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#1 Aug 29 2011 at 2:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ok Guys here are the new BLU Spells:

Barrier Tusk
Mortal Ray
Water Bomb
Heavy Strike
Dark Orb
White Wind
Sudden Lunge
THunderbolt
Harden SHell
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#2kimjongil76, Posted: Aug 29 2011 at 5:53 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nice, wish i kne what some of those spells did and from what monsters. Thanks for the information.
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Bolded hnm spells.
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#4kimjongil76, Posted: Aug 29 2011 at 7:05 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So all those are?
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Geez, those are the HNM spells that are supposedly good enough to justify requiring a separate timer to get access to?

White Wind cool. Undecided about most others.
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#6kimjongil76, Posted: Aug 29 2011 at 7:21 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hardened shell, thunderbolt and white wind would be only three that would be classified as HNM.
#7 Aug 29 2011 at 7:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Here's the details on the spells:

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Heavy Strike: Damage varies with TP.
92BLU
STR+2
32MP
Type: Physical
Element: N/A
2 Set Points

Casting Time: 1 second
Recast Time: 30 seconds

Notes:
10 casts, naked except for Almace, buffless, and on Wild Rabbits: 1152, 1043, 1144, 1185, 1174, 1178, 1098, 1041, 1156, 1164

10 casts, STR gear, and buffless: 1324, 1488, 1510, 1484, 1511, 1513, 1342, 1500, 1515, 1448





Sudden Lunge: Damage varies with TP. Additional effect: "Stun."
95BLU
HP-5 MP-5 DEX +1 AGI +1
18MP
Type: Physical
Element: N/A
4 Set Points

Casting Time: 1 second
Recast Time: 12 seconds

Notes:
10 casts, naked except for Almace, buffless, and on Wild Rabbits: 378, 411, 276, 334, 303, 392, 400, 291, 393, 337

10 casts, STR gear, and buffless: 368, 419, 379, 366, 287, 324, 384, 424, 394, 331

Does not reduce caster's HP. The stun lasted for several seconds.





White Wind: Restores HP of all party members within the area of effect.
94BLU
HP+5 AGI +1
145MP
Type: Magical
Element: Wind
5 Set Points

Casting Time: 7 seconds
Recast Time: 20 seconds

Notes: Restored 706 HP with cruor buffs and no gear (2473 HP). Restored 844 HP with HP gear equipped (2692 HP). Restored 758 with Serpentes set. HP recovered is effected by cure potency and maximum HP, it is not effected by MND. Unknown if number of party members has any impact at this time.





Barrier Tusk: Reduces the amount of damage you take.
91BLU
HP+15 MP-15 VIT +3
41MP
Type: Magical
Element: Earth
3 Set Points

Casting Time: 6 seconds
Duration: 60 seconds
Recast Time: 60 seconds

Notes: There appears to be some type of extra effect attached to Barrier Tusk. With 427 blue magic skill, it cut 1000 needles' damage down to 850.





Water Bomb: Deals water damage to enemies within area of effect. Additional effect: Silence.
92BLU
MP +20 INT+4 MND+2 STR-3 VIT-3
67MP
Type: Magical
Element: Water
2 Set Points

Casting Time: 3 seconds
Recast Time: 32 seconds

Notes:
Naked, buffless, and on a Wild Rabbit: 348

INT gear (no MAB added, INT 78+28 MND74+20), buffless, and on a Wild Rabbits: 394

Full nuke set (MAB+36 INT78+56 MND74+41), buffless, and on a Wild Rabbit: 612

The silence effect lasted for 60 seconds.




Mortal Ray: Inflicts Doom upon an enemy.
91BLU
STR +2 MND +2
267MP
Type: Magical
Element: Darkness
4 Set Points

Casting Time: 8 seconds
Recast Time: 2 minutes 30 seconds

Notes: Gaze attack with incredibly low accuracy, probably based on the level of your target vs. your level. The doom effect appears to take 60 seconds to kill the target.





Dark Orb: Deals dark elemental damage to an enemy.
93BLU
AGI+2 MND+2
153MP
Type: Magical
Element: Darkness
3 Set Points

Casting Time: 9 seconds
Recast Time: 1 minute 12 seconds

Notes:
Naked, buffless, and on a Wild Rabbit: 710

INT gear (no MAB added, INT 78+28 MND74+20), buffless, and on a Wild Rabbits: 794

Full nuke set (MAB+36 INT78+56 MND74+41), buffless, and on a Wild Rabbit: 1217





Thunderbolt: Deals Lightning damage to enemies within the area of effect. Additional effect: "Stun."
138MP
Type: Magical
Element: Lightning

Casting Time:

Notes: Very low damage, but outstandingly long stun duration.





Harden Shell: Enhances defense.
20MP
Type: Magical
Element: Earth

Casting Time: 3 seconds
Duration: 90 seconds

Notes: +100% Defense


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Edited, Aug 29th 2011 8:47am by kenshynOnShiva
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#8 Aug 29 2011 at 8:36 AM Rating: Default
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So hardened shell and thunderbolt are the HNM ones?

Ok spells, wish hardened shell was normel, it go well with magic barrier.

I was hoping for a breath and multi hit spell as well. Oh well, next update.

Looks like head **** will finaily be replaced

Edited, Aug 29th 2011 10:38am by kimjongil76
#9kimjongil76, Posted: Aug 29 2011 at 8:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If you look at wikithe spell is defennse and magic defennse bonus
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TummieGaruda;4765158 wrote:
Hardened Shell is 100% Defense Bonus
Mortal Ray takes FOREVER to kill a mob


Acrid Stream + Demoralizing Roar + Empty Trash + Heavy Strike = Triple Attack
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#11 Aug 29 2011 at 9:38 AM Rating: Default
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kenshynOnShiva wrote:
TummieGaruda;4765158 wrote:
Hardened Shell is 100% Defense Bonus
Mortal Ray takes FOREVER to kill a mob


Acrid Stream + Demoralizing Roar + Empty Trash + Heavy Strike = Triple Attack


So Double Attack+10% will be replaced by Triple Attack+5% ? Not sure what SE is thinking, without more sufficient +TA gear this will actually be weaker.... Unless of course BLU/WAR still works.

Edited, Aug 29th 2011 11:45am by GagBag
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Idk if this is normal or not since I really don't remember trying this on an Imp, but I did EF+CA+QC for about 4.2k at 0%TP. The only thing I did was raise my cap to 95 and unlocked the new spells, didn't mess with any merits I didn't already have and wearing my current AF3+1 and elemental trial swords. I think the most I've ever gotten was maybe 3.5k on Qutrub in the Mire. Is this normal for imps?
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#13 Aug 29 2011 at 10:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Idk if this is normal or not since I really don't remember trying this on an Imp, but I did EF+CA+QC for about 4.2k at 0%TP. The only thing I did was raise my cap to 95 and unlocked the new spells, didn't mess with any merits I didn't already have and wearing my current AF3+1 and elemental trial swords. I think the most I've ever gotten was maybe 3.5k on Qutrub in the Mire. Is this normal for imps?


At 95 you have more BLU skill which raises your base damage on spells. With Merits, Emp+2 Pants and AFv1 Body, and Tathlum I was sitting at ~450 Blu Skill
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kimjongil76 wrote:


So all those are?

But water bomb, barrier tusk sudden lunge are all regular monster spells. Heck sudden lunge was laybugs and I just killed 400 of them

Barrier tusk is the dinos in mix coast. water bomb frogs. Mortal ray froght roar mob.

I dont think SE will give all these as HNM spells and 0 91-95 spells.


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Edited, Aug 29th 2011 1:46pm by Peimei
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Hopefully, barrier tusk doesn't count towards the -DT cap. If it does, I'd be much happier if it were phalanx. Meh, either way, I guess I wouldn't have to turtle up as much in certain situations.
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Geez, those are the HNM spells that are supposedly good enough to justify requiring a separate timer to get access to?

White Wind cool. Undecided about most others.


Does anyone know the timer for the new ability that gives access to HNM spells? and are they co7unted toward your set list when you set spells? BMP? or Slots? Seems like if they fill your slots and you can only use very,Say, 5 minutes whats the point? just wasting slots and BMP on potentially better setups.
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#17 Aug 29 2011 at 9:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nihcru wrote:
Erecia wrote:
Geez, those are the HNM spells that are supposedly good enough to justify requiring a separate timer to get access to?

White Wind cool. Undecided about most others.


Does anyone know the timer for the new ability that gives access to HNM spells? and are they co7unted toward your set list when you set spells? BMP? or Slots? Seems like if they fill your slots and you can only use very,Say, 5 minutes whats the point? just wasting slots and BMP on potentially better setups.


The HNM spells are independent of your main spell set, and dont require any slots or BMP. The cooldown timer is 5 minutes and the ability allows you to cast a single spell from the HNM list, after which you will need to let the timer cool down before casting anymore HNM spells.

Edited, Aug 29th 2011 11:22pm by EricCantona
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Do we know the duration of Hardened shell yet?
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#19 Aug 30 2011 at 8:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hardened shell, thunderbolt and white wind would be only three that would be classified as HNM.

Honestly I dont think any on this list are HNM. As even hardened shell is EP mobs in abby mow. Every update we got 7-9 spells from 76-90. So why would SE add all these spells as HNM and no regular spells 911-95.


and White wind ona 5 minute timer, no one would rarely use it.


Only Harden Shell and Thunderbolt count as "HNM" spells unlocked through Unbridled Knowledge, which is why Peimei bolded those two specifically. White Wind and all the other spells that Tummie listed are normal spells that we have to set in order to use, same as all the previous spells we've ever obtained.

Though there are far easier places to obtain the "HNM" spells nowadays, initially those sorts of mobs could only be found in HNM situations. There weren't normal Adamantoise or Behemoths roaming around that people could just walk up to whenever they felt like and fight. Adamantoise and Behemoth were mobs that for the longest time only existed in an NM form and never had a normal mob variant (Behemoth still doesn't), so that's why they're considered "HNM" spells by the public.

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So hardened shell and thunderbolt are the HNM ones?

Ok spells, wish hardened shell was normel, it go well with magic barrier.

I was hoping for a breath and multi hit spell as well. Oh well, next update.

Looks like head **** will finaily be replaced


Breath spells in general aren't worth it, cause unless their formula was insane (like DMG = 2x or 3x current HP), they would fall short of our better non-breath nukes.

Multi-hit spells we have plenty of, and considering that currently some of our best physical DD spells are multi-hits (Quadratic Continuum and Goblin Rush, for example), it's nice to have a strong single hit spell, since that will help out against potentially future NMs that may have really high defense.

Lastly, Sudden Lunge's recast makes it too long to be a real replacement for Head ****, given that it's a 12 second recast barring Fast Cast/Haste effects. A complementary spell to Head **** definitely, but not its replacement. Unless they were to tweak the recast time by a considerable amount for Sudden Lunge, Head **** is still going to be a spell to keep set.

Edited, Aug 30th 2011 10:30am by Vlorsutes
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So I'll be the first to say Hardened shell will only be able to be learned from an nm.


Edit: Not stating a fact, just guessing.

Edited, Aug 30th 2011 11:08am by Peimei
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#21kimjongil76, Posted: Aug 30 2011 at 11:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) NO, I dont think so. Many urtles in abby nd they are not NM. But if we must. lol Genbu is soloable, and we will steal his secrets.
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Do we know the duration of Hardened shell yet?


I did a brief test of both Thunderbolt and Hardenshell in Abyssea Altep on dolls. The duration for Hardenshell seemed to be around 30-40 secs (couldn't get exact being I still haven't set everything up macro's and such in there and was working from the menu's manually.... and it is +100% defense). Thundrbolt hit the dolls for around 700 dmg each. As mentioned before they are linked to the ability Unbridel Knowledge(spelling).. and the timer for it is 5 min's. Will be interesting to see if SE keeps the settings with it when it goes live.
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Fancy shmancy cocoon then.

Does Unbridel Knowledge have a duration or does it only last until you use a single spell?
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A solid "meh" to unbridled knowledge as of now.
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Fancy shmancy cocoon then.

Does Unbridel Knowledge have a duration or does it only last until you use a single spell?


From what I've seen it's a one-shot deal as opposed to Scholar's Addendum effect remaining active for a few hours.
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Is Heavy Strike a critical hit or is it chance of crit with CA? Asking because if its just an incredibly strong single it attack, when you could stack it with SA for some really crazy damage. Basically a replacement for VC / BT. Otherwise its just ~ok~.
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