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#1 Apr 18 2009 at 6:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I"m sure this is SOMEWHERE on the fourms, but i'm beyond too lazy to look for it...

But I have COR sitting at level 6. And I really think I want to start leveling it, at least to 20 to see how much I like it.

My question is, with the bare minimum in gear (Until level 20) how much should I expect to spend in ammo and gear? And then to 37 with the more high end gear.


Also; Would it be worth it, to level up my alchemy skill to produce my own ammo?
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#2 Apr 18 2009 at 7:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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COR is not any different than a BRD for the first 20 levels really. You probably wont even be doing all that much shooting even with the new lower level guns and ammo.

It wasn't until almost level 30, when I got my first Hexagun, that my damage and my business picked up.


Early levels of COR are very cheap, again very similar to BRD. However, after 30, you will start to notice a pinch in the pocketbook as bullet prices start to hit you and Dice prices get higher. At 26 your dice are going to start costing 5 digits, at 40 your dice will be over 40k and still climbing. Ammo (which you should probably be going through around a stack or two per level in the 30s) will cost you around 6-8k a stack.

Early guns are extremely overpriced until you get to the Mars Hexagun, and even then you will probably strive for the +1 versions as they have better +Accuracy on them, so expect to pay over 100k per gun.

Armor is one of the few areas that we don't shell out for in the early levels thankfully. Even at 30, a full set of Noct +1 will come in less than 100k. Accessories also shouldn't hurt too bad unless you are going for super gear like Emperor Hairpin and Peacock Charm.



All in all, you won't get a true justification of the cost of being a COR until after level 40 when you have to maintain Bullets, Cards, and Dice are slowly creeping up to 6 digits in cost.


Edit: As far as leveling Alchemy, you will also need to level Goldsmithing and Smithing to make bullets. It may be worthwhile early on if you farm your own materials, but it will cut into your leveling time if that concerns you. Just for regular Bullets (good from 22-35 unless you skip Paktong) will take 41 Alchemy and 18 Goldsmithing. Paktong Bullets require mid 70s Alchemy and mid teens Smithing and are good until Iron Bullets at level 50 which require 45 Alchemy and 22 Smithing (so good reason to skip Paktong if you dont want to level Alchemy too high). Finally, Steel Bullets will take almost 50 Alchemy and 30 Smithing.

To be honest, unless bullets are rare on your server, or if you really want to take up Alchemy, Smithing, and Goldsmithing, if you have a way to make around 30k or more an hour for farming, you will probably be better off just buying the ammo. Just my opinion on the that though.

Edited, Apr 18th 2009 10:07pm by Mjrna
#3 Apr 18 2009 at 7:56 PM Rating: Good
gear usually up until 30 is meh on most jobs in the first place, however you will want to make sure (especially now with all the new choices) you stay on top of the guns and ammo. There are some new great options.

The short answer to your questions, since I myself am feeling just as lazy and don't feel like digging up the threads that have the specific answers you're looking for...

WordlessThrenody wrote:

My question is, with the bare minimum in gear (Until level 20) how much should I expect to spend in ammo and gear? And then to 37 with the more high end gear.


a lot, then a lot more


WordlessThrenody wrote:

Also; Would it be worth it, to level up my alchemy skill to produce my own ammo?


It wouldn't hurt, but it's still going to cost a decent amount either path you take.
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#4 Apr 18 2009 at 10:21 PM Rating: Decent
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This is not what I wanted ot hear. lol..

I've very interested in leveling COR but i dont have the means to shell out all that much for it... I've never been big on crafting....

I suck at farming...

I think i'ma just.... stick to bard or something...

I love to be a support role in a pt... but i also love to DD... There needs to be a cheaper method.. lOl
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#5 Apr 18 2009 at 11:54 PM Rating: Good
I'm going to try and be nice and minimal about this.


WordlessThrenody wrote:
i dont have the means to shell out all that much for it...


Not the job for you for sure


WordlessThrenody wrote:
I've never been big on crafting....


x2

WordlessThrenody wrote:

I suck at farming...


x3

WordlessThrenody wrote:

I think i'ma just.... stick to bard or something...


ding!

WordlessThrenody wrote:
There needs to be a cheaper method.. lOl


/whm ... and no, don't you dare! :p
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#6 Apr 19 2009 at 8:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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yeah, if you don't have a decent bank-balance or income then corsair is gonna make you pretty miserable, either by forcing you to make money more than you'd like, or by not having the right gear and/or rolls etc., and hence, being really sucky at the job. Sorry.
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#7 Apr 19 2009 at 8:14 AM Rating: Good
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WordlessThrenody wrote:
I suck at farming...

Anyone can farm to fund this job.. I farmed the **** out of Giddeus bees when I was a mid-level Corsair. Whether you're actually willing to, that's another story.
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#8 Apr 19 2009 at 8:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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Here's what I like doing: gardening wildgrass seeds. Wildgrass + water crystals + 10 pots = approximately 25k every 5-ish days. If you have more than one character, it becomes even better. (With 4 characters, that could come out to around 600k per month.)

And the best part is, you sell the results (except crystals) to NPCs so you don't need to worry about dealing with the AH.

So if you do that on several characters and level slowly, while also selling the random things you get while leveling, you should be able to fund COR just fine.

Alternatively, if you like the idea of support+DD hybrid, you could try DNC.

Edit: Miel's post was attacked by strangely capitalized letters. It is now in stable condition and is expected to make a full recovery.

Edited, Apr 19th 2009 9:55am by Miel
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#9 Apr 19 2009 at 9:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Miel wrote:
Edit: Miel's post was attacked by strangely capitalized letters. It is now in stable condition and is expected to make a full recovery.

This smells of cardian foul play!
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#10 Apr 19 2009 at 12:29 PM Rating: Default
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I've done some reading... And I've spoken to a few COR's ingame...

Now more than ever I want to level it. I'm sitting on 250k atm which by the sounds of it should get me to... 30 or so... without any major issues. I've got a few other things I don't need that I can sell to help fund it.

The idea of supporting the party, and dishing out some decent damage is absolutly appealing to me.

I've got THF @60... So despite my dislike of farming, it should be realitivly easy. I just have no idea WHAT to farm anymore.

I'm gonna do it.... But on a side note....

I see a LOT of 75 cor's using level 22 bullets... is this really OK to do for RA spam? and then buy more high end bullets for WS? If thats the case... Then i dont see an ammo problem in my future... I'll start leveling alchemy tonight.
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#11 Apr 19 2009 at 2:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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I see a LOT of 75 cor's using level 22 bullets... is this really OK to do for RA spam?


NO! no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no. NO!

On a lighter note, pleas slap them.
#12 Apr 19 2009 at 2:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Some will hate me for saying this, but go COR/DNC and melee then you won't spend that much on bullets.
#13 Apr 19 2009 at 3:07 PM Rating: Default
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LOL! I didn't think that was really... acceptable...

and Cor/dnc... I think... {No thanks.}
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#14 Apr 19 2009 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Cor/dnc is fantastic for xp, especially with a m. kris or joytoy. Your doing damage healing and buffing you're your own lil' party.
#15 Apr 19 2009 at 6:07 PM Rating: Good
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If you wanna limit the cost but still remain an effective (if not impressive) COR, you absolutely need either a joyeuse or an m.kris. I have a joyeuse from my old school WAR/NIN days. Never used an m. kris myself. 3M kinda a lot for those plus the DMG on it is just so low. But at 75, COR's dagger skill lvl is 16 higher than it's sword lvl so it has that going for it.

To limit costs a lil, I used to (before joyeuse), shoot for tp with iron bullets and WS with steel bullets. With joyeuse, i just use steel full-time now (though I do still have a stack of cheaper bullets just in case leaden salute ever comes up (which it usually doesnt) :P.
#16 Apr 19 2009 at 6:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm not too worried about the higher levels...

I'm focusing on my costs up to that point. I'm sure along the road I'll manage to come across methods of farming or whatnot to bring in the money flow.
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#17 Apr 20 2009 at 8:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Spikido of the Seven Seas wrote:

WordlessThrenody wrote:
There needs to be a cheaper method.. lOl


/whm ... and no, don't you dare! :p


Even /whm, you should be shooting and using QD. Tossing out some -na spells or a curaga here and there does not mean you shouldn't be shooting and QDing. I'm keeping /whm on par so that I can use it if need be, but I'll be damned if I come to a PT /whm AND I'm not shooting. Otherwise, your PT wants a brd.
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#18 Apr 20 2009 at 9:58 AM Rating: Good
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WordlessThrenody wrote:
I'm sure along the road I'll manage to come across methods of farming or whatnot to bring in the money flow.

If you truely enjoy COR then the farming to support the cost isn't so bad. COR is not nearly as expensive at 75.

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#19 Apr 20 2009 at 10:53 AM Rating: Good
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I see a LOT of 75 cor's using level 22 bullets... is this really OK to do for RA spam?


NO! no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no. NO!

On a lighter note, pleas slap them.


Well, it should be noted that there are SOME situations where normal lv22 Bullets are just fine. Say, pulling with a Peacemaker and using Quick Draw for Light Shot sleeps. If someone who didn't really understand the job just checked a lv75 COR who was pulling with that setup, they might not realize why it's perfectly OK in that situation.

That being said, it wouldn't surprise me with some of the crappy CORs I see if they're fulltiming Bullets for everything and gimping themselves.

You need to upgrade to AT LEAST Iron Bullets for normal ranged attacks once you can do so. Steel Bullets, once available, are a must for WS and damaging Quick Draws, but it's not completely unreasonable for a COR to shot Iron for regular /ra. Lv.22 Bullets for normal /ra, WS, or damage QD once you have better bullet options is unacceptable.

WordlessThrenody wrote:
I think i'ma just.... stick to bard or something...


Yep, sounds like that's a much better option for you. And I respect you for understanding what you want to do and coming here for advice a lot more than I respect someone who's going to play COR in a crappy war (i.e. COR/WHM who doesn't shoot). COR isn't for everyone and that's fine. But understand that if you can't cope with the high ammo costs, COR probably isn't your thing.

Edited, Apr 20th 2009 2:54pm by Anza
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#20 Apr 20 2009 at 11:47 AM Rating: Good
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Say, pulling with a Peacemaker and using Quick Draw for Light Shot sleeps.


Pullling with Peacemaker yes. Quick Draw, it doesn't matter what bullet you use for Light/Dark shots, as it never consumes a bullet, only cards.

Also useful for Leaden Salute, as the formula is unaffected by bullet choice.
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