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#1 Jan 01 2010 at 7:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I've unlocked the SMN job a while back, and I've planned on taking it to 75 as well as another job I have in mind. But I'm currently taking a break and leveling my SMN. But I have my macros set up for the job, and I'm wondering how you fellow SMNs think of them. Currently, my SMN is only 28 I believe. And I have most of the spirits but Thunder, Light and Dark. As well as Ifrit, Titan, Shiva and Carbuncle. But anyways, here they are. Any suggestions made will be greatly appreciated for macro settings as I level.

ALT 1
/p Carbuncle
/ma "Carbuncle" <me>
/wait 10
/pet "Assault" <t>

ALT 2
/p Shiva
/ma "Shiva" <me>
/wait 10
/pet "Assault" <t>

ALT 3
/p Ifrit
/ma "Ifrit" <me>
/wait 10
/pet "Assault" <t>

ALT 4
/p Titan
/ma "Titan" <me>
/wait 10
/pet "Assault" <t>

ALT 9
/pet "Assault" <t>

ALT 0
/pet "Release" <me>

*Rest of the ALT macros are free. I plan on setting the Avatars in order of the days. But with Diabolos in, I may take Carbuncle out of the set.
As for CTRL macros, thats where I store in the Rage and Ward set.

CTRL 1: Debuff
/pet "Poison Nails" <t>

CTRL 2: Buff
/pet "Shining Ruby"

CTRL 3: Magic II
/pet "Blizzard II" <t>
/pet "Fire II" <t>
/pet "Stone II" <t>
/pet "Thunder II" <t>
/pet "Water II" <t>
/pet "Aero II" <t>
*seeing as how we SMNS know that the avatars only get Tier II and Tier IV spells. I set them in the set anyways, though I don't have them.

CTRL 4: Magic IV
/pet "Blizzard" IV" <t>
/pet "Fire IV" <t>
/pet "Stone IV" <t>
/pet "Thunder IV" <t>
/pet "Water IV" <t>
/pet "Aero IV" <t>

CTRL 5: Damage I
/pet "Axe Kick" <t>
/pet "Burning Strike" <t>

Those are my macro set ups. I will indeed add more as I obtain the Avatars, but I rather not do so right away when I do not have them. As I said before, any suggestions made will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


Edited, Jan 1st 2010 8:45pm by DiscipleXIIV

Edited, Jan 1st 2010 8:47pm by DiscipleXIIV
#2 Jan 02 2010 at 12:04 AM Rating: Decent
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They do look ok, in terms of the fact that they have separate macros for each avatar (who wouldn't), but the /wait 10 and then assault section is interesting. I personally wouldn't use them, because it might be used in dangerous situations where you don't want the avatar to attack. For example, if there is a slept mob and you are resummoning, you would want to use Retreat, and not Assault, so it won't attack and wake the mob.

I never thought about setting them in the order of the days, but I do not think it matters. Generally, once you decide a pattern, you will get used to it and you will just know where each avatar is.

The Tier II magic macro is good, I used that for a long while and then just fixed it to Tier IV. You can also make a macro for the non AoE bloodpacts in the same method, so it will function the same as the Tier Magic macro.

I am going to share the way I do my macros, only because I find them to be the best way to play smn for me. It might not suit your play style. It did take me a while to make these macros.

Edit: Just find a macro style that works for you, I am just giving mine as an example. Once you find one that works, you will get accustomed to it and you will be fine.

I have a whole book for smn.

The first palette is the basic default pallete which has macros for Blood Pacts and White Magic on the CTRL section and all the avatars on the ALT section. I am only going to list the important ones.

CTRL 2 - Assault
/echo <pet>, Assault <t>
/pet "Assault" <t>

CTRL 3 - Release
/echo <pet>, Release
/pet "Release" <me>
/macro set 1
/equip Main "Light Staff"

CTRL 4 - Retreat
/echo <pet> Retreat
/pet "Retreat" <me>

CTRL 5 - Regen Macro
CTRL 6 - Erase Macro

CTRL 7 - Offesnive Blood Pact1
/pet "Axe Kick" <t>
/pet "Shock Strike" <t>
etc

CTRL 8 - Offensive Blood Pact2
/pet "Blizzard IV" <t>
/pet "Fire IV" <t>
etc

CTRL 9 - Elemental Siphon
I equip +summoning skill gear here, adjust as you have it.
/ja "Elemental Siphon" <me>


On the Alt macro, there is a macro for each avatar and it equips the appropriate staff and for Carbuncle Carby Mitts. On each macro for each avatar, all it does is say:

/echo (Element) Set
/macro set #
/equip Main "Element Staff"

Each avatar has its own palette. On mine, Ramuh is ALT 5. When I press it, it equips my Thunder Staff and then switches to macro palette 5, which is dedicated to Ramuh. To actually Summon Ramuh, I press ALT 5 again (So i just press ALT 5 twice to summon), and it will summon. Now, my ALT macros are blank mostly, except that ALT 9 and 0 are resting gear macros. ALT 1 summons a Thunder Spirit for Elemental Siphon. The spirit is the appropriate one for each palette.

The CTRL macros are pretty much exactly the same. Only, instead of all the blood pacts listed in the macro, I just have avatar specific ones, including the lv 70 blood pacts. This way, I can still use my Regen Macros etc, but still be using all the correct blood pacts, without having to spam my chat log more with blood pacts that will not go off. When I release the avatar, it equips my Light Staff and sends me back to palette 1, where I can summon again if I need to.

Additionally, on each avatar specific palette, the ALT line is empty except for resting gear, the spirit, and the avatar macro, so you can customize other blood pacts and avatar specific spells or whatever else you need.

This is just a general layout of my macros, which I hope you might find useful. Sorry if it is a bit confusing.


Edited, Jan 2nd 2010 1:11am by danjayr
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#3 Jan 02 2010 at 12:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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Take the /p out.
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#4 Jan 02 2010 at 2:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Thank you danjayr, your suggestions have helped along with your macro set as an example. Theres just not a lot I can set in as a 28SMN. As well as the arrangment of the Avatars in the order of days, I agree, it doesn't matter. But I really appreciate the help you have given me again danjayr. As for you Blankyy, I can understand the reason why you would say to take "/p" out when I summon, as it can be annoying or interrupt a player set for a SC or MB in the event.
#5 Jan 02 2010 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Np. And I didn't see the /p in there. I would take those too. You can put them to /echo if you really wanna see it. That way, you have any phrase you wanna see, but it doesn't spam the chatlog.

And I know you don't have a lot of these spells and abilities yet. You just add them in as you get them. But the ones that do apply to you will work out.
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#6 Jan 04 2010 at 9:51 AM Rating: Default
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Speaking of macros, I've again become confused by them.

I set up a simple "defense" macro saying the following:

/ma stoneskin <me>
/ma utsusemi: ni <me>
/ma utsusemi: ichi <me>

With the idea that it will take whatever I have and use it. First it seemed to work great since it did use utsusemi when I tested NIN sub, but then when I went back to WHM sub I noticed it failed to cast stoneskin. I have no idea why it worked with row 2 and not row 1. Also not sure if I ever managed to try casting ni when timer wasn't up to see if ichi was cast.

I'm a bit reluctant to adding waits to something I want to cast instantly.
#7 Jan 27 2010 at 10:06 PM Rating: Default
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Oh I love to see a SMN who understands how to stack BPs. For mine CTRL is used for Rage and ALT for buffs. Each macro "set" is devoted to 2 avatars so in my casting set I have gear swaps, /ma, then /macro set #. Each macro set has a macro for retreat, assault using both <bt> and <t> (some don't like it when they see that but it works for me) then a "Release" macro with a second line of "/macro set 1" to return me to the casting sets. Each macro set of pallets also has a macro to take me directly to my cure macros. I also have a BP macro and perp macro on each set.

Oh to save you future headaches whenever you change a macro when you logout use the CTRL+ALT+SHFT+B to save them to the server. I recently had to redo all 550 macros (whm smn blm rdm drg drk war bst dnc) because my comp crashed.

Edited, Jan 27th 2010 10:10pm by Shastal
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#8 Jan 28 2010 at 1:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Oh to save you future headaches whenever you change a macro when you logout use the CTRL+ALT+SHFT+B to save them to the server. I recently had to redo all 550 macros (whm smn blm rdm drg drk war bst dnc) because my comp crashed.


You should probably also tell them how to load them from server, or is that automatic?
#9 Jan 28 2010 at 11:42 AM Rating: Decent
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DiscipleXIIV wrote:
I've unlocked the SMN job a while back, and I've planned on taking it to 75 as well as another job I have in mind. But I'm currently taking a break and leveling my SMN. But I have my macros set up for the job, and I'm wondering how you fellow SMNs think of them. Currently, my SMN is only 28 I believe. And I have most of the spirits but Thunder, Light and Dark. As well as Ifrit, Titan, Shiva and Carbuncle. But anyways, here they are. Any suggestions made will be greatly appreciated for macro settings as I level.

ALT 1
/p Carbuncle
/ma "Carbuncle" <me>
/wait 10
/pet "Assault" <t>

ALT 2
/p Shiva
/ma "Shiva" <me>
/wait 10
/pet "Assault" <t>

ALT 3
/p Ifrit
/ma "Ifrit" <me>
/wait 10
/pet "Assault" <t>

ALT 4
/p Titan
/ma "Titan" <me>
/wait 10
/pet "Assault" <t>

ALT 9
/pet "Assault" <t>

ALT 0
/pet "Release" <me>

*Rest of the ALT macros are free. I plan on setting the Avatars in order of the days. But with Diabolos in, I may take Carbuncle out of the set.
As for CTRL macros, thats where I store in the Rage and Ward set.

CTRL 1: Debuff
/pet "Poison Nails" <t>

CTRL 2: Buff
/pet "Shining Ruby"

CTRL 3: Magic II
/pet "Blizzard II" <t>
/pet "Fire II" <t>
/pet "Stone II" <t>
/pet "Thunder II" <t>
/pet "Water II" <t>
/pet "Aero II" <t>
*seeing as how we SMNS know that the avatars only get Tier II and Tier IV spells. I set them in the set anyways, though I don't have them.

CTRL 4: Magic IV
/pet "Blizzard" IV" <t>
/pet "Fire IV" <t>
/pet "Stone IV" <t>
/pet "Thunder IV" <t>
/pet "Water IV" <t>
/pet "Aero IV" <t>

CTRL 5: Damage I
/pet "Axe Kick" <t>
/pet "Burning Strike" <t>

Those are my macro set ups. I will indeed add more as I obtain the Avatars, but I rather not do so right away when I do not have them. As I said before, any suggestions made will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


Edited, Jan 1st 2010 8:45pm by DiscipleXIIV

Edited, Jan 1st 2010 8:47pm by DiscipleXIIV


as a summoner myself ill give my advice on making SMN macros.

first and foremost, get rid of the "/p avatar name" before each macro. theres enough that flies by in the chat log, and needless spam just makes it harder. theres already a line that says "summoning avatar name" in yellow text (if you didn't change your font color).

also, get rid of the /assault in each of the summon macros. make a seperate macro for assault. there are times you do not want your avatar attacking. also, you will eventually notice that avatars melee'ing is a waste of MP unless you have almost all of the -perpetuation gear available. the best strategy for using an avatar is:
summon -> blood pact -> release -> rest -> repeat

your release macro is fine, however i also suggest you make a retreat macro. there are also times you want your avatar to follow you instead of trying to attack a mob or whatnot. or to get a mob away to a safer place ect.

now, in theory, your macros with all the spells in a sinle macro is nice, unless you feal like pressing a bunch of buttons to swap gear out i suggest making a macro for each spell seperate. what i do for my macro book btw, is use the first pallet for summoning avatars, this is my idle pallet. then the other 9 are used for each individual avatar.

for example, my wind blade macro looks like this:
swap tp BP timer gear
use wind blade
/wait 1
swap to magic acc/atck gear
/wait 4
swap to idle gear

with that setup for macros, i take advantage of reducing my blood pact timers, getting the max out of wind blade,and switch back into my normal idle gear, without having to time gear swaps in other macros.

also on a final note, try and make a good setup of macros now and not when you hit 75. re-making everything later from scratch is a nightmare. you should see my macros for SMN i did not have fun making those. they work effectively though.

almost forgot...my setup of macros only works on PC. if you want the ability to change multiple gear in a single macro line your going to need to be on PC with certain things. it doesn't work on ps2 or 360. if you are on those systems your stuck making a lot of macros to swap gear.

anyway, i hope my advice helps you. good luck with your SMN.
#10 Jan 28 2010 at 5:34 PM Rating: Good
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Using windower, the cleanest way to write macros (without resorting to spellcast) is to bind keys from your summoning macro. This avoids the old technique of spamming 1 BP from all avatars in a given macro.

For example:

ALT-1:
/ma fenrir <me>
//bind !7 input /ja "Ecliptic Howl" <me>
//bind !8 input /ja "Ecliptic Growl" <me>
//bind !9 input /ja "Eclipse Bite" <t>

This will program your CTRL-7 -> CTRL-9 macros to fenrir-specific BPs any time you summon Fenrir. You can reprogram them for any other avatar from a simple in-game macro as well.

If you're willing to use spellcast, then you can play more fancy tricks (for example, Mellowy's macro problem is easily solved by using Autoexec and/or spellcast to re-bind the stoneskin/utsusemi macro whenever a new subjob is selected)... but basic windower binds is a quick & dirty way to write clean SMN macros.

Edited, Jan 28th 2010 3:38pm by Hakamaru
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#11 Feb 02 2010 at 8:52 AM Rating: Good
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Well all these macro's are great idea's and ways to do what needs to be done. I personally took the long road..well the too long for it's own good road haha. I have a base macro set that has the macro's that summon the avatar and then goes to the macro set. Then on those macro's I have BP- gear macro, then activate the pact..that switches instantly to the dmg dealing gear for the BP's.

Of course I did all that after I asked here and tried out some results on it to make sure I got the full benefit. It's not big but since I have the gear..I do it. Then a home macro on each to switch to my cure macro set if I have to heal.

I agree what the people above said with the /p to each macro, I didn't take them all out I do make the /p when I do buffs that everyone likes to run away from..like Earthen Ward, Hastega or anything like that. It gets annoying when people are in red and I've got Carby ready to do a HR2 while I cast a DS/Curaga II and someone moves out of range just running in circles.

Mind you I don't have windower, but after looking at some of these ideas people are pushing out might thin out some of my macros. Thanks everyone.
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