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#1 Nov 14 2009 at 4:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Outlines how to pop it, how to kill it solo (as SMN) and hopefully you'll obtain these:

Morana's Pigaches
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DEF:10 INT+1
Shiva: Enhances magic accuracy
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#2 Nov 14 2009 at 4:59 PM Rating: Good
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Thank you for this. ^^
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#3 Nov 14 2009 at 6:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I've fought it once but didn't get any shoes. It does indeed hit hard so you have to be skilled if you intend on soloing. (I did it in a group and we had some issues since it was the first time).

Expect to be hit for about 100-140 per swing with your usual chigoe attack speed. The solo suggestion of using Utsusemi might work well if you are good at using them. I'd probably wipe if I attempted it solo.

Helpers don't seem to link with NM, you can kill them first (assuming you can tell the difference between a chigoe and a chigoe.)

I did this fight COR, RDM, BLM and the BLM got eaten a few times.

A person I met earlier that day got the boots, so hopefully it isn't too bad drop rate, and people can get them somewhat fast compared with the old YY robe addition.

I also foolishly hope only people who focus on Heavenly Strike will bother with it... but so many people are completionists and would probably camp it just to have it for that once in a blue moon when they pull out shiva and use astral flow.
#4 Nov 14 2009 at 8:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Just attempted to solo this NM now as SMN/WHM as i dont have 37 NIN for ni yet...

It is possible to kite this by avoiding the other Chigoe spots... just avoid other aggro, unfortunately thats what happened to me.

Blink / Shadows does work very well especially when recasting avatar as it catches up to you. It appears to cast as soon as it sees you again. Casting Ichi takes too long as it doesnt take long to dispatch of your avatar.

As the OP states in the link, NIN sub with utsu: ni is the way to go for soloing this NM... and watch the other mobs for aggro :(
#5 Nov 14 2009 at 9:11 PM Rating: Good
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I am working on my Heavenly Strike 5/5, but also I wouldn't mind this for sleepga, when I do use it. It would be nice to have the extra magic accuracy on it. Beyond that, you're right only people who want smn gear just to have will want this.

I plan on getting some finishing touches on my smn and going out to try this with hopefully some pet help.
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#6 Nov 15 2009 at 2:43 PM Rating: Good
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Here is very soloable. I've been doing him as RDM/NIN. Unfortunately, the drop rates seems terrible. I'm 0/8 and I had a 75thf for 4 of those fights. I also lost claim 3 other times. All in all I've seen the drops go 1/11.

If you stay along the wall you can avoid the other chigoe in the area and *probably* the treants as well and pull it to a safer location. Stops quite often to cast magic and will depop while casting Flare or other spells if you are too far away. Be mindful of that as you will not be able to target it again and will have to re-aggro it.

Shadows are absolutely the way to go. Firaga is the main threat to your safety. I would recommend using Ifrit. He took minimal damage from all the fire spells, while Leviathan still got hit very hard. (I also fought him twice as a SMN)Flaming Crush did 1200+ damage. I haven't tried soloing him, but I would imagine 2hr and our mp drinks would be needed. You'd need 5-6 70 pacts to kill it.

Hope everyone has better luck than me!
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#7 Nov 16 2009 at 10:28 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm now 0/15 on this NM, 3 times with a TH 4 but most of the time solo. I usually had about 200mp left, and don't be worried about using avatar's favor if you can get down to a free fenrir (it will definitely save you more mp than the small amount of damage lost). Time your siphons if you need to as well, i'd usually pull out spirit and switch to siphon gear and let it fight until it does using day/weather relic to reduce cost.



I'm really disgusted with these droprates. Anyone who gets the item within 1-3 attempts of killing their NM should count themselves very lucky.

1/11 smn belt

0/15 morana's

0/5 fenrir's crown

0/9 surge subligar (pup)

0/3 astrolabe

1/5 fidelity mantle

This is how bad my drop rates have been with these new NM's. Be warned that you may be in for the long haul if you camp these.
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#8 Nov 16 2009 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
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And I thought I was unlucky at 0/3.

I've killed it different ways and so far the best was SAM just zerging it. It is dead after a volley of WSes (that would be WS->WS->WS->WS->WS-WS). Duoed it on SMN with another SMN and it went quite bad, even if it doesn't have to end bad.

First loss, firega III to the head (thought he was aiming for pet)
Second loss, treeant aggro.
Won on third attempt.

It is probably easier to solo, since you don't have to run up near it and assault when it is on your friends avatar (or your friend). I too were thinking that perhaps ifrit or levi would be a better choice since fire spells killed many pets, and especially firega III on pets were bad when duoing since it means it will go for one of us.

I think I could probably solo it on COR though, with enough cards and just kite and wait on him to get near, shoot as he casts spell and run again.
#9 Nov 16 2009 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I wonder how the magic accuracy compares to summoning skill from Nashira/Marduk.

Anyone look into the Fidelity and Affinity earrings yet? Mostly what activates the latents?
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#10 Nov 16 2009 at 12:44 PM Rating: Good
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Mostly what activates the latents?


Apparently it's having that job in the PT. For the Enhances Pet Attack/Accuracy it's PUP and BST. This means its pretty much worthless for us.
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#11 Nov 16 2009 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
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I want to scream obsenities at SE, but I'm at work.
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#12 Nov 16 2009 at 3:23 PM Rating: Decent
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jlejeune wrote:
I wonder how the magic accuracy compares to summoning skill from Nashira/Marduk.

Anyone look into the Fidelity and Affinity earrings yet? Mostly what activates the latents?


I'd assume it is 10 or 14 Macc, and post 300ish skill it would be 1 skill 0.9 M.acc I guess? Or how does those formula tend to be? Would be like 20 skill at best perhaps.
#13 Nov 16 2009 at 4:30 PM Rating: Good
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shadowkind wrote:
I'm now 0/15 on this NM, 3 times with a TH 4 but most of the time solo. I usually had about 200mp left, and don't be worried about using avatar's favor if you can get down to a free fenrir (it will definitely save you more mp than the small amount of damage lost). Time your siphons if you need to as well, i'd usually pull out spirit and switch to siphon gear and let it fight until it does using day/weather relic to reduce cost.



I'm really disgusted with these droprates. Anyone who gets the item within 1-3 attempts of killing their NM should count themselves very lucky.

1/11 smn belt

0/15 morana's

0/5 fenrir's crown

0/9 surge subligar (pup)

0/3 astrolabe

1/5 fidelity mantle

This is how bad my drop rates have been with these new NM's. Be warned that you may be in for the long haul if you camp these.



I feel your pain. I'm 0/18 on this guy and 0/2 on fenrir's crown. I went 1/3 on smn belt so I will thank my lucky stars. I don't know if I have the heart (or the stomach) to camp any more of these NMs if all of the drop rates are this bad.

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#14 Nov 16 2009 at 4:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mellowy wrote:
I'd assume it is 10 or 14 Macc, and post 300ish skill it would be 1 skill 0.9 M.acc I guess? Or how does those formula tend to be? Would be like 20 skill at best perhaps.
It's always 1:1 Skill:MAcc, Magic Accuracy doesn't follow the same rules as weapon skills and accuracy.
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#15 Nov 17 2009 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
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jlejeune wrote:
Mellowy wrote:
I'd assume it is 10 or 14 Macc, and post 300ish skill it would be 1 skill 0.9 M.acc I guess? Or how does those formula tend to be? Would be like 20 skill at best perhaps.
It's always 1:1 Skill:MAcc, Magic Accuracy doesn't follow the same rules as weapon skills and accuracy.


Considering it is summoning magic I think anything is possible.
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You asked how the formula tended to be, and it's always 1:1 for all other magic.
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#17 Nov 17 2009 at 8:00 PM Rating: Good
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I am now 0/27 on this NM. I give up. This is ridiculous.
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#18 Nov 18 2009 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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jlejeune wrote:
You asked how the formula tended to be, and it's always 1:1 for all other magic.


Yea, but our "magic" also is said to give 0.9 melee accuracy on BPs. So we could be different just because SE likes to play games with us.
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0/16 smn belt
0/2 morana's
0/3 fenrir's crown
0/9 fidelity mantle


I'm really starting to QQ :(
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1/29 Morana's Pigaches finally :)

Stack those along with my 7 M.acc shantotto pants, relic+1 gloves and smn skill gear, ACP body with 7 M.acc/MAB and it's gonna be great. Now if only i could get that MAB earring from ACP fight. Rotten luck on that always.
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#21 Nov 19 2009 at 10:03 AM Rating: Good
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shadowkind wrote:
1/29 Morana's Pigaches finally :)

Stack those along with my 7 M.acc shantotto pants, relic+1 gloves and smn skill gear, ACP body with 7 M.acc/MAB and it's gonna be great. Now if only i could get that MAB earring from ACP fight. Rotten luck on that always.



Congratulations!!! I'm 0/30 now ;; I'm near the end of my rope but you're givng me hope! :)
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#22 Nov 19 2009 at 10:17 AM Rating: Decent
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shadowkind wrote:
1/29 Morana's Pigaches finally :)

Stack those along with my 7 M.acc shantotto pants, relic+1 gloves and smn skill gear, ACP body with 7 M.acc/MAB and it's gonna be great. Now if only i could get that MAB earring from ACP fight. Rotten luck on that always.


Wonder which HNM would be best to test the resist rates on. Need to be fairly resistant, but not very resistant. Sadly I just remember mobs without resistance and with extreme resistance.
#23 Dec 25 2009 at 7:40 PM Rating: Decent
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I've camped the Summoning belt NM for about 10 hours(in 2 5hr stints) without it even popping >.>

Edited, Dec 25th 2009 8:45pm by theIronQuitter
#24 Jan 02 2010 at 4:06 AM Rating: Decent
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This guy is pretty tough to solo as SMN imo. Definately possible tho, I had him down to about 20% first try. Still, I would recommend getting a SMN friend to duo with you then do it until you both get drop. You could be at this for awhile and its so much quicker and easier to duo him.

*edit*

Forgot to mention my droprates incase anyones trying to do some math.

1/5 Fenrir's Crown
1/6 Morana's pigaches
0/11 Summoning belt


Edited, Jan 2nd 2010 5:16am by Sornstarguh
#25 Jan 04 2010 at 9:53 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm still surprised I haven't seen any tests done on these. Personally I don't have them because I never have any luck with drops. (0/8)
#26 Jan 09 2010 at 9:37 AM Rating: Default
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0/12. Can't remember the last time I had this fun in FFXI.

What is the average drop on this fellow anyway? 1/15?
#27 Jan 12 2010 at 6:30 AM Rating: Decent
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From what I've seen and heard (and therefore prolly by no means even close to accurate) I'd give about all the new NMs a 1/20 droprate. I got lucky it seems on first two but Ranponneau made me pay dearly with a big 1/21...
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