I hope brd or cor becomes a bandwagon job, so I can finally party with them all the time.


For the love of all things good, heck no!

BRD already is a bandwagon job. It gets the most invites to a party and everyone wants a BRD in their party. Then we get princess BRD syndrome and BRDs that don't care about their job and are just lvling it because they can get a free ride to 75.

I don't want to see this happen to COR. If you are going to play any job, please do it the right way or GTFO.


You probably don't need to worry about COR getting as bad as BRD, remember how hard the flag quest was? my lvl 65 paladin escort died in one hit from everything there! by the end of it, we had only 1-2 silent oils and prism powders left. The BRD flag quest is just a little bit of running around in fairly safe areas. I'd venture to say that BRD is probably the easiest flag quest in the game, but i haven't unlocked every job yet so i can't say for certain.
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#37 Jun 25 2009 at 6:19 AM Rating: Decent
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My question for the people is which job (or jobs) do you think have the largest gap between the really good players and the bad players. Being that we're ont h COR forums, I'd expect many of us would pick COR. Honestly, I think it *might* be the right answer. The ceiling on COR is soooo much higher than most of them have attained. I'd like to consider myself one of the better CORs around in terms of being able to dish out some true damage, being a good puller when needed, being able to /mage and be an invaluable back-up healer and STILL DD, plus knowledge of what rolls to use and when, rolling intelligently to get the most out of my rolls, and using QD to enhance other people's enfeebs. And despite all that, I'm not done yet. Still some gear I need to add (mostly Salvage stuff, enkidu body would be nice too) so I can still get better.


Certainly COR is one of those jobs that could get to 75 naked. You'd still get invites. DD's can't get away with gimpness. They won't get invites ever again. Tanks can for a bit, but if they can't hold hate or take too much damage they won't last long at their job. WHM can get to 75 pretty gimped but there honestly isn't much difference between a gimp WHM and a well geared WHM given the healing caps. BRD can get to 75 gimped but again a well geared BRD isn't much better than a poorly geared BRD. As longs as Lullaby and Finale can land, a BRD is fine.

A COR on the otherhand who gimps himself gives up a lot. Very significant damage potential given all the RACC/RATT/STR/AGI gear we are able to wear. I can get more STR gear for my COR than I can for my RNG (Kirin's Osode aside). Unfortunately the expectation from the playerbase is for COR to buff and pull. It's as if being able to parse 70-80% of a normal DD's output is utterly useless.

So I definitely agree there is a large disparity between good COR"s and bad COR's (personally I put myself squarely in the average COR range as I still don't have all the gear I need to move ahead to the good COR range). And unfortunately there are a lot of bad COR's. Although generally I find they quit playing the job soon after achieving 75.
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My question for the people is which job (or jobs) do you think have the largest gap between the really good players and the bad players. Being that we're ont h COR forums, I'd expect many of us would pick COR.

THF. The gap between good THF and bad THF just dwarfs any other job in the game. I won't even invite a pickup THF.

Crappy COR has limited impact as long as I watch what they are rolling; crappy THF is a waste of a slot.
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THF. The gap between good THF and bad THF just dwarfs any other job in the game. I won't even invite a pickup THF.


Oooh THF. I hadn't even thought of that job (all I ever see them doing these days is farming or pulling in Dynamis). But I agree, there is a big difference between the average SH/AF pants THF and a good THF. And inviting a bad THF is a waste of party space unless you really need TH.


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I'm glad not many people play COR, because then I wouldn't get invited to as many pts.
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THF. The gap between good THF and bad THF just dwarfs any other job in the game. I won't even invite a pickup THF.


Oooh THF. I hadn't even thought of that job (all I ever see them doing these days is farming or pulling in Dynamis). But I agree, there is a big difference between the average SH/AF pants THF and a good THF. And inviting a bad THF is a waste of party space unless you really need TH.


Fixed.

Good THFs can be awesome. But whenever you invite one to merit you will get someone who gets there in full eva gear, heartsnatcher and thief knife.

Id rather have someone that is decent come /thf than lob around a useless idiot for the extra tiny chances at drops.
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#42 Jun 28 2009 at 12:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Going by my dyna shell - there is one guy with COR 75 (who always comes THF as we're short on them) and two more of us with it in the mid-60s so there's minimal competition for AF2 (apart from the other mid-60s guy who decided to lie and say he was 75 so he could get it over people). I'm 3/5 on the set already at level 64.

People don't like buffing jobs basically - while COR's so rare it can stand up against people who want to treat them like dirt, it's still a massive issue within the game balance (and the reason I retired BRD - I got sick of being ordered around like something you'd stepped in by melee). The cost is also a factor - the ammo I don't find hideous - its the sheer number and cost of dice on top of that which really hurts to the point where I know friends quit the job mid 50s and I took a fair break to let my gil recharge.
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#43 Jul 16 2009 at 6:49 AM Rating: Good
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Cor/Rng rocks the **** out of Odin. :)
#44 Jul 16 2009 at 7:41 AM Rating: Good
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700k+ on Dice alone I believe?

Then the 30k or so on Full sets of cards (I always bought 2 stacks of each regardless so I never added this up)

The probably millions in ammo depending on how you use it

Yeah I can see why COR would be least popular.
#45 Jul 16 2009 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
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I would think COR is low for a few reasons.

Cost is obvious.
It came out later than most jobs, and people already had other "main jobs."
While QD solo can be used on many NMs, over all, CORs solo ability lags far behind many other jobs.

I know I only change to COR when its time to do something that COR is needed for. I don't just hang out as COR for normal bs time.

And having less competition for so much cool gear does rock. I cant say i wish more people leveled COR, bullet prices might spike if that ever happens.
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#46 Jul 16 2009 at 8:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah if Steel bullets go any higher (already 200k+) you can guarantee most CORs would stop using it even for just WS/QD purposes.

The only way to solve that..is put COR on more ammo..or make Corsair Bullet's more common.
#47 Jul 16 2009 at 3:10 PM Rating: Decent
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I have 12 pouches of COR ammo I will never use from before we had steel. The enm was easy enough and they were the best. Now They just rot. Maybe i should sell them, but I have been thinking of using them in KC bc.
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#48 Jul 23 2009 at 6:19 AM Rating: Good
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Anyone have a link to the census? I was hoping to read it but can't find it because my hands are cold... (uh, if you think about it, the excuse makes sense)
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#49 Jul 25 2009 at 12:21 PM Rating: Good
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I'll add - there were three people in my LS levelling COR at the moment - all of which are now on hiatus as the dice-aru's gone again... probably sways the census figures down slightly when stuff like that happens (I'd staple them to their desk if I still needed to buy dice).
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#50 Jul 26 2009 at 8:33 PM Rating: Good
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I just wanted to play COR because its a pirate. I can handle getting the bullets, Ill just make my own (alch 60) Ill get smithing/gold smithing up and farm to make as many as can to cut corners. I also got an LS of obscenly rich people to help me out, a few of them the guys I work with.
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