Mostly unhappy with SE's ward update.
1. Schurzen BP lasts really short, and costs 150 MP. Since it is only effective on being "near killed", I had zero moments of being able to tell it worked, in about 50 BPs. The result is that this seem to be a BP move to be used at the same times as you use Alexander. Which is right now only on AV. Of course a BRD can do it for free and same or longer duration.
2. Attack down. 100% landing rate from my tests, which is nice. Not noticable damage difference makes it rather pointless. It is roughly as good as using Titan's defense favor right now from what I can tell.
3. Crimson howl is still too short. I estimated it to be about 80 seconds when I forgot to use my skill set. That is still with about 30 skill over cap. I'd estimate that you can probably get it up to 2 min if lucky.
The "positive" parts.
1. With capped level 80 summoning skill and +50ish skill or whatever I have, I got hastega to last 4 min 40 seconds. I think I had longer before update actually, but near 5 min is acceptable in any case.
2. The spikes BPs seem to last about 4 min as well, making them usable but still not very good.
The unknown.
1. Still haven't tested the changes to 3 min base pacts like Fenrir and Diabolos pacts.
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Mellowy wrote:
Mostly unhappy with SE's ward update.
1. Schurzen BP lasts really short, and costs 150 MP. Since it is only effective on being "near killed", I had zero moments of being able to tell it worked, in about 50 BPs. The result is that this seem to be a BP move to be used at the same times as you use Alexander. Which is right now only on AV. Of course a BRD can do it for free and same or longer duration.
In bastion the mobs can one shot almost anyone especially mages, avatars went down in one shot 100% of the time even titian with EA up. I on the other hand would only take 0-155 damage and i have 1100 hp. Seem not to work at all below a certain high amount of dmg.
2. Attack down. 100% landing rate from my tests, which is nice. Not noticable damage difference makes it rather pointless. It is roughly as good as using Titan's defense favor right now from what I can tell.
Yeah this sucks but the animation is awesome
3. Crimson howl is still too short. I estimated it to be about 80 seconds when I forgot to use my skill set. That is still with about 30 skill over cap. I'd estimate that you can probably get it up to 2 min if lucky.
yep sucks
The "positive" parts.
1. With capped level 80 summoning skill and +50ish skill or whatever I have, I got hastega to last 4 min 40 seconds. I think I had longer before update actually, but near 5 min is acceptable in any case.
At 85 with 334 skill far from cap i have 4min 11sec wards
2. The spikes BPs seem to last about 4 min as well, making them usable but still not very good.
The unknown.
1. Still haven't tested the changes to 3 min base pacts like Fenrir and Diabolos pacts.
1. Schurzen BP lasts really short, and costs 150 MP. Since it is only effective on being "near killed", I had zero moments of being able to tell it worked, in about 50 BPs. The result is that this seem to be a BP move to be used at the same times as you use Alexander. Which is right now only on AV. Of course a BRD can do it for free and same or longer duration.
In bastion the mobs can one shot almost anyone especially mages, avatars went down in one shot 100% of the time even titian with EA up. I on the other hand would only take 0-155 damage and i have 1100 hp. Seem not to work at all below a certain high amount of dmg.
2. Attack down. 100% landing rate from my tests, which is nice. Not noticable damage difference makes it rather pointless. It is roughly as good as using Titan's defense favor right now from what I can tell.
Yeah this sucks but the animation is awesome
3. Crimson howl is still too short. I estimated it to be about 80 seconds when I forgot to use my skill set. That is still with about 30 skill over cap. I'd estimate that you can probably get it up to 2 min if lucky.
yep sucks
The "positive" parts.
1. With capped level 80 summoning skill and +50ish skill or whatever I have, I got hastega to last 4 min 40 seconds. I think I had longer before update actually, but near 5 min is acceptable in any case.
At 85 with 334 skill far from cap i have 4min 11sec wards
2. The spikes BPs seem to last about 4 min as well, making them usable but still not very good.
The unknown.
1. Still haven't tested the changes to 3 min base pacts like Fenrir and Diabolos pacts.
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EA : If you lose more than 75% of your hp max on an attack, it's reduced by 45% (exemple : 1000 needle deals 550 with EA IF I have less than 1333~ hp)
Tidal Roar : Atk down -25% for 2 min
Oh and there's a new tier for Favor with 380~382 Smn Skill AND AF3 +1 Horn. (yes, I have it already) "Enhances Avatar's Favor" also gives Perp Cost -3 (with the Refresh, it's basically Perp Cost -4 with Favor up)
Edited, Sep 13th 2010 4:37am by papesse
Tidal Roar : Atk down -25% for 2 min
Oh and there's a new tier for Favor with 380~382 Smn Skill AND AF3 +1 Horn. (yes, I have it already) "Enhances Avatar's Favor" also gives Perp Cost -3 (with the Refresh, it's basically Perp Cost -4 with Favor up)
Edited, Sep 13th 2010 4:37am by papesse
Sounds good. I wasn't that interested in horn, since I got refresh pin, but the favor buff sounds decent. (Unless it also lowers dmg% by avatars by more)
Nice with a bit of good news on Earthen Armor too. Though I'm still amazed I never once got it to trigger while testing.
Nice with a bit of good news on Earthen Armor too. Though I'm still amazed I never once got it to trigger while testing.
From what I was able to tell, mobs that are resistant to Water have a higher resistance to Tidal Roar than others do. Playing around on Thalassinon and Crapaudy on Summoner the other day and I would see only about 50% of my Tidal Roars landing successfully.
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papesse wrote:
EA : If you lose more than 75% of your hp max on an attack, it's reduced by 45% (exemple : 1000 needle deals 550 with EA IF I have less than 1333~ hp)
Tidal Roar : Atk down -25% for 2 min
Oh and there's a new tier for Favor with 380~382 Smn Skill AND AF3 +1 Horn. (yes, I have it already) "Enhances Avatar's Favor" also gives Perp Cost -3 (with the Refresh, it's basically Perp Cost -4 with Favor up)
Edited, Sep 13th 2010 4:37am by papesse
Tidal Roar : Atk down -25% for 2 min
Oh and there's a new tier for Favor with 380~382 Smn Skill AND AF3 +1 Horn. (yes, I have it already) "Enhances Avatar's Favor" also gives Perp Cost -3 (with the Refresh, it's basically Perp Cost -4 with Favor up)
Edited, Sep 13th 2010 4:37am by papesse
All types of damage? Magic and physical? cause if so that's pretty sweet against these abyssea NM that like to 1 shot ppl.
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At 373 skill (not capped yet, with +65 smn skill gear)
Stoneskin lasts 16 minutes 10 seconds
Hastega lasts 4 minutes 10 seconds
Ecliptic Growl lasts 4 minutes 10 seconds
Edited, Sep 20th 2010 2:41pm by Toioiz
Stoneskin lasts 16 minutes 10 seconds
Hastega lasts 4 minutes 10 seconds
Ecliptic Growl lasts 4 minutes 10 seconds
Edited, Sep 20th 2010 2:41pm by Toioiz
kenshynOnShiva wrote:
papesse wrote:
EA : If you lose more than 75% of your hp max on an attack, it's reduced by 45% (exemple : 1000 needle deals 550 with EA IF I have less than 1333~ hp)
Tidal Roar : Atk down -25% for 2 min
Oh and there's a new tier for Favor with 380~382 Smn Skill AND AF3 +1 Horn. (yes, I have it already) "Enhances Avatar's Favor" also gives Perp Cost -3 (with the Refresh, it's basically Perp Cost -4 with Favor up)
Edited, Sep 13th 2010 4:37am by papesse
Tidal Roar : Atk down -25% for 2 min
Oh and there's a new tier for Favor with 380~382 Smn Skill AND AF3 +1 Horn. (yes, I have it already) "Enhances Avatar's Favor" also gives Perp Cost -3 (with the Refresh, it's basically Perp Cost -4 with Favor up)
Edited, Sep 13th 2010 4:37am by papesse
All types of damage? Magic and physical? cause if so that's pretty sweet against these abyssea NM that like to 1 shot ppl.
Yes but when you can have easily 2500 hp in Abyssea, there is not many mobs with an attack able to deal 1875 dmg at least... I can still see Ironclad Severer and his gravity-based move, Ovni under Fluorescence or Ruminator but EA is mostly useless. 75% of max hp is far too much to ask when you aren't a Taru in full Zenith stuff. Anyway the mechanic was very easy to test. Ballista is a good way for this but not the only method (and because people always think everything is nerfed inside). At 410~ smn skill the buff lasts around 2 min 50.
Oh and about Tidal Roar's range, it's 9.5/10m around Leviathan, same as a Blood Pact: Ward.
With AF3 Head and 382 skill, Diabolos now gives a 5 MP/Tick Refresh, Carby 18 HP/tick Regen, Titan +72 DEF. Strangely it's still MAB+10 for Shiva...
Edited, Sep 20th 2010 4:49pm by papesse
My boy got hit for 6k vs glavoid now if earthen armor can stop those 1 shot moves it would be awesome. Many Mobs we have fought have one shot a number members of our alliance is it 75% of current hp?
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You don't suppose Earthen Armor would stack with Sentinel's Scherzo, do you? Would let the tanks take some impressively high numbers and still walk away if it did...
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Same spell, so doubt it. Should work as poorly as warcry + crimson howl.
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