From Elmer the Pointy and JP Button: http://www.jpbutton.com/?p=2873
12) In one of the threads created for foreign players to post questions, there was a lot of debate about the play style of Japanese Corsairs. People felt they played the job too similarly to Bard, and the topic erupted into the merits of support CORs vs. damage dealing CORs. That said, are there any jobs in particular you feel that foreign players just can’t seem to play right in a party?
A Corsair cannot sustain the high damage output of most front-line attackers, but it can function on par with a Bard in a support role.
Corsair really seems like a mid-line job, but foreign players’ understanding of “mid-line” and Japanese players’ understanding of “mid-line” are completely different. Japanese players carefully consider healing and support and don’t expect much in the damage department. Foreign players think mostly about damage and barely give a passing glance to their abilities as healers and supporters.
Or at least that’s how I feel. By the way, I once saw a foreign Red Mage who wouldn’t even heal. lol
I’m a Corsair myself, and during merit parties it’s most efficient to act as a Bard/healer, so I only go sub-WHM. Sometimes I’ll get invited to be an attacker, but I know we won’t earn merits as fast, so I turn it down. When partying for merits inside Moblin Maze Mongers, I have no complaints about being sub-NIN or sub-RNG. You should be able to adapt to the situation at hand.
I see Corsair as an attacker-type support class. If the situation calls for it, Corsair can function as an additional attacker or healer. So isn’t the most important thing to be able to make that distinction?
If you’re going to invite a Corsair to attack, just invite a Ranger. There’s a lot of freedom with how to use Corsair, so I think both ways have their merits. I just wish people would stop inviting a support job for the sole purpose of attacking.
Isn’t one of the great things about Corsair its ability to adapt to changing circumstances? It all depends on the support job, equipment, enemy and party makeup. I agree with other people who posted in that if you reach 75 by utilizing only a single play-style, then you are not a true master of that job.
If you aim for efficiency, a party with 3 melee w/ Utsusemi, a RDM/WHM (buffer), a BRD/NIN (puller) and a COR/WHM (main healer) is very strong. A lot of Japanese players use merit parties to gather data, and the results of this combination are very good. We try to build solid merit parties that can maximize the amount of Limit points earned in an hour.
Personally, I do think a Buffer/Melee Corsair is good as well. However, wanting to melee in a party low on healing (or not wanting to in a party with sufficient healing) just causes problems. Really, the issue is trying not to limit the functions of a Corsair and realizing it is there to work in tune with the party, not by itself.
This is a really racist post, I seen this originally when it came out and thought the same then. It's really an outrageous statement.
Racism and bigotry is the viewing groups of people as being different *because* they belong to a group. It's all about collectivism and group think. "All of *those people* are ... etc."
What this person is basically saying is he feels that Japanese players are better because they carefully consider healing and support and that "foreign" players do not, presumably because they are less intelligent. Then he goes on to list all the reasons why he feels that way.
The Japaneses word for foreigner (外人) means alien or outsider and it does refer to race and ethnicity not just merely geography or something like that.
It's pretty outrageous to hear someone say this, I mean if we swap around the world foreigner with the word Mexican it would be pretty clear.. I would imagine that a lot of players in Japan would like to use /DD but they don't because of prevailing idiotic theory like this.
The truth of the matter is we can learn a lot from others, there IS NOT one right way to play, myself I prefer /nin but there may be times to use something else like /whm.. I can't think of any off hand.. but there really might.. Making an argument for it by declaring a group of people are less intelligent because they uses something else is absurd.. people who do that should be ostracized.
LordTrey wrote something ugly too.
You don't have to love nukes, but they saved at least 1/2 million American lives that did not have to invade mainland Japan.
That is not true. Japan was beaten, their navy, air force and ability to make war on others ceased to exist at that point. They never even needed to invade, they could have just blockaded them till the government collapsed, it was already happening. Japan even actually surrendered before the bombs dropped on August 6, 1945. Japan had conditionally surrendered to the allies earlier that year with the exact same terms that were later agreed upon by the allies. (Do you know what they wanted? They wanted to make sure that their emperor.. whom was revered as a god.. was not prosecuted for war crimes.. that's it and he never was.)
You don't need to take it from me tho.. listen to your own heart to tell you what's right. Is the eradication of two cities full of men, women, girls, boys, lovers, best friends, grand parents, teachers, shop owners, musicians, and taxi drivers ... good? Stop the collectivism and stop letting people fill your head with garbage about "how it was necessary" .. every time a politician says that.. it means it's NOT necessary (Like Janet Reno said about the government murdering the children of Waco.. it was necessary.. yeah right.)
The murder of civilians and innocent people is never acceptable under any circumstance by anyone ever. You can not kill someone who is not a threat to you no matter who they are. However like the above part, don't be a collectivist.. if you are an American YOU don't need to fell bad about this because YOU didn't drop a bomb on anyone, recognize that you are an individual not a group, not your race, not your nation, you are you, and you are only in control of you, much less the murders of the past or the actions of your leaders. Let those actually responsible burn in hell. Edited, Sep 15th 2009 9:55am by Jadier