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#27kimjongil76, Posted: Sep 29 2011 at 8:07 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nope Blu/whm actually. Wass to tired to notice I wasnt even subbing /sch.
#28 Sep 29 2011 at 9:04 AM Rating: Decent
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KOTR Heavy Swing = Light


I wonder if it will close light for Savage Blade, I know it doesn't close anything for CDC.
#29kimjongil76, Posted: Sep 29 2011 at 10:04 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nope Salvage blade wont make light with Heavy swing.
#30 Sep 30 2011 at 11:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wonder if I also did the Light Skillchain and had a second blu CA goblin rush would that double light? Or use a revitalizer.

Edited, Sep 29th 2011 3:15pm by kimjongil76


No tems this round but did do KoTr 1051. HW 4177 light SC 4700 to the HNM worm

B thunder 2200

These should be much higher if i used temps. atmas atm VV RR and MM

Edited, Sep 29th 2011 3:23pm by kimjongil76


You can't make Double Light doing that, as Goblin Rush only has Fusion properties. It doesn't have Light/Fusion properties.

I would really recommend getting a better sword to use than that Corbenic Sword that you're using as soon as possible. Knights of the Round was never that great of a weaponskill to begin with, and in Abyssea it's even less impressive. Not only that, but the Corbenic Sword's stats are just overwhelmingly subpar in comparison to other swords out there Blu can use. Besides the new haste swords released this past update and besides the obvious Magian weapons, there are swords like the Isador and the Mageblade that will just do you so much better in the long run than to allow you one potentially good skillchain every 13 weaponskills.
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#31kimjongil76, Posted: Sep 30 2011 at 1:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have many swords.
#32 Sep 30 2011 at 6:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I have many swords.

And i don melee in the sword. Would i unlock KotR to be ready for a Kc 30, any abby HNM or voidwatch. Yes.

The Skillchain in abby is doing 8k

I do use many swords khandras, many lvl 95 MoT, and the fast cast sword. I will use these to melee and such, but they don't out SC KotR/ Heavy Swing Light B thunder what is 10-11k. with MB

I don't have n emp yet. But i sure you can see on test server how well the SC does and when your doing 3-5k HS you wont look back.


Im Confused, you charge up 13 ws to use KotR and CA Heavy Strike, Correct? Can you give an example of the kind of numbers you are putting out, what gear/atmas and if and when you use CA Efflux. I know I can do a savage > Quad cut for total dmg of on average 6-7k; WS+QQ+SC with CA and Ef on. and iff i follow a thf's Eviceration with my own QQ ful TP i can rock out a good 4500-5k with 8% higher Darkness sc bonus. hiting in 9k-10k with CA,E,QQ+SC.

Guess my real question is how much dmg is your KotR putting out that it would shine so bright?
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#33 Sep 30 2011 at 7:24 PM Rating: Default
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When I did KoTR / Heavy Swing Weapon skill to Light Skillchain, there was no chance to even MB as mobs would die.

When i did take down HNM, no two how no temps i was doing 3-4k H


And I was only walking around in Af3 gear and refresh atmas as I was exping at the time.

So Today I went out and fought the puk to help a friend with Whte wing in abby.

2500 KotR 7k heavy swing 9k Light SC. I didnt get MB off as way to much hate on me. I don't know why light is stronger then the spell.

I still would swap out KotR sword and put regular melee swords back in. But the sword skillchain makes a great combo opener for NMS or events to open with or use ne powerful WS.

I dont have an emp or WoE yet, but no GR or QQ or BT WS could put ut numbers like that.

Thats why I shared the info and was asking for advice what I could use as a spell f i used a revitalizer to double light, but I figured that out.

If your on the test server you can try out the combo yourself.

Wiki doesn't list the SC combo nor does thsi websit so i tried to provide accutaeinformation and all i get is rate dons and people mocking me





Edited, Sep 30th 2011 9:26pm by kimjongil76
#34 Sep 30 2011 at 11:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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2500 KotR 7k heavy swing 9k Light SC. I didnt get MB off as way to much hate on me. I don't know why light is stronger then the spell.

I still would swap out KotR sword and put regular melee swords back in. But the sword skillchain makes a great combo opener for NMS or events to open with or use ne powerful WS.


Wiki doesn't list the SC combo nor does thsi websit so i tried to provide accutaeinformation and all i get is rate dons and people mocking me

Edited, Sep 30th 2011 9:26pm by kimjongil76


I'm not trying to start anything as far as an argument, I have to say that the numbers you're reporting for both Knights of Round and Heavy Strike seem a bit inflated. Knights of Round's modifiers are low enough that it'd be hard for you to hit 2.5k on anything, much less anything difficult like an NM. Then your damage for Heavy Strike with CA and Efflux is again way too high against that particular NM. I was popping CA Efflux Heavy Strikes on Waugyl when showing its capabilities to some fellow Blus and they were only doing half that high at best even with the optimal atma setup for it (VV, RR, and SS).

It's not that your skillchain information is inaccurate, since it was confirmed back on the test server that it had Fragmentation properties, it's that you're advocating the use of a subpar weapon with a mediocre weaponskill and trying to support your reasoning for it with information that just doesn't add up.

The spell is strong I'll give you that, just not near as strong as you claim it regularly is.

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#35 Oct 01 2011 at 12:40 AM Rating: Good
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Wait a second, blu doesn't have staff skill!
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#36 Oct 01 2011 at 5:27 AM Rating: Good
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Wait a second, blu doesn't have staff skill!

Apparently some people are just confused and saying Heavy Swing when they mean Heavy Strike.
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zomg, kotr for 1k followed by a heavy strike skillchain for light is so uber nub, dont even start to say that it isnt. wow, with lvl 85 ctc and BT darkness, even /whm i will get a minimum of like 7k. before the update as 90 blu/thf, using gnarled horn, razed runes, and sangine sythe, a sneak attack ctc > BT darkness sc can get up to 17k. um, 5k ctc, then 6k bt, for 6k darkness. add it up. na, u should use kotr more b/c its pro and keep saying how amazing u are

now with the update /war seems nice because of the double attack and triple attack stack ( even tho i was cheated out of my eponas ring more than a few times... >_<) using /thf is like *** when u actually get that 12-17k darkness skillchain off, but it is really hard to do with out gettting interrupted, especially if u have linkshell mates that are too nub to let u do it consistently, ur damage is prolly gonna be worse than a 95 blu/war, assuming that guy stays alive. but with the new defensive spells, im not worried about that much


Edited, Oct 5th 2011 6:35pm by highlander414
#38 Oct 05 2011 at 10:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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What did I just read.
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#39 Oct 05 2011 at 11:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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zomg, kotr for 1k followed by a heavy strike skillchain for light is so uber nub, dont even start to say that it isnt.

oh good sirs, this "knights of the round" weaponskill achieving 1,000 damage preceding a fully buffed heavy strike in completion of a "light" skill chain is quite the laughable concept. why, when out on the icy cliffs of uleguerand range, i myself have achieve true exploits.

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wow, with lvl 85 ctc and BT darkness, even /whm i will get a minimum of like 7k. before the update as 90 blu/thf, using gnarled horn, razed runes, and sangine sythe, a sneak attack ctc > BT darkness sc can get up to 17k. um, 5k ctc, then 6k bt, for 6k darkness. add it up.

there i was, stalking a wandering beast through the snow. as i crept up to the monster from the downwind position, i prepared myself for the upcoming battle. i clutched at my previous battles spoils: a horn pried from the the gnarled corpse of a bugard in misareaux, an etching of runes from the chest of an automaton, and the blood-stained reaper of a truly petrifying demon. as this new beast finally came into range, i unleashed my sneak attack. by utilizing my almace's to deadly chant du cygne, i devastated the enemy for 5,000 of its health. the enemy began to take action against me, but my years of battling strange monsters gave me the insight to follow the assault with a chained typhoon coming from the depths resulting in an additional 6,000 of the monsters health falling. the reaction of the damage compounded itself to awe inspiring proportions compounding another 6,000 damage from the now lifeless corpse of the animal. the battle done. i, its victor.

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na, u should use kotr more b/c its pro and keep saying how amazing u are

whilst your stories of of said "knights of the round" are compelling and should be spread among the provinces by wandering poets and minstrels alike, i shall challenge thee to ever endeavor onward to greater heights reached only by the most diligent of adventurers.

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now with the update /war seems nice because of the double attack and triple attack stack ( even tho i was cheated out of my eponas ring more than a few times... >_<) using /thf is like *** when u actually get that 12-17k darkness skillchain off, but it is really hard to do with out gettting interrupted

whilst the most recent battle strategies of common disciplines have resulted in multiple attacks at a time, nothing can compare to the compounding of excellence forth coming from the chaining of attacks. and this chaining of attacks, with LIMITS THAT EVEN HEAVEN KNOWS NOT OF! this chaining can reach upwards of the 12-17,000 damage area. and this chaining, likened only to the sweet caress of a woman, to the embrace limited only to lovers, this necessary sharing for the creation of all things in this world. this chaining knows no bounds but those placed upon it by wandering comrades, not knowing of the chaining potential. and whilst they fight for honor and show their mettle in the face of such wavering odds, their quickness to cooperatively slay wandering demons often breaks chains into their smaller constituents.

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especially if u have linkshell mates that are too nub to let u do it consistently, ur damage is prolly gonna be worse than a 95 blu/war, assuming that guy stays alive. but with the new defensive spells, im not worried about that much

and while your companions may be striking in their own trained discipline, their actions can be counter-productive to the current damage being unleashed by your own chaining. whilst i myself participate in an increasingly cautious battle plan in order to capitalize on the universal weakness amongst all monsters. and said weakness allows for a multitude of surprise encounters providing the necessary leverage to fully destroy everything the monster is, leaving little else than some organs still in whole, possible a various limb or head. however due to your comrades disrupting the synchronized attack, it may possibly be advantageous to simply employ a different tactic to your fight and simply meet the foe head on and battle in a similar fashion to a soldier. this fighting stance can allow for the maximal amount of damage to be put outforth, it is a style deeply rooted in dangerous encounters and can lead to severe damage taken. alas, for myself, this danger worries me not. i posses the deeply guarded secrets of even the foes i fight in order to continue onward. i harness the winds beneath the fearsome flying dragons of the west, i allude the attacks by creating the false images similar to foes so imaginative that even the most traveled bard would be pressed to describe. travel on adventurers and let my stories empower you to reach for further greatness.
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#40 Oct 05 2011 at 11:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Now you just make it worse on purpose, don't you.
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#41 Oct 05 2011 at 11:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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you know how hard it was to make that? i laughed so much i think it took like an hour
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That was a very thoughtful post. I laughed, I cried, I was entranced until the very end. Excellent

Edited, Oct 6th 2011 6:21am by doctorugh
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#43 Oct 06 2011 at 5:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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So wait... blu doesn't have staff skill but heavy swing makes light and then something called CTC chains with benthic typhoon?

This **** is bananas.
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#44 Oct 06 2011 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the translation figster never woulda figured it out.

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So wait... blu doesn't have staff skill but heavy swing makes light and then something called CTC chains with benthic typhoon?


1. someone confused heavy swing(staff ws) with heavy strike(blu spell)
2. by CTC he meant CDC(chant du cygne) being a lvl 3 skillchain element WS it probably skillchains with alot of blu spells.


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Seems like this spell was meant for BLU/thf.
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Seems like this spell was meant for BLU/thf.

It's the only spell where SA has no use.
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Things like auto-crit, but only hit when sneak attack is active makes SE chuckle.
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#49highlander414, Posted: Oct 12 2011 at 4:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) yes, obviously if u could not understand my post u do not have an empy weapon called almace. let me clarify for all of the lolblu people who cant understand what im saying..
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Many years ago, students were taught that each sentence started with a capital letter and then ended with a period. Commas were not a substitute for periods and each sentence would contain its own verb. Basically I just wanted to say "Lighten up, the breakdown of your previous garbled post was funny!". But since I don't have an Almace, I'm an lolblu. Pay me no mind.

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#51highlander414, Posted: Oct 12 2011 at 5:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i get to be an *** b/c i just told what most of u didnt know at all which is basically how to play endgame blu/thf. sorry but ive had a bad day and ffxi ****** me off latey because stupid people that hardly log onto events manage to get drops i want and ive put too much time into this stupid LS to change. and yes, imo, my pup is lawl pup, lawl drg lawl nin etc b/c no empy for those(no aftermath). just my opinion, srry, but this game has been out for how many years? pick a job and make it good dont play 15 at once then cry about having no empy because people dont know your main. just becuase u had a job at 75 3 years ago and it was good doesnt mean it isnt nub as **** now at 95 without lots of work. i spent hours of research and months of playtime on blu figuereing this stuff out because i decided to pick one job and learn it. so call me an *** if u want, idc (it stands for i dont care ) doesnt make me liar about the dmg #s i put out on blu.
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