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#1 Sep 10 2011 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Cheers guys!

Finally closing in on 70, so have been prepering for the limit breaker.
Got all spells I need last night and testemony aswell.

But my problem is; just came back, and nor are and nor were any good on macros.

Would someone be so kind to set up a good macro list needed for this fight? ^^

Would appreciate it big time!

Sincerly

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#2 Sep 11 2011 at 3:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Open with a solo Detonation SC then pop Azure Lore and go to town on him.

Vorpal Blade > Hysteric Barrage = Detonation

Above all, bring 1-2 Echo Drops. There's no point risking this without it, you could pop Azure Lore to which he counters with instant-cast Radiant Breath while putting on trollface.jpg


Edit: Read it again...

/ja "Chain Affinity" <me> /wait 2
/ws "Vorpal Blade" <t> /wait 3
/ma "Hysteric Barrage" <t>


When it comes to Azure Lore just mash spells at will and see what goes boom.


Edited, Sep 11th 2011 6:10am by Tatham
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#3 Sep 12 2011 at 8:55 AM Rating: Good
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Although I don't have any macros for you, I can say that you will want to be decisive and act fast.

The longer you sit there buffing, the longer HE sits there buffing too.
#4 Sep 12 2011 at 4:45 PM Rating: Good
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The new and improved Azure Lore probably makes this fight much easier to do at 70, because I'm guessing that enemies will generally be too stupid to make use of its new "perma-Affinity" effect. I'm not familiar with BLU spell skillchains, but I'm sure that even at 70 you could build a decent one to take him out with.

It still only lasts 30 seconds unfortunately, but from what I've heard, this fight is among the shortest LB5 fights and that 30 seconds might be all you need.
#5 Sep 12 2011 at 6:01 PM Rating: Good
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Fynlar wrote:
The new and improved Azure Lore probably makes this fight much easier to do at 70, because I'm guessing that enemies will generally be too stupid to make use of its new "perma-Affinity" effect. I'm not familiar with BLU spell skillchains, but I'm sure that even at 70 you could build a decent one to take him out with.

It still only lasts 30 seconds unfortunately, but from what I've heard, this fight is among the shortest LB5 fights and that 30 seconds might be all you need.


It is very short, yes. If you don't do enough damage to force him to heal, he mops the floor with you. And if you can't out damage him suddenly starting to Magic Fruit spam before you run out of steam, you die.

Since Azure Lore is awesome now though, you can try to follow up Hysteric Barrage (or Smite of Rage if you didn't have Hysteric Barrage) with Death Scissors and score a Gravitation. And then start over with Frenetic Rip (Induration), Head Butt/Frypan (-> Impaction), Uppercut (->Liquification), then Head Butt/Frypan (whichever you didn't use earlier) (->Fusion). Hopefully the stuns will mess him up and buy you time to do more damage with your other spells. I don't know the timing that would make it work though, unfortunately, since I haven't played in a bit.



#6 Sep 13 2011 at 8:01 AM Rating: Default
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Thanks for the macro Tatham, but you and others should know that it need to be /wait 4 before you cast Hysteric Barrage, it wil say unable to cast spell otherwise.

I failed my first try, so trying to get the testemony again.

And to the other replies, how am I supposed to be able to use to skillchains when Chain Affinity is on cooldown? Or does the effect last long enough to use two?

Thanks for the help.

#7 Sep 13 2011 at 8:24 AM Rating: Good
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And to the other replies, how am I supposed to be able to use to skillchains when Chain Affinity is on cooldown? Or does the effect last long enough to use two?


Azure Lore was recently updated to make all your spells SC- & MB-able while it's active without the need to use Chain/Burst Affinity.
#8 Sep 13 2011 at 9:13 AM Rating: Good
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Fynlar wrote:
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And to the other replies, how am I supposed to be able to use to skillchains when Chain Affinity is on cooldown? Or does the effect last long enough to use two?


Azure Lore was recently updated to make all your spells SC- & MB-able while it's active without the need to use Chain/Burst Affinity.


This.

Play around with it on the Mimickers and see what skillchains you like, although if you have to end up soloing one, you probably won't be able to build up enough TP to start off with a weapon skill. =X

You may find it fruitful to start off the fight with Hecatomb Wave or (I think) Frost Breath, since you should be able to nail him first without stepping into aggro range. If the Paralysis or Blind part lands, it REALLY helps, and it should wipe out any shadows from Zephyr Mantle if he put it up.
#9 Sep 13 2011 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
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I've seen the Frost Breath strategy on youtube. But they also change gear, I have no idea how to macro gearswap. Would Frost Breath land paralyse even if I use the BLU af?

Awesome stuff about 2-hr =).

And I've read there is NO CHANCE to solo the Mimickers, is that not true?

Edited, Sep 13th 2011 12:12pm by Theraniel
#10 Sep 13 2011 at 1:04 PM Rating: Good
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Theraniel wrote:
I've seen the Frost Breath strategy on youtube. But they also change gear, I have no idea how to macro gearswap. Would Frost Breath land paralyse even if I use the BLU af?

The added effect chance doesn't care what you're wearing. It's just a chance. The more important thing about it is to wipe out Blink-shadows.

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Awesome stuff about 2-hr =).

And I've read there is NO CHANCE to solo the Mimickers, is that not true?

Edited, Sep 13th 2011 12:12pm by Theraniel


This is totally, blatantly false. There is a chance; it's just not 100%. You just might have to prepare to zone if bad luck happens, which *will* happen if you get a higher level one that Firespits more than once or doesn't take enough damage (some accuracy issues for me at the time :( ). I went through 5 testimonies before passing successfully, and soloed for about 60% of the time spent farming them. The remaining percentage of the time, a couple of BLU in my linkshell helped (a ton!).

It's been a while since I did it, but IIRC, I went /RDM, applied every useful buff I could slap on (including Barfire), and had Head Butt and either a sleep or root effect (or both) equipped. But I had to be willing to cut my losses if it picked a really nasty combination of attacks or just didn't take enough damage, and only used the sleep/root to zone.

I also didn't have Hysteric Barrage, which would have made it MUCH easier, but did have Frenetic Rip.

That's all I remember unfortunately.
#11 Sep 14 2011 at 8:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey again.

I have failed twice now, I do what every guide says but cant seem to do enough damage. I get him down to roughly 45% then all my spells are on cooldown, I am 10-15 points behind on cap tho.

I start with Frost Breath, then Skillchain Vorpal -- Hysteric, then Icarus Wing then Vorpal again, then frenetic Rip, Death Scissors, Dimesional Death, Mandibular Bite.

From all the movies I've seen this should be enough(even saw an 68 do it).

SO my conclusion must be I am way under the skill needed, but does really 15 points make that much difference in damage output?

And if that is the reason, where can I safely solo up my skill?

Sincerly

Edited, Sep 14th 2011 10:34am by Theraniel
#12kimjongil76, Posted: Sep 14 2011 at 9:37 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Its random.
#13 Sep 14 2011 at 9:54 AM Rating: Good
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Theraniel wrote:
Hey again.

I have failed twice now, I do what every guide says but cant seem to do enough damage. I get him down to roughly 45% then all my spells are on cooldown, I am 10-15 points behind on cap tho.

I start with Frost Breath, then Skillchain Vorpal -- Hysteric, then Icarus Wing then Vorpal again, then frenetic Rip, Death Scissors, Dimensional Death, Mandibular Bite.

From all the movies I've seen this should be enough(even saw an 68 do it).

SO my conclusion must be I am way under the skill needed, but does really 15 points make that much difference in damage output?

And if that is the reason, where can I safely solo up my skill?

Sincerly

Edited, Sep 14th 2011 10:34am by Theraniel


You should always cap your Blue Magic skill. No exceptions. It's one of the factors in the damage formula for physical spells. I think I capped it while farming Mimickers while grouped from heavy amounts of cheap spell spam. (I didn't dare risk that solo.) Besieged is also an option...if people still do Besieged. >_> If they don't, then it's definitely not safe. I've always treated skilling up on magic like skilling up a weapon skill like Sword, and it's worked well for me that way. YMMV.

You may also need more STR gear or may have an accuracy issue. If you are able to see how much damage the video guides do on their multi-hit spells and compare with yours, that should give you a very good idea if all your hits are connecting. I've heard other BLUs complain about Dimensional Death accuracy in particular but again, YMMV.

The fact that you're not hurting enough is another reason why you will want (the new) Azure Lore active and making sure you're hitting as many skillchains as possible. Unless you had it on and just forgot to mention it.

If you're not used to gear swapping, this is probably a bad place to try getting used to it. You don't NEED to do it to get through this (I didn't--inventory issues kept me from hoarding gear), but it can help if you have the specialized gear.

I personally found it easier (on my nerves) to put most of the spells in separate macros instead of all in one in this circumstance, but again, YMMV.

There's also the small possibility that he was adjusted due to the Azure Lore changes.
#14 Sep 15 2011 at 5:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Well!

Made it on my third try ^^.

Skilled cap and made myself more ready than I was the first two, then it suddenly was a piece of cake.

818hp left
and 50% MP.

Thanks for all the help.

Sincerly
#15 Sep 15 2011 at 9:02 AM Rating: Good
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Grats!

He can be sort of random like that. :D
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