Do I need Carby mitts? Follow

I don't know how awesome you are, but I haven't seen anyone solo the fight.

As for the item itself, it is mainly used for body guard carby, farming and kiting. It has very little impact on a party (then again, do SMNs get parties these days?)

It isn't essential for everything, but it is essential for:

Soloing pre 70

Carbuncle bodyguard

looking awesome

You'd be crazy to try and solo the NM and I don't think I've ever heard of it being done since the NM Astral Flows right off the bat (and I believe he does it more than once).

Find other people that want the mitts (because I'm sure they exist) or people that know their way around to help you. You only need one key or one person that knows how to open the door otherwise.

MOAR MITTENS!!!!!!!!!

Pop items easy to get fights easy with a large mob. Get them you will be happy you did.

Definitely a needed item, at least at some point.

I waited until like level 60 and got them when I spent a day getting my AF, which I got some sh*t over, lol.

Anyways, don't bother getting the key. It's such a bitch.

If you hit a monster that's behind the door, the monster will open the door when it comes to attack you.

Easiest way to target through the door:

Use Windower, and type //fillmode 1.

You'll be able to see through walls with this feature and there should definitely be something to pull through one of the doors with Dia/Ranged Attack within ~5min.

Don't try and do it without fillmode, will take too long. //fillmode 0 when you're done.

(Sorry if this is against the forum rules... definitely not detectable ingame however)

As for the fight, get a couple friends. Getting there is annoying, but if you get your pop item first, take control, lead, and open the door with the above method nobody should have a problem taking 20 min. to come help out.

I trio'd with MNK, DRG, and me on WHM. Not difficult at all.

Just a little info on the Mitts in case you don't know; eliminates half of Carbuncle's Avatar Perpetuation Cost. This means that with a couple of pieces you can make Carbuncle free - if you have a Refresh body (Yinyang Robe, Marduk's Jubbah, Vermillion Cloak) you can even get +1 MP/tick while Carbuncle is out. Very useful for soloing/kiting etc.
Especially if you're low on MP. You can just kite with Carbuncle and regain MP over time with the Refresh + Elemental Siphon (/Sublimation)

Edited, Jul 22nd 2009 8:20am by Poubelle

Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Hell, yes!



Longer answer:
While they are an amazing MP piece from 20-50, level 51 is when Carbuncle Mitts truly become irreplaceable.
From 51-75, you can combine them with other equipment (Light Staff, Austere Robe) to perpetuate Carbuncle for zero MP. It's highly unlikely you'll get kicked from a party for not having them, but don't underestimate the value of a free Carbuncle!

Bottom line: get them as early as you reasonably can, but don't worry too much if you don't have them before 51.

The mitts are very much worth the effort and time to get. Using just Carbuncle and Carbuncle Mitts, Vermillion Cloak, with a Light Staff I managed to solo the Bloody Coffin NM Crab in the CoP area. I was running around looking at stuff when I forgot I had the quest activated well over a year or two ago, checked the ??? spot and found that crab running my butt down. It took awhile but without those mitts I would've never been able to pull that off. I did this as a 59SMN/15THF btw... (Was killing Gigas for drops in the area with THF sub.)

Woah, "Don't even try this unless you use third-party tools to modify the walls," eh? I was able to open the door through a magic-aggro (enfire) instantly. This was about five months ago.