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#1 May 07 2009 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Is it better to equip Wind staff or Light staff for this? Does the AGI bonus enhance the sleep more than the light staff bonus? My guess is the wind staff ensures you to land Light Shot easier but light staff makes the sleep last longer. Idk for sure but i just wanted to know what the consensus is
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#2 May 07 2009 at 12:40 PM Rating: Good
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Rawkuss wrote:
Is it better to equip Wind staff or Light staff for this? Does the AGI bonus enhance the sleep more than the light staff bonus? My guess is the wind staff ensures you to land Light Shot easier but light staff makes the sleep last longer. Idk for sure but i just wanted to know what the consensus is
General consensus is to match the elemental Quick Draw with it's corresponding elemental staff.

Light Shot >> Light staff

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#3 May 07 2009 at 1:25 PM Rating: Good
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It's known the elemntal bonus of the staves boosts damage and is assumed to boost accuracy as well. I've never seen any parsed data to correlate the AGI vs elemental bonus but most COR believe the 10-15 extra elemental acc will be more powerful than 4 or 5 AGI.

I've tried this out in besieged but it's admittedly hard to get the right mobs. Magic resistant mobs resist no matter whether I use staff or max AGI or both. Non-magic resistant mobs take full damage even naked. Need to test on a high level but non-magic resistant mob that resists naked but not with some AGI. Those are hard to find and get enough QD's on to make an assessment.
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#4 May 07 2009 at 2:39 PM Rating: Default
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Admiral Viska wrote:
General consensus is to match the elemental Quick Draw with it's corresponding elemental staff.

Light Shot >> Light staff


Yeah, but Wind/Auster's staff would be the one possible exception, since its +4/+5 AGI makes it unique among the elemental staves by helping ALL QDs. I'd still go with matching staff element to QD element for damaging QDs. Light shot though, you'd be going with the AGI strictly for the QD accuracy to get a sleep to stick.

I've also wondered if perhaps light staff helps sleep duration, but maybe AGI would be a better modifier to get sleep to stick in the first place.

I suspect that on a practical level, there's little difference. But it is an interesting discussion and useful to know to really max out your gear to try sleeping something that really wanted to resist light based sleeps.
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#5 May 07 2009 at 2:56 PM Rating: Default
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Anyone know of any threads on this. I use Wind staff anytime I need to sleep mob, but I know I don't need the extra AGI on all mobs to land it. Doesn't magic accuracy increase the duration of enfeebling spells also? And if it does, I wonder what the ratio is between AGI and that duration. And is it more than the bonus from light staff...im intrigued
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#6 May 07 2009 at 5:53 PM Rating: Good
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Seriously? Matching elemental staves > everything, ever, don't question it because you just look foolish. There is no way that 5 AGI would ever beat 15% magic accuracy.

There's a reason you don't see BLMs casting everything in Aquilo's...

Also, light shot duration can not go past 60 seconds. Just like pluto's doesn't extend sleep duration...
#7 May 07 2009 at 6:39 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, nothing "extends" sleep duration. Resists just lower the duration.

Use light staff.

As to the whole macc question. When I HQed some of my staffs out, I quickly noticed this reduction in resists on HNMs i bring COR to. Like warlock's roll, the effects of macc are obvious when used on HNMs in QD builds.

Play with some staffs and no staff and wind staff for wrong shots on like Ultima. You will never question macc or matching elemental staff acc ever again in reference to QD.
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#8 May 07 2009 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Awesome...thx LordTrey, I will do that
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#9 May 15 2009 at 5:52 AM Rating: Good
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LordTrey wrote:
Play with some staffs and no staff and wind staff for wrong shots on like Ultima. You will never question macc or matching elemental staff acc ever again in reference to QD.


I've never actually seen any formal testing on whether M.Acc. affects QD acc. I believe that it does (which is why I use Denali feet as part of my QD build) but don't really have any proof. Does anybody know of any well done testing on this subject?
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#10 May 15 2009 at 2:21 PM Rating: Decent
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My post 2 up shows how you can test for your self using RDM roll and ultima.

Tossing on warlocks in a moderate resist situation generally floors resists with a rdm in the party on my QDs.


EDIT: I also argue that if anything testing should be done to show that QD isn't effected by MACC and we should assume until that test occurs that QD IS effected by MACC.

Its far more reasonable to assume it does than doesn't. Therefor, proof is required to move to the It doesn't category.

Edited, May 15th 2009 5:23pm by LordTrey
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#11 May 15 2009 at 6:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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LordTrey wrote:
Its far more reasonable to assume it does than doesn't.


Given that this is SE we are talking about, this is a wonderful argument why M.acc probably doesn't affect QD.
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