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#1 Apr 27 2009 at 5:33 AM Rating: Good
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Every time I get an invite, especially with a BRD in the party this is the first thing that's said:

"COR, switch to /WHM and BRD you're pulling, switch to /NIN"

Now, I know BRDs pull in meritpos but is it really common to be told to go /WHM to just about every meritpo? OR should I just decline that suggestion and stick to /RNG or /NIN? Even outside of meritpos in normal exp (like imp range and on) I can sorta see why /whm could be useful but..they also want me to DD as /WHM...so I'm curious..aside certain events should I just bite the bullet and constantly go /whm..or stick to my guns and go /rng, /war or /nin? It's getting kinda annoying hearing "COR GO /WHM!" every **** party these days >.<
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I must quote your awesome wording of this and insist that this is what you do.
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#3 Apr 27 2009 at 5:53 AM Rating: Good
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I've never gone /whm to and xp party on cor. Ever. And I primarily merit on Cor. In pickup groups. I've had a few ask, and I tell them if they need extra healing I'll go /dnc.
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Definitely stick to your guns. A COR in a meripo should never have to /WHM IMO! lol. When I merit on COR, first I never offer /WHM in my /seacom. I'm not trying to be prideful or anything, but I do pretty **** sweet in meripos, doing what a good COR should be doing. Rolls, QD's, Slugs, and so on. Just do like you said and stick to your guns buddy. You're the COR, the DD and the healer are going to want you period. You run the show! lol
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I have never ever subbed /WHM in meripo and don't see a purpose at all for it.

If they need healing, sub dancer. If they don't (which they shouldn't with a BRD), sub RNG or WAR. If you are pulling, sub NIN. Those are the meripo subs of choice IMO.

/WHM is for events where you need to help out with status cures. And even that is a marginal benefit. For most events I go /RDM to help heal and boost my QD damage.
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If this is one place to play the Princess strategy on your favor for your personal fun and against badly informed player ... this is actually a place to do it, and it is justifiable. If I ever seek as COR, I will put /WHM X into my search comment.

OP has DNC leveled. Actually COR/DNC is pretty good too, better than COR/WHM if they really need backup curing.

(And I refuse to merit as BRD, period. >_>)

The worse way to do merits and event: Been told in your face that "You are my merit and/or End Game event *****."

Edited, Apr 27th 2009 11:06am by scchan
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#7 Apr 27 2009 at 7:58 AM Rating: Good
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My advise is simply to never go as /WHM to meripo. As you can tell the forum is mostly against /WHM and for good reason. /DNC is hands down a more efficient sub in almost every single instance. I'm a huge advocate of /DNC.

If you are going /WHM please leave it for Endgame events, and even then other Sub Jobs are usually more efficient.

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#8 Apr 27 2009 at 8:43 AM Rating: Decent
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scchan, Mercenary Major wrote:
If this is one place to play the Princess strategy on your favor for your personal fun and against badly informed player ... this is actually a place to do it, and it is justifiable. If I ever seek as COR, I will put /WHM X into my search comment.

OP has DNC leveled. Actually COR/DNC is pretty good too, better than COR/WHM if they really need backup curing.

(And I refuse to merit as BRD, period. >_>)

The worse way to do merits and event: Been told in your face that "You are my merit and/or End Game event *****."

Edited, Apr 27th 2009 11:06am by scchan


Yeah..second I hit 75 I had people in LS say "You're my merit/dynamis ***** now." <.<

As for /WHM yeah I never touch it, it just gets annoying being asked/told to switch to /WHM even though in my /seacom I always leave out /whm for my subs. I tend to see the CORs in LS /whm at least for eventing except for one who's always /whm to like..everything lol I dunno why <.< but that's aside the point.

I tend to like /nin since I'm always puller unless the BRD or THF I get pt'd with actually wants to pull for once. I do love my peacemaker though so I don't mind pulling. /DNC I haven't gotten to try yet actually.
#9 Apr 27 2009 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
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I have never ever subbed /WHM in meripo and don't see a purpose at all for it.

If they need healing, sub dancer. If they don't (which they shouldn't with a BRD), sub RNG or WAR. If you are pulling, sub NIN. Those are the meripo subs of choice IMO.

/WHM is for events where you need to help out with status cures. And even that is a marginal benefit. For most events I go /RDM to help heal and boost my QD damage.


^^ That pretty much covers everything.

Not that it will stop people from asking for COR/WHM because they don't know better. Especially with lousy (and lazy) COR who come /WHM so they can pretend to be BRDs.

Note that Japanese in particular will usually expect COR/WHM as a standard sub. I've been in plenty of JP parties and have never come /WHM for an exp/merit party. That being said, I'm willing to put /RNG aside in an effort to make them more comfortable with a proper COR ;). Japanese tend to be very skittish about /RNG and /WAR due to the lack of both (a) healing and (b) damage mitigation through shadows. I'll either /NIN and pull, or /DNC. Though even with Japanese parties, sometimes I'll come /RNG and they tend to be surprised in a positive way.

Baby steps, get a party at a time to see a good COR who isn't /WHM and you'll improve some non-CORs' understanding of the job.

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#10 Apr 27 2009 at 2:07 PM Rating: Good
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Though even with Japanese parties, sometimes I'll come /RNG and they tend to be surprised in a positive way.


I'll never forget the meripo where someone came out in party chat, "Whoa, where did that slug shot come from? We dont have a RNG."

You can change the peoples opinion of the job. Just do your thing and don't let anyone tell you you need /WHM for meripo.
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I'll never forget the meripo where someone came out in party chat, "Whoa, where did that slug shot come from? We dont have a RNG."

You can change the peoples opinion of the job. Just do your thing and don't let anyone tell you you need /WHM for meripo.


You will find less problems with typical "less attentive " players who usually do not check your subjobs unless it is something really nasty like 75WAR/12NIN >_>

The people that are more likely to demand subjobs, even often poorly informed, are self-proclaimed "experts".
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I was told to /nin and pull, but that was for a dragoonburn (kinda fun stuff with peacemaker, since you can pop off the odd shots and land some slugs while still pulling fast enough).
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#13 Apr 27 2009 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
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/NIN for pulling is one thing. It can be done and done well, though it may not be preferable.

/WHM in meritpo is a complete joke. /DNC fufills /WHM's purpose perfectly without having to give up gear for MP. You just gear like you would on /RNG. Only downside is /DNC will eat into your damage over time just a bit, but I'd say that's worth the tradeoff in most cases. Plus the evasion down Step alleviates the need to Roll Hunter's a lil bit.

By and large, you're going to find the general community is just plain ignorant to what a COR can do. They see all these CORs running around /WHM and they think that's what you're supposed to do.

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#14 Apr 28 2009 at 4:24 AM Rating: Good
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I've only ever been asked to /whm once. Got a /tell saying "What level's your whm", I replied "38". They said "Ok, come cor/whm please", and I replied "No thanks". A minute or two later they said to come whatever sub I was on at the time, probably /rng. Turned out it was a brd, DDx3, dnc party on Colibri. It disbanded a little while later anyway when a couple of people had to leave.

Other than that, I've not been told to go any particular sub job.
#15 Apr 28 2009 at 5:42 AM Rating: Decent
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By and large, you're going to find the general community is just plain ignorant to what a COR can do. They see all these CORs running around /WHM and they think that's what you're supposed to do.


There are two type ignorance:

1) They simply do not know, so often if you do things differently (but it works) they do not care. Usually this type of ignorance is far easier to deal with, because you can at least reason and explain with them. They will more likely to listen.

2) The worse type is that people who actually do know something, but not too much. They go Vana'diel pundit mode, and let their desire E-Peen to boast they know more than they actually do. Their E-Peen demands them that even if an alternative working suggestion is made, those must be wrong so their E-Peen can get larger.
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