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#1 Aug 13 2009 at 7:01 AM Rating: Good
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OK, so it's "official" as official can be after being promised a new avatar(s). New avatars have been more recently confirmed but many SMNs are **** well ****** off with not having them yet.

That being said, comparing the evidence and drawing them together shows the following:
* Fanfest 2007 - new avatarS (stressing plural) in the making.
* 1UP Interview (June 19 2008) - MG: First of all, as for new avatars, new summons, we can't say much yet. But we can say that there will be new summons, and yes, I said that in the plural. As for these new type of avatars that will be released. They will be a little bit different from the ones that already exist. They won't be as ability-based, or ability heavy. For example, the ones that we have now, they have like six or seven abilities per avatar. The new ones won't have as many.
*Fanfest 2008 - Gondai/Matsui/Ito: We are in the process of creating 2 new avatars. One will be a "Large big pet".
* Dengeki Interview (June 24 2009) - "long-awaited new Avatar is just around the corner"

First thing to note, the number has dropped to 1, most likely meaning the 2nd one will be released at a later date or has been scrapped. Since this idea of a new avatar(s) has been around since ToAU came out, it wouldn't be a far cry away from saying it'll be a ToAU summon, aka Odin and/or Alexander, which fits a "large big pet".

What abilities would this new avatar have? Well, you can already fight them:

Odin
* Casts Sleepga II, Breakga, Blindga, Bindga, Blizzard IV, Blizzaga III, Blizzaga IV, Slowga, Paralyga, and Dread Spikes
* Gagnrath: Front-AoE damage and Terror.
* Valfodr: AoE damage and Curse + Silence.
* Ofnir: AoE damage.
* Yggr: Gives Odin the ability to Intimidate players.
* Geirrothr: AoE damage similar to 10,000 Needles plus bind.
* Sanngetall: AoE damage and dispel that dispells all buffs.
AF* Zantetsuken: An Astral Flow like ability. Will be used when approximately 9% of his HP is remaining. This move will deal death to all members within a 30' radius around him.


Alexander
* Casts Holy II, Diaga III, Dia III, Banishga III, and Banish IV.
* Divine Spear: Low Damage single target move which has an additional effect of attack -25%.
* Radiant Sacrament: Targeted AoE physical damage (200-400 damage), wipes Utsusemi and Additional Effect: Magic Defense Down.
* Mega Holy: Area of Effect light damage.
* Void of Repentance: Single target Terror for several (over 15) seconds.
* Gospel of the Lost: Heals Alexander for around 900-1100 HP and removes debuffs.
* Perfect Defense Complete immunity to magical, physical, and/or ranged attacks for a short period of time.
AF* Divine Judgment: AoE 1000+ damage with very large AoE radius


And in case you're an Cait Sith and/or Atomos fan..

Cait Sith
* Regal Scratch: Single target damage.
* Divine Favor: Full Erase.
* Mewing Lullaby: AoE Sleep and TP reset.
* Eerie Eye: Amnesia and Silence.
* Level ? Holy: AOE Holy. This is die-based (1-6), dealing anywhere from 300 to in excess of 2000 damage.

Atomos
Soul Vacuum: AoE All stats down.
Soul Infusion: Grants drained stats to Summoner

What do you think we'll get when that glorious day finally arrives?

Edited, Aug 14th 2009 10:32am by kegsay
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#2 Aug 13 2009 at 7:29 AM Rating: Good
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I still want ******* Bahamut. I don't care what they say about tarnishing his power.
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#3 Aug 13 2009 at 8:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Whichever avatar we get, it'd be nice if they had either a refreshga ability or a restore-MP ability. Either of these abilities would benefit other MP-using party members, but for the sake of balance, would not land on Summoners. This might make SMN a more desirable choice in xp parties.
#4 Aug 14 2009 at 4:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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I believe you left out the quote from the 2008 Fanfest that said, "by this time next year, you won't be asking for Avatars, you'll be asking how to use them" or some such...

That one is my favorite.
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#5 Aug 14 2009 at 6:24 AM Rating: Good
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Add atomos to that list, because i'm fairly certain thats the one were getting;(
#6 Aug 14 2009 at 6:31 AM Rating: Good
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I will, but from the looks of it, Atomos has little to no decent BPs at all:

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Atomos

Soul Vacuum: AoE All stats down.
Soul Infusion: Grants drained stats to Summoner
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#7 Aug 15 2009 at 3:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Personally I think we're getting Atomos due to the WotG missions even though we've been promised new Avatars since before ToAU.
I think it's a bit unfair at how we're most likely only going to get 1 new avatar now, or 1 now and another a few years down the line (knowing SE).
Would be nice if the new avatar makes SMN wanted for more things.
#8CommanderKing, Posted: Aug 15 2009 at 9:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So these are the SMN forums ehh?
#9 Aug 15 2009 at 12:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Siren and I will forgive them for taking so long.

Anything else and they'll hear complaints even if it ***** lightning.
#10 Aug 16 2009 at 12:53 AM Rating: Decent
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I hope it's Alexander, because I want a Cure Potency Neck/Belt or a scroll of Holy II for doing the fight, for my WHM, like how you can get items from the current avatar fights.
#11 Aug 16 2009 at 4:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Y'all gotta learn how SE works. Wait until they announce the date for Fan Fest. Subtract 1 day. You now have the day of the update that contains the avatar.

That way they can release something disappointing, but since the people at fan fest won't get the chance to have the avatar, they can't asking ******** questions about it for a year.
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#12 Aug 16 2009 at 6:29 AM Rating: Good
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It's as if they promised multiple avatars just to shut us up.

#13 Aug 16 2009 at 10:27 AM Rating: Decent
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I would say that abilities like Refresh, but wouldnt that compete with rdm? I dont think that SE would do something like that. I know we can hope though. I like summoner above any other caster in game, next to blm that is. But at the same time, id like to be more vaulable as a smn than just pulling mobs in limbus to prevent links, or being more useful in more egls events period. I guess we can hope for the best.
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#14 Aug 16 2009 at 3:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Don't worry about refresh. It would be 100 MP to cast it, and you'd get 1 MP per tick back for X minutes, where X depends on real life time. So the best refresh will only be between 4 AM and 8 AM and it will suck horribly at 4 PM to 10 PM.

Because SE knows how to turn anything into an unused ward.
#15 Aug 16 2009 at 10:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Alexsander seems most likely.

Why?

Because he is light-based and the only other avatar that's light-based is Carbuncle. Meanwhile we have TWO dark-based avatars, so it only seems fitting to have another light-based one.

And since its a giant machine, it would fit well as a tank-based avatar. Something that can stand up to even the most dangerous of HNMs! That would be great...
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#16 Aug 16 2009 at 10:22 PM Rating: Good
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Ennoyvl wrote:
I would say that abilities like Refresh, but wouldnt that compete with rdm?
You mean like BRD, COR, and to a lesser extent SCH or /SCH?
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#17 Aug 17 2009 at 1:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Would be interesting with alexander as a ranged avatar though. Assault and he stays at 19 distance and just shoots those MDEF down lasers like in the BC.
#18 Aug 17 2009 at 5:29 AM Rating: Good
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Alexander..yes. I'd like to use another light avatar instead of carby. Make the heals decent, the damage good and the debuffs last a while..including terror. I'm not asking for a 20 second terror but a 5..8..something along those lines!!

As it stands I use the avatar of the day and got so much gear that I use each avatar differently, lightsday is a pain because all I got is carby so I go to other avatars.

Cait Sith would be interested but nobody trusts our AoE sleeps..and the only perk I see is the Amnesia on other mobs and that's only if it lasts a while even if it's only a minute. 30 seconds..but knowing S.E it will be on for 3..and we wait until our timer is off.

What i'm more curious about is asking "how" we'll be using them. Will they put in an odd system like Fenrir's pacts / moon phase? or will they actually have a new summoning system to try out to see if it beneits our avatars, and if it works go to apply it to all of ours?
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#19 Aug 18 2009 at 11:47 AM Rating: Good
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The phrase "just around the corner" is slightly less vague than the previous statements they've been making for years. I'm not going to get psyched up about this.
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#20 Aug 22 2009 at 7:46 AM Rating: Good
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It's as if they promised multiple avatars just to shut us up.


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#21 Sep 12 2009 at 10:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Will 2 large big avatars b released in FF14?

We hv waited from 2007 ,now it is 2009. /sigh
#22 Sep 13 2009 at 2:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Will 2 large big avatars b released in FF14?

We hv waited from 2007 ,now it is 2009. /sigh


That would be a hilarious joke. "Hey guys, we meant "to FF14". No hard feelings."

Of course I think they simply read my posts and know I'm not quitting until they add new avatars and they want my money.
#23 Sep 13 2009 at 8:03 PM Rating: Decent
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techincally....

They have released 2 new avatars...

Cait Seth and Atmos are avatars...


We just gotta figure out how to use them!??

Ugh dont you hate it when SE is right!

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