New Blu spellsFollow

Straight from SEs level cap increase announcement:

Yesterday, I was looking at the element/MP cost/casting time of the spells added on the test server. I thought one might be Bionic Boost and I was almost right.

I am so excited for quadrastrike!!!!!!

I hope we get to jump in the air when we do this! I remember a kindered drk doing this back inthe day in Castle O (s) and it doing over 2k istantly killing me while farming that NM. He did it to others as wll. But yea we will jump in the air!

Wind breath meth... We have spells like leafstorm and such that do little dmg. Thunderbreath Yes... No dark breath though. Would of been cool.

Amorphic Spikes: cant recall seeing this move ever.



Barbed Crescent: Finaily we can join the formers and still there secret.

Sadly no ufo spell or homing missle.

You haven't done nearly enough nyzul, then.[/quote]


Yea, true, Havent fought puddings in forever. Normely, sleep nuke them. So rarely see them use TP moves due to them casting magic. Regardless the TP move looks great!

Its a shame that they used Bloody Rake instead of Bloody Claw (and thus put the 5 min timer on it)
....but on the other hand this should mean it's much less likely to be nerfed.

Happy to see it's inclusion, nonetheless.

Here's hoping Pyric Bulwark doesn't suck~

Not related to the thread maybe, but I echo your sentiments.

Maybe it's a cyclical thing, and given a decade or two that style will come back in fashion <.<;

After testing, Barbed Crescent is Distortion/Scission, amorphic spikes is piercing with Gravitation/compression. My tests didn't turn up a Level 2 property on Quadrastrike. Just a Liquifaction. It can only be Frag however. Need to test again on higher HP mobs so I can chain spells with 2hr. I hit Azure Lore and Amorphic Spikes did 3800 to the sea peapuk. No idea if that was 2hr or a set proc.

did some quick testing with the breath spells because I was bored;

Wind Breath = 1/4 HP (525 damage with 2100 HP, 2100 being the only not-ugly number I could get); 26 mp, ~30 second recast (no haste/fastcast), very quick casting time. Not .5 seconds but definitely not remotely as long as heat breath/vapor spray/thunder breath. I can't give you an exact because windower and the test server don't get along, so no timestamp.
Vapor Spray = 1/2 HP (1050 damage with 2100 HP, same as heat breath); 176 mp (may be a bit higher, I think I'm off), ~1:23 recast (no haste/fastcast), basically the same casting time as heat breath
Thunder Breath = HP (2100 damage with 2100 HP), 193 MP, ~56 second recast (no haste/fastcast), casting time felt a little longer than heat breath/vapor spray, but w/o time stamp I won't say for sure.

Also, all of their animations are glitched atm, so I can't tell you how cool/lame they look, because they all have the same animation as (I think) whirl of rage. or smite of rage. one of the cursed weapon ws/spells

If I gave enough of a sh*t to lose an inventory slot for a corbenic sword, I'd make like a 30 second macro with awesome party chat and fireworks and job emotes in reference the painfully long animation from FFVII.

Okay, final rundown of Skillchain properties:

Quadrastrike=Impaction/Liquifaction
Amorphic Spikes=Gravitation/Transfixion
Barbed Crescent=Distortion/Scission
Bilgestorm=Darkness/Gravitation
Tourbillion=Light/Fragmentation
Bloodrake=Darkness/Distortion

SO.....

For those of you who've played with them, how do these new spells stack up to our current ones?

Do the new ones make any new traits? or Modify existing ones? (new way for Eva bonus, for Fast Cast, or Acc bonus i hope)

Did they add in Treasure Hunter like they said they would?

What's the HP% conversion on Bloodrake?

Etc.

Quadrastrike is slightly better than goblin rush, slightly worse than QC in terms of damage outside abyssea. Inside, with just razed ruins and no gnarled horn/sanguine scythe, it blows QC out of the water. I was doing 2.5k-3k without CA/efflux using my goblin rush set against NQ mobs. With either CA or efflux it was one-shot-death.

So far I've put one point into requiescat, and outside abyssea it is already on par with the best sword WSes at 100% TP (I don't have CDC.) My favorite thing about it is that it makes darkness with QC.

I have no idea what QQ is to start. Secondly, what's the deal with Azure Lore now? I apparently missed something...

NVM


Edited, Dec 17th 2011 1:10pm by doctorugh

Count Dracula does Bloodrake.

I can't seem to get orcs in the past to use counterstance... Killed for 2 hours with none of them using it =/

OK, I've tested Orcish Counterstance, and while the results are not yet a hundred percent solid, I think I am too lazy to be bothered testing further.

My first test was done with the Counter job trait, GH/RR/MC atma, and orcish counterstance. It yielded a counter rate of approx. 25%.

My second test was done with just the atma and counter trait, and it yielded a counter rate of roughly 15%.

My third and final test was done without Gnarled Horn or the Counter trait, but with OC, and yielded a counter rate of roughly 10%.

Thus: It needs more testing, but it seems the counter rate of Orcish Counterstance is 10%~. Not very impressive, BUT, it does have a juicy side.

Orcish Counterstance vastly increases counter damage. Without it up, my normal swings and counters were similar in damage (160 avg vs 168; within the margin of error).

With it up, my normal swings were doing 160, and my counters were doing 260. (Parsed average)

So! Orcish Counterstance on it's own is not very impressive. It's a cheap spell, but costs a lot of points and has a slow casting time.

The question is: Does it stack with Counterstance from /mnk? If so, a full-on counter build for BLU could become viable in abyssea, with each counter doing 70%~ more damage than a normal swing. With actual DD atma, food, etc, I can easily see counters averaging well over 300 damage.

Do aftermath effects proc on counters?

Edited, Dec 19th 2011 1:52am by ItsAMyri

Something isn't adding up here. I just spent a good hour testing Quadrastrike with RR/GH, and it does not seem to crit at 0 TP. At all.

CA+0% tp yielded low results (1600-1800), still well worse than Quadratic Continuum(2000-2200).

CA+50%+ tp and it started to shine(3500~).

Efflux was better than CA, with results well into the 4000 range with efflux alone. This implies it's all about TP and not CA. Presumably a crit penalty below 100% TP. Would recommend Enchainment if one plans to skillchain with this.

But without CA or Efflux, or with CA at 0 tp, the spell wouldn't break 2000, whereas Quadratic Continuum was pushing out 2200~. It seems to have a huge critrate penalty at 0% tp, and even 75%~ critrate from RR/GH was not enough to overcome this.

What atma were you using other than RR? Testing it on Tiny Mandies seemed to yield 2 dmg per 1 point of str. With capped attack that'd mean 1 damage per str at 1:1, so... does that mean it has a 100% STR mod? If so, STR atma would make it blow QC away, even sans-crits.

Edited, Dec 19th 2011 10:36pm by ItsAMyri