Forum Settings
       
« Previous 1 2
Reply To Thread

Charged WHisker Help!Follow

#1 Dec 06 2011 at 9:55 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
31 posts
I have been doing more CW cleaving with another Bluemage in my shell. Currently the two of us can decimate pretty much more things we work on in CW. What I am looking for is input, advice, or guidance from this eclectic community to help me refine my CW. As always I am Blu/RDM. I have rdm to 91 and have have full blue magic merits, capped blue magic, I am pretty sure I am also caped on elemental magic merits, with full mp merits ( if that helps).

Atma
Lion
Ultimate (No Baying moon still working on it, still a good choice)
Beyond

If I am duo then I will sub in MM for Ultimate for MP, since I don't have to do the majority of the load of dmg.

GEAR
Main: Jupiter's Staff (Had to get it)
Sub: Spear strap for the dex on it
Ammo: Using the Blue ammo:
Head: The Af head
Neck: Uggalepih Pendant
Ear: Moldy, Laq (I'm working on getting Hecate's Earring, I know already)
Body: Mostly using my +1 Af body (Looking getting a loki, ******* sword wont give it up)
Hands: The +1 AF3 hands
Rings: Spiral and the raja (For the dex mods)
Back: Nifty Mantle
Waist: Warworlf
Legs: +2 AF3 legs
Feet: Currently using the AF3+1 feet.

Traits
With /rdm I also set the magic attack trait, and try to set Fast cast trait also if I am CW solo helps lots with the Laq on.

Spells
Enveration
Fantod
CW
Whirl of Rage
Dream Flower
Frypan
Mento Mori
Applification
Thermal Pulse (In case i need to finish them off and whirl does not do the job.)
Battery charge (For when not using MM, /rdm fresh seem weaker maybe just me.)

Battle
After the pull we have gotten in the habit of Whirl, then Dream Flower. This is followed by Using a combination of 2 of these spells Fantod, amplification, Memento Mori.
Enveration cast on mobs, popping the Burst Affinity then CW. Then spamming Whirl ( mostly takes out last few, Dream Flower and Thermal if needed. Then praying for a ISL to reset all traits and refill MP and the like.

Hope I did not leave anything out. Let me know if I did. Thx again in advance to reading and any advice i can have on gear or the like.
____________________________
When the world ends, and the darkness rises. I will step from the shadows and slay the evil from within!
Mysticmaker Profblix 1/2 Dune WIdow 1/4
95BST/99BLU/99SAM TP/ WS/92RDM
#2kimjongil76, Posted: Dec 06 2011 at 10:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Why you not use Atma of the Binding Horn?
#3 Dec 06 2011 at 11:02 PM Rating: Excellent
Scholar
**
312 posts
kind of the "teach a man to fish" thing here.

charged whisker info

this is probably best page on here for this. goes over possible mobs, gear sets, spells to set, etc. like charged whisker'ing 101.

the first thread i saw for CW

another one from when charged whisker was new.
____________________________
99war 99mnk 96whm 99blm 90rdm 99thf 85pld 99bst 99brd 99drg
99blu 99pup 60sch 99dnc 99nin 99sam
50/50 glavoid shells
50/50 itz scales
6/75 orthrus claws
#4 Dec 07 2011 at 12:53 AM Rating: Good
***
2,180 posts
I'm not going to point out everything, but you don't need to set traits you're already getting from your support job.
____________________________
Louverance: You should spend your next life as a friar, my friend!
Later...
Meransarget: Oh, herro there.
#5Nectorus, Posted: Dec 07 2011 at 1:22 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) set the traits to try to boost the effects them with the traits from rdm.
#6 Dec 07 2011 at 2:27 AM Rating: Good
**
824 posts
They don't stack, setting MAB when /RDM is doing nothing for you.
____________________________
rdmcandie wrote:
RDM can attain an almost static 50% reduction to recast time, SCH can over shoot this for a total of 60% reduction under Alacrity (provided you are wearing loafers and keeping dark weather on yourself)

rdmcandie wrote:
MACC is a joke, any job with access to mage gear can hit close the MACC cap on legion mobs, which is why my BRD/RDM can land slow/para/blind despite having only 150 skill (from /RDM.)
#7 Dec 07 2011 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
Scholar
Avatar
***
1,089 posts
Other then more dex gear thats about what i do only this is my attack pattern

Sleep mobs
Sound blast
Memento mori
enervation
azure lore, CA, BA, Eff
CW
WoR
Win
Having another sleepga set can be handy for stragglers
adding in plenilune for MAB or an ascetics can help

Most important AQUAVEIL!!!!
____________________________
SSubZero wrote:

MNK: "OK we're gonna go in and get those items."
WHM: "Did you have a plan?"
MNK: "Plan? I was going to walk through the front door and start punching people."
#8 Dec 07 2011 at 12:49 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
**
312 posts
peimei wrote:

Sleep mobs
Sound blast
Memento mori
enervation
azure lore, CA, BA, Eff
CW
WoR
Win
Having another sleepga set can be handy for stragglers
adding in plenilune for MAB or an ascetics can help

Most important AQUAVEIL!!!!


CA, Eff
WoR
actinic burst
sleep
enervation
memento
BA
CW


i wouldnt rely on temps too much. if you dont get a temp chest in your group then you wont have it for your next try and if youre relying on that, it could be a problem. if you do memento before enervation, ive seen memento wear off before you get the spell off.
Quote:
GEAR
Main: Jupiter's Staff
Sub: Spear strap for the dex on it
Ammo: Using the Blue ammo (get the dex+ sachet)
Head: The Af head (aias bonnet, or there is a 6dex 6agi head on ah)
Neck: Uggalepih Pendant (i use shifting since i dont want to deal with the requirements of that)
Ear: Moldy, Laq (get rid of the laq. cast time on CW should be your smallest concern. if nothing else, get a dex earring)
Body: Mostly using my +1 Af body (im pretty sure teal beats this)
Hands: The +1 AF3 hands
Rings: Spiral and the raja (get the dex ring. the +7 is prefered. if gil is an issue, do gold chests in kont for dark rings)
Back: Nifty Mantle
Waist: Warworlf (thiazi belt. +7dex in kont from nm or buy it. i think its under 50k on most servers)
Legs: +2 AF3 legs
Feet: Currently using the AF3+1 feet.

Quote:
Atma
Lion
Ultimate
Beyond (blinding horn buts its kind of a pain to get)


Quote:
Spells
Enveration
Fantod
CW
Whirl of Rage
Dream Flower
Frypan
Mento Mori
Applification (doesnt stack with memento)
Thermal Pulse (dont need. concentrating on making CW will yield better results than worrying about if it doesnt work.)
Battery charge (considering your entire pull and kill should be done in about 2 mins and most of that time is spent running, this spell does little to help)


id add plasma charge, head ****, blitzstrahl, battle dance, goblin rush, regurgitation, cocoon, dream flower. im not online right now so cant tell what spells i usually use. your goal is to pull and kill a group of mobs with 1 WoR and 1 CW. really well geared blu's can do it in 1CW. most blu's can do it in 1WoR 1 CW. you seem to be worrying about what if CW doesnt kill them and planning for that which is lessening how well your first plan does. you WILL kill them first try and plan for that. if it doesnt work, repeat the process you just did.
____________________________
99war 99mnk 96whm 99blm 90rdm 99thf 85pld 99bst 99brd 99drg
99blu 99pup 60sch 99dnc 99nin 99sam
50/50 glavoid shells
50/50 itz scales
6/75 orthrus claws
#9 Dec 07 2011 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
Avatar
***
1,089 posts
figster wrote:
if you do memento before enervation, ive seen memento wear off before you get the spell off.



Hmmm Enervation seems to wear off long before memento does for me.

Either way figster is right focus on maximizing your CW damage which means Dex everywhere followed by MAB then INT
I use RR Beyond and Lion for atmas as they're the best I have and I average just under 5000 unresisted on most mobs.
Thats with a 'decent' gear set.
____________________________
SSubZero wrote:

MNK: "OK we're gonna go in and get those items."
WHM: "Did you have a plan?"
MNK: "Plan? I was going to walk through the front door and start punching people."
#10 Dec 07 2011 at 3:42 PM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
****
4,419 posts
Peimei wrote:
Hmmm Enervation seems to wear off long before memento does for me.

Either way figster is right focus on maximizing your CW damage which means Dex everywhere followed by MAB then INT
I use RR Beyond and Lion for atmas as they're the best I have and I average just under 5000 unresisted on most mobs.
Thats with a 'decent' gear set.


I'll likely be going on a Blinding Horn Atma run in the next week or so (for an upcoming BLU in my LS), if you want to tag along, Peimei. BH makes a pretty big difference over Beyond in my experience.
____________________________
Aliekber
RDM BLU SCH DRG PLD BLM NIN WHM
Linkshell: CrimsonMercenaries Server: Carbamesh

Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
Human (?) females look ugly.
Post in /K/ where the orbital laser system is now online.
#11 Dec 07 2011 at 4:40 PM Rating: Good
**
824 posts
Quote:
Hmmm Enervation seems to wear off long before memento does for me.


I'm not sure why anyone here is advocating Memento Mori; Ascetic's Tonic gives MAB+25 (compared to MM's MAB+20), lasts 5 minutes (compared to MM's 30s max), and they do not stack. 5 minutes is long enough for two pulls, much more than enough to find another box of temps for another Ascetic's.

Same thing for Actinic Burst, it's just a wasted cast. There's absolutely no reason why you should ever be interrupted while casting Whirl of Rage > Dream Flower. If you want to set it as an ******* button in case you WoR too soon or something that's fine, but casting it every pull is just wasting time.

As for the rest of the spells.. 90% of the time they're just wasted casts as well, assuming you're using the proper atmas (BH/Lion/Ultimate) and have a baseline-to-decent CW set.

My pulls go like so:
>Occultation/Cocoon/Phalanx/Aquaveil/Stoneskin (We're talking real, maxed out, item-boosted Stoneskin here, not that Diamondhide nonsense.)
>Pull
>CA+Efflux+Whirl of Rage
>BA+Charged Whisker
>If anything somehow survives: Battle Dance, Frypan, whatever.
>Spam key macro
>Repeat

The less spells you cast, the faster they die, the faster they repop, the faster you get boxes, the faster you finish whatever it is you're doing; Atmas are not hard, baseline CW gear is dirt cheap from AH.
____________________________
rdmcandie wrote:
RDM can attain an almost static 50% reduction to recast time, SCH can over shoot this for a total of 60% reduction under Alacrity (provided you are wearing loafers and keeping dark weather on yourself)

rdmcandie wrote:
MACC is a joke, any job with access to mage gear can hit close the MACC cap on legion mobs, which is why my BRD/RDM can land slow/para/blind despite having only 150 skill (from /RDM.)
#12 Dec 07 2011 at 5:49 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
****
4,419 posts
LyltiaofLakshmi wrote:
I'm not sure why anyone here is advocating Memento Mori; Ascetic's Tonic gives MAB+25 (compared to MM's MAB+20), lasts 5 minutes (compared to MM's 30s max), and they do not stack. 5 minutes is long enough for two pulls, much more than enough to find another box of temps for another Ascetic's.


It depends. If I've got a keywhore mule with me, then I'll usually use Ascetic's, but if I'm by myself and the target won't require Ascetic's, then I'll usually pop MM just so I don't have to go back for more keys as often.

LyltiaofLakshmi wrote:
Same thing for Actinic Burst, it's just a wasted cast. There's absolutely no reason why you should ever be interrupted while casting Whirl of Rage > Dream Flower. If you want to set it as an oh-sh*t button in case you WoR too soon or something that's fine, but casting it every pull is just wasting time.


This I can get behind.

LyltiaofLakshmi wrote:
My pulls go like so:
>Occultation/Cocoon/Phalanx/Aquaveil/Stoneskin (We're talking real, maxed out, item-boosted Stoneskin here, not that Diamondhide nonsense.)
>Pull
>CA+Efflux+Whirl of Rage
>BA+Charged Whisker
>If anything somehow survives: Battle Dance, Frypan, whatever.
>Spam key macro
>Repeat


Wouldn't it be faster/safer to just do BA+CA+Efflux+WoR > CW? That way, you're not using your "stun time" to use BA+CW, you're just casting CW immediately.

Personally, I tend to do it like this:

>Occultation/Cocoon/Phalanx/Aquaveil/Stoneskin
>Pull
>Dream Flower
>Memento Mori/Ascetic's*
>CA+Efflux+BA+Charged Whisker (all but 1-2 mobs are dead at this point)
>Whirl of Rage (to kill stragglers)
>If anything somehow survives: Battle Dance, Frypan, whatever.
>Spam key macro
>Repeat

*If it's something easy like Chigoes I don't bother with buffs.

I do this (meaning the sleep) because it's lazier and requires me to pay less attention (important when I'm going to spend 3+ hours cleaving for Sobek sets in Misareaux), and thus is probably a better method for those starting out with CWing. Even if it takes 10 seconds longer per pull, I don't get burned out from doing it since it requires so little attention, so I can last much longer and build more pop sets in an evening (which is the ultimate goal of most of my cleaving). YMMV, but it's served me well.

Edit: I guess the main difference is, I'm not looking at how fast I can do a pull, I'm looking at how many I can do before I burn out for the evening. If I keep from getting burned out and stay 12 minutes longer (assuming 3 minutes per pull baseline, a 3 hour base session, and a 10 second increase in kill time per pull from the lazy mthod), then I've gotten 1 more pull done than I would if I pushed myself and stopped exactly at the 3 hour mark due to burnout.

TL;DR

Edited, Dec 7th 2011 5:03pm by Aliekber
____________________________
Aliekber
RDM BLU SCH DRG PLD BLM NIN WHM
Linkshell: CrimsonMercenaries Server: Carbamesh

Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
Human (?) females look ugly.
Post in /K/ where the orbital laser system is now online.
#13 Dec 07 2011 at 6:21 PM Rating: Decent
**
824 posts
Quote:
It depends. If I've got a keywhore mule with me, then I'll usually use Ascetic's, but if I'm by myself and the target won't require Ascetic's, then I'll usually pop MM just so I don't have to go back for more keys as often.


Eh, way I see it there's only three reasons I'm Whisker farming in the first place; EXP for others, boxes for feet/augmented items, or boxes for KIs, and for two of the three there's always a keyer present; personally I'm done farming for feet/augments (18 hours for 2 hairpins = done forever >.>) but if you're soloing I'll agree that MM has a place.

Quote:
Wouldn't it be faster/safer to just do BA+CA+Efflux+WoR > CW? That way, you're not using your "stun time" to use BA+CW, you're just casting CW immediately.


I've just found CA/Efflux/WR and BA/CW to result in the highest amount of consistent damage, reducing the instances where there's stragglers after Whisker fires.

As for the timing, one more second to use BA before Whisker is always worth it, as all that DEX gear isn't doing nearly as much for you without it. Personally, I went and edited the pre/mid/aftercast times on CW, and have castdelays set so that I'm wearing full PDT- up to the moment the spell actually fires, so it's not really an issue... honestly I could probably get away with not casting Aquaveil, as mobs have a hard time punching through a 450 Stoneskin backed by Phalanx, Cocoon, and PDT-50, but meh, it's a zero-cost safety net since you recast while waiting on repops so might as well.

Oh and eat food with Killer effects / wear gear with Killer effects (Flawless Ribbon) where applicable, is good times.
____________________________
rdmcandie wrote:
RDM can attain an almost static 50% reduction to recast time, SCH can over shoot this for a total of 60% reduction under Alacrity (provided you are wearing loafers and keeping dark weather on yourself)

rdmcandie wrote:
MACC is a joke, any job with access to mage gear can hit close the MACC cap on legion mobs, which is why my BRD/RDM can land slow/para/blind despite having only 150 skill (from /RDM.)
#14 Dec 07 2011 at 7:32 PM Rating: Good
Scholar
Avatar
***
1,089 posts
Aliekber send me a tell when you're setting up that run I'd love to get that atma and can probably get another blu or two that needs it as well.
____________________________
SSubZero wrote:

MNK: "OK we're gonna go in and get those items."
WHM: "Did you have a plan?"
MNK: "Plan? I was going to walk through the front door and start punching people."
#15figster, Posted: Dec 07 2011 at 9:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) really? 8 shadows when you pull 20 mobs? not gonna save you and its mp cost is ridiculous along with long cast time. ill take my actinic burst over your occulation and i wouldnt suggest occulation for anyone starting out.
#16 Dec 07 2011 at 9:59 PM Rating: Good
**
824 posts
Quote:
not gonna save you


Neither will Cocoon, nor Phalanx, nor Stoneskin, nor Aquaveil. It is the confluence of all these buffs that save you.

Quote:
its mp cost is ridiculous


Using no MP gear (besides incidentals on idle/casting gear) with no MP merits, I always have more than enough MP to cast the aforementioned spells and have plenty left over. If you're pulling 20+ mobs at once, there is absolutely no reason to ever start out without full MP between temp MP meds, ISLs, and gold box temps.

Quote:
along with long cast time.


Given that there is a set time on mob respawns and you can still open boxes while casting, there is precisely zero cost in time to casting Occultation.

In case you hadn't figured it out, Occultation is used to deflect the few stray hits you may take while pulling to preserve your Stoneskin for when it matters. Casting a free spell between repops in no way compares to wasting time during a pull casting Actinic Burst, which is doing precisely nothing for you when you open with Whirl of Rage as you should.

Edited, Dec 7th 2011 11:23pm by LyltiaofLakshmi
____________________________
rdmcandie wrote:
RDM can attain an almost static 50% reduction to recast time, SCH can over shoot this for a total of 60% reduction under Alacrity (provided you are wearing loafers and keeping dark weather on yourself)

rdmcandie wrote:
MACC is a joke, any job with access to mage gear can hit close the MACC cap on legion mobs, which is why my BRD/RDM can land slow/para/blind despite having only 150 skill (from /RDM.)
#17 Dec 07 2011 at 10:04 PM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
****
4,419 posts
Well, you can cast Occultation while you're waiting for the mobs to repop, so it doesn't take away from your speed at all. And hey, 8 negated hits is still 8 negated hits worth of damage. Might as well, if you can afford the MP (and if you're doing well at all, you can).
____________________________
Aliekber
RDM BLU SCH DRG PLD BLM NIN WHM
Linkshell: CrimsonMercenaries Server: Carbamesh

Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
Human (?) females look ugly.
Post in /K/ where the orbital laser system is now online.
#18 Dec 07 2011 at 10:06 PM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
****
4,419 posts
Peimei wrote:
Aliekber send me a tell when you're setting up that run I'd love to get that atma and can probably get another blu or two that needs it as well.


Will do.
____________________________
Aliekber
RDM BLU SCH DRG PLD BLM NIN WHM
Linkshell: CrimsonMercenaries Server: Carbamesh

Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
Human (?) females look ugly.
Post in /K/ where the orbital laser system is now online.
#19 Dec 08 2011 at 12:35 AM Rating: Good
***
2,180 posts
Aliekber wrote:
Personally, I tend to do it like this:

>Occultation/Cocoon/Phalanx/Aquaveil/Stoneskin
>Pull
>Dream Flower
>Memento Mori/Ascetic's*
>CA+Efflux+BA+Charged Whisker (all but 1-2 mobs are dead at this point)
>Whirl of Rage (to kill stragglers)
>If anything somehow survives: Battle Dance, Frypan, whatever.
>Spam key macro
>Repeat
____________________________
Louverance: You should spend your next life as a friar, my friend!
Later...
Meransarget: Oh, herro there.
#20 Dec 12 2011 at 1:26 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
**
452 posts
Tried CW farming out in Vunk last night used the following

Aug Firmament for Whirl of Rage
Aug Firmament for Dream Flower
Jupiter Staff for CW

Head AF3+1
Body AF3+1
Hands AF3+2
Legs AF3+1
Feet Af3+1
Mavi Ammo
Rings/ER nothing special - Etheral, Brutal, Spiral, Addler

Atmas used Minikin, Baying Moon and Ultimate

Durings Lightnings Day used Twlight Cape and Obi, Was able to hit max CW at this time of ~4300

This was mostly a can we do this, I was on Ninja and partner was on Blu/Rdm. I needed 200 demons killed and she still needed a few shoes from Vunkerl and Mortal Ray. So we did Tarus

I did the pulling on Nin, So she just buffed and this ended up being the best order for us.
Pull to camp,
I was running a dagger and Sea Daughter on Nin, So I would Aeolian Edge, while the Blu did this:

Chainafinity & Efflux right before pull gets to camp
Whirl of Rage
Dream Flower
Memento Mori
Burst Affinity
Charged Whisker
Usually killed 7 of 8 mobs
last mob would have a sliver left.
Results were about 6-800 on Whirl and 33-3500 on Charged Whisker.

During Lightings day with the Cape and Obi, my Ninjas Aeolian Edge was not needed to kill most mobs.
PLus we can improve her gear a lot more, but this worked for us.

#21 Dec 13 2011 at 10:18 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
**
452 posts
So just keeping this in the same thread what do people thing about this cape:

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Romanus_Cape

I'm thinking dual purpose Sanguine Blade and CW. Since I think 6 Dex was the highest cape I could find and I dare to think that:

4 INT + 4 Magic attack bonus > 6 Dex
#22 Dec 15 2011 at 3:21 AM Rating: Good
***
2,180 posts
Romanus should be better as long as the addle isn't having any impact.
____________________________
Louverance: You should spend your next life as a friar, my friend!
Later...
Meransarget: Oh, herro there.
#23 Dec 25 2011 at 6:28 AM Rating: Decent
Scholar
*
60 posts
Hi guys I just can't seem to get the kind of numbers you guys seems to be. I regularly hit 3900 ish with the odd 4,000 ish hit with cw but people on he are getting 6,000 ish and I just can't seem to, I am using jupiters and full dex set which sits me at about +110 dex with all spells and buffs etc. I am 99 blu with capped magic and joust can't seem to hit those numbers.

I don't have atma of the lion yet, I am using mm, blinding horn and ultimate. Would swapping out mm for lion make that much of a difference to add 2k onto my damage. I just can't seem to hit those numbers. I do everything it says in all the guides on here and peoples suggestions.

Im going to try memento mori before cw and see if that helps. Any other suggestions. I don't think it's the dex I have on, as I am not all that far off a goof dex set and would another 20 dex really make as much diff as that anyway? The only non dex gear I have on is my af3+1 feet and the int/mab back piece.

I can kill almost anything with CW an WoR but wanna just do it with CW only. Thanks for any advice. The above numbers are on tauri in vunkerl ..

Cheers

Edited, Dec 25th 2011 7:30am by runelore

Edited, Dec 25th 2011 7:49am by runelore
____________________________
KATAARO : 75BST - 75BRD - 75RNG - 75WAR - 68BLU

IFRIT SERVER

LS : Eightdeadlysins
#24 Dec 25 2011 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
Sage
***
2,102 posts
runelore wrote:
Hi guys I just can't seem to get the kind of numbers you guys seems to be. I regularly hit 3900 ish with the odd 4,000 ish hit with cw but people on he are getting 6,000 ish and I just can't seem to, I am using jupiters and full dex set which sits me at about +110 dex with all spells and buffs etc. I am 99 blu with capped magic and joust can't seem to hit those numbers.

I don't have atma of the lion yet, I am using mm, blinding horn and ultimate. Would swapping out mm for lion make that much of a difference to add 2k onto my damage. I just can't seem to hit those numbers. I do everything it says in all the guides on here and peoples suggestions.

Im going to try memento mori before cw and see if that helps. Any other suggestions. I don't think it's the dex I have on, as I am not all that far off a goof dex set and would another 20 dex really make as much diff as that anyway? The only non dex gear I have on is my af3+1 feet and the int/mab back piece.

I can kill almost anything with CW an WoR but wanna just do it with CW only. Thanks for any advice. The above numbers are on tauri in vunkerl ..

Cheers


First, Get atma of the lion. I was a bit confused a few weeks ago when my numbers were not going up. Drop Minikin. Its a great atma, but you really don't need it. its holding you back if you are trying to CW burn. Razed Ruins would be better damage than minikin. Otherwise, beyond, or baying moon will give you better damage than minikin also.
That swap will make a considerable difference.

Everyone, check me if I'm wrong here, but I'm pretty sure the MAB and lightning attack+ are multiplying at different places. That is the main reason the jupiters will outdo the mab swords, and why the lightning damage + will outdo things like baying moon or atma of the beyond. The value of +30 is the same, but one is being added to existing mab and the other is a 3rd factor in the damage multiplication.

Priority of stats is this:
DEX (under Burst Affinity) > MAB > INT

I think dex and mab switch places in priority if you are not under burst affinity.

Here's my gear set:
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/208290 (finally went and brewed rani for an earring to complete my set)

jupiter's and a dex grip (don't remember what it's called) will get you a bit more damage, as well as better rings... but its worth the space to me to use the rings I have.

are you using /rdm? thats 24 mab right there. /blm will get if for you also, but /rdm gives you mdb, fast cast, haste, refresh, and cure 4 as well.

You can get the 20 mab bonus from traits anyway, because you will set both memento mori and dream flower, but /rdm is better.

Spells:

You can boost your dex alot w/ spells. Frankly, I've been dropping more and more of my defensive spells lately. I don't take occultation (too expensive). I might take cocoon and metallic body (because the stoneskin will be better than my enhancing skill on /rdm) (though w/ gear and skilling up I might beat it, haven't checked).

Spells I'll actually cast (in order):

Whirl of Rage (2 dex, AoE damage + Stun)
Dream Flower (AoE sleep + MAB)
Sound Blast (Int down on mobs make better damage)
Enervation (mdb down)
Memento Mori (short mab boost +20)
(Burst Affinity)
Charged Whisker

If I'm doing plenty of damage, I'll omit sound blast and enervation for speed.

Spells for other uses (mostly dex):
plasma charge (Dex +3, auto-refresh; maybe Winds of Promyvion instead if need erase)
Actinic burst (auto-refresht, nice oops spell if pull gets funny)
Quadratic Continuum (dex +3 ; I use mab swords so I want dual wield)
Barbed Crescent (DEX 4 and dual wield, nice damage too)
Head **** (dex 2 & stun)
Goblin rush (dex 2)
Blitzstrahl (dex 4 + magical + stun)
Frypan (dex 2 + AoE + Stun)
battle dance (dex 2 & extra AoE damage)
Sudden lunge (dex 1 & stun)


I dont' remember which other spells... not logged in atm... that might be it.


That should do it. 7k build. I know someone else posted this stuff in an earlier thread, specifically to get 7k damage.
____________________________
Server: Bahamut
90BST|90BLU
LS: MONSTERSINC

Choh Moui | Rongo-Nango | Lhu Mhakaracca | Lungo-Nango | Nyumomo
--Beastmaster Forever--
#25 Dec 25 2011 at 1:05 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
*
60 posts
Wow, thanks for the response and advice.

I will get straight on and try it out. I haven't been using and mdb- or enfeebled or any mab boosts such as memento mori yet. Was getting the 4k damage without any of those. I will try everything you have mentioned and see how it goes.

Thanks again, much appreciated!
____________________________
KATAARO : 75BST - 75BRD - 75RNG - 75WAR - 68BLU

IFRIT SERVER

LS : Eightdeadlysins
#26 Dec 25 2011 at 2:17 PM Rating: Default
**
639 posts
Only thing, Now Gates of Hades out damages CW. On average I break over 6k and thats with no temps.

« Previous 1 2
Reply To Thread

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 1 All times are in CDT
Anonymous Guests (1)