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#1 Jan 13 2010 at 11:32 AM Rating: Decent
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I have been stuck on this fight for 2 weeks now. Has anyone ever tried a smn burn party on this fight? So far we have tried
BLM x4 BRD SMN Fail
BLM x2 SAM x2 WHM SMN
BLM x2 SAM RNG WHM SMN

Have not really gotten close, was hoping to hear some ideas on what I could do to get his figh won. (only job i have to 75 is my smn)
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#2 Jan 13 2010 at 3:31 PM Rating: Good
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I didn't do a SMN-burn of the fight, but my brother did one on his DRG while I was over at his house, and I watched him do it. The setup was 2x SMN/WHM 2x SMN/SCH DRG/NIN RDM/WHM.

The DRG and one of the SMNs kited the WHM while the other 3 SMN killed the BLM and the RDM cured them. They wiped while fighting the WHM after the BLM was dead, but they rotated Garudas 2 at a time while weakened (2 Garudas on the WHM, 2 SMNs resting) and managed to kill the WHM before weakness even wore off.


Edit: Sorry, I was thinking Shantotto. Ignore this.

Edited, Jan 13th 2010 2:39pm by Aliekber
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#3 Jan 13 2010 at 4:56 PM Rating: Good
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I won w/ your strat the 2x BLM / SMN / 2X melee / Healer.

But I had a MNK and she 2hr'ed the boss at the last big when we started to have trouble. Just let the BLM's do their thing until he does his big move where he draws them in and hits them hard, then run out with Carby ready to HR2, use merit pacts..I used Geo, to help kill mini's when they need to be killed. Then just stay in D. arts and nuke with pet and aspir mini's on the final push while they're asleep..and let sleep II be ready just incase one is out of range of AoE..

that's all the advice I can give really because I won with the set up..keep trying and good luck.
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#4 Jan 13 2010 at 5:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Think I did it as 2 x BLM, 2 x SAM, 1 RDM, 1 COR (me). It was basically just BLMs juggling the big guy until he spawns tiny people, at which point one BLM sleepga them (dunno about ES) and the SAMs make short work of the spawns. Think it was that method once more next stage, and then at the end it is sleepga again but all go on the boss instead of kill minis.

We lost first try because he saved his AOE stun move until the second after he spawned the adds, which stunned the sleep and had them just -ga us to death while stunned.

I just rolled evokers and chaos more or less and tossed a cure or two. No reason you couldn't do this with a SMN instead really.

I believe the QDs only did normal damage though, since they are special effects.
#5 Jan 14 2010 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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RockFischNC wrote:
I have been stuck on this fight for 2 weeks now. Has anyone ever tried a smn burn party on this fight? So far we have tried
BLM x4 BRD SMN Fail
BLM x2 SAM x2 WHM SMN
BLM x2 SAM RNG WHM SMN

Have not really gotten close, was hoping to hear some ideas on what I could do to get his figh won. (only job i have to 75 is my smn)

You should have had no trouble at all with the last 2 setups you listed. Do you mind explaining what went wrong?

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We lost first try because he saved his AOE stun move until the second after he spawned the adds, which stunned the sleep and had them just -ga us to death while stunned.

This is the single hardest part of the fight, he's actually programmed to do a TP move immediately after popping henchmen the third time. Quite often it's Crystalline Flare which will stun all your sleepers nearby, so what I usually do on this fight is have one sleeper run up by the melees around 60% on the third phase, and just chill there. Once the NM pops henchmen and does his TP move, this person runs in to Sleepga the henchmen and save the day. Usually it's me on WHM/BLM, since I'm guaranteed not to have any hate, and obviously the person with hate can't do it. This is one of the very few fights in the game where I still WHM/BLM, because Sleepga IS the fight.

The henchmen landing a round of black magic is really the only thing that can possibly cause a loss in this fight, everything else is too easy. Fast Sleepgas are the key.

Edited, Jan 14th 2010 8:31am by Pergatory
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#6 Jan 22 2010 at 7:49 PM Rating: Default
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I went with 3 smn 1 blm, whm, a,nd a rdm. the rdm would kite while the whm assisted in case anything went wrong he would backup.

One of the smn went to get aggro by using carby to pull by attacking Shantotto(white) Then the rdm would grab Shantotto(Black) and kite.

Us smn's stayed about 25 feet from the Shantotto(white) while sending garuda out to attack her. we took her down pretty fast but the Shan(black) came to the rescue. and used their 2hrs lol.

So afterwards we got back up. We made sure we died by the door. After we got regained. We started the same process again and won. we got aoe a few times from shantotto(black) but whm helped with cures.

This battle was insanely fun and id do it again.
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#7 Jan 23 2010 at 7:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Wrong fight :)
#8 Feb 02 2010 at 10:10 AM Rating: Decent
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It took me four failed attempts before I got a victory on the fifth.

The winning party was 2x BLM, 1x RDM, 3x Melee. I managed to win the fight again afterwards with a similiar set up.

While the party was looking for members, I had mentioned SMN. The party definately did not want a SMN... Lol. Poor SMN. :(

I imagine though, that a SMN could do very well in that fight. MP would most certainly be an issue, I think.
#9 Feb 02 2010 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
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wrong fight.

BLM wins this fight.

Without a reliable sleepga, the henchmen will manaburn your avatars down.

Edited, Feb 2nd 2010 4:48pm by Toioiz
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#10 Feb 02 2010 at 5:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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There's no reason a BLMx2 SMN DDx3 can't win this fight. As long as your sleepers are quick, you shouldn't lose.

Just did it yesterday as BLM SCH(me) RDM SAM SAM DRG, but realistically a SMN would work nearly as well as RDM (minus being able to Refresh the BLM, naturally).
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#11 Feb 03 2010 at 8:41 AM Rating: Good
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Aliekber wrote:
There's no reason a BLMx2 SMN DDx3 can't win this fight. As long as your sleepers are quick, you shouldn't lose.

Just did it yesterday as BLM SCH(me) RDM SAM SAM DRG, but realistically a SMN would work nearly as well as RDM (minus being able to Refresh the BLM, naturally).


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#12 Feb 03 2010 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good
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I've won this fight a few times with a SMN in it (I'm usually on BLM though)

The most important things are;

GTFO of the way Melee!
-Only the 2 BLM (Any RDM if you have it) should be down in the circle when the main man is being burned down.

GTFO of the way BLM's!
-When he hits his magical %ages one BLM should be near the entrance doors (the one with hate) the other's should be over near the staris (Where the melee are up the back of)
-When they do pop, Start with Sleepga, 20-30 seconds later, land Sleepga II.
-BLM near the stairs be ready to sleep ASAP if the other BLM gets hit by a bad TP move/Resists.

Hit them Hard and Fast
-When the Mini's do pop The 2-3 DD and their Supporter (We use SMN, Who Buffs melee prior to pop) Off the little brown nosers before the first sleepga wears off.

Other then those 3 things, it really shouldn't be much of a hassle to win the fight.
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BLM x2 SAM x2 WHM SMN
BLM x2 SAM RNG WHM SMN


These 2 setups shouldn't have much/any trouble if everyone does their job correctly.
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