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A career or single-job SMN could have some fun with this. DT-10% and Regen makes for a solid tanking piece, Haste for TP or general melee. I don't know if I'd want to give up 7 Summoning skill for Crit+3 though, I'm still hurting for BP acc on P.Claws in general.

Don't forget the BP Timer -3, either. Matches Summoner's Horn and Penance hat. So... maybe we can forget it. :P

SMN's biggest problem is, I think, we don't do enough of any one thing. Especially career SMNs. Our avatars can double as tanks, especially VT and down, but that doesn't happen all the time. We don't melee all the time, a good chunk is summon-BP-release. About the only two pieces I'd see getting the most use is Haste (since you need TP for magic, and general melee is never bad), or Crit+3 (ignoring the AF Horn and just solely looking at the augments).

Honestly, I'm intrigued but underwhelmed. The DT-10% and Regen are interesting, especially considering we can't get them anywhere else.

Also look! Acc+3!

Edit: Also remember the Cure+3%. One of the few non-pet augments that, you know, work for us. Another ~10 HP is never bad, especially if you have WHM, RDM, or SCH.

Edited, Jun 29th 2009 10:12am by jlejeune

Am I the only one that likes it? :'(

I guess nostalgia helps.

It doesn't really compare to a Penance Hat or Summoner's Horn, though, as was said above.

(Edit: I mean, it wouldn't be worth it to select that option because we can get similar stats elsewhere)

Edited, Jun 29th 2009 12:38pm by Poubelle

^

I'm also glad it's not another mandatory SMN piece. I went with a SMN bodypiece for ACP because it's so amazingly powerful compared to existing options. However, WHM is and always will be my main, so I'm glad it looks like I'll get to do a WHM piece.

HOWEVER, there's one element which hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread. SE said a while ago that their new summons would be somehow "different" in terms of usage. So this will have a huge impact on my decision, because it looks like some of these pet bonuses would work well if we used our avatars differently. For example pet haste, right now seems rather useless since majority of our damage comes from BP/release. However, if the new avatar doesn't have BPs we may be leaving it out for longer periods and haste may make more sense. Similarly, the new avatar may not be a DD avatar but a tanking avatar, in which case the pet damage taken modifier may be a godsend. The new summon could have a drastic effect on this choice.

I'm thinking:

Accuracy +3
Pet: Haste 5%
and
STR+4
Weapon Skill Accuracy +15

or

Accuracy +3
Pet: Haste 5%
and
Accuracy +10
Attack +5

Both should be excellent melee pieces when you want to keep avatars out. I already got two horns for most pacts, -BP delay or -perpetuation. What I'm lacking is a good melee piece (and haste on pet).

I wonder how good accuracy I'd get up to if I removed the macc/mab and added +10 accuracy on my body.

I am considering

-Accuracy +3 Pet: Haste +5%
-Accuracy +3 Pet: Critical hit rate +3%

this with will help more all my avatars in melee (I like to solo a lot), while they tank and melee at same time this will be a nice boost. Example this setup on garuda will be a nice toy using Hastega she will be with 20% haste speed and adding the critical rate making it more juicy.

Edited, Jun 30th 2009 3:13pm by Leonardito

Doesn't seem like a very SMN-friendly hat. The pet augments like haste, critical hits, regen, damage taken-10% are all things that help over the long term. Probably good for BST and PUP since they rely on their pets to do damage over longer periods of time, but for us SMNs that mostly just summon-pact-release, they all fall sort of flat. Maybe if predator claws could critically hit... but no.

Kind of a shame.

Pred Claws relies heavily upon crits to do its damage. When you see Pred Claws land for less than 100 damage, that usually means 2 misses and one non-crit. When you see ~150 damage, that usually means 1 miss and 2 non-crits. When you see ~250 damage, that usually means all 3 hits landed but none were crit. Anything in the 500+ range means you had at least one crit. In other words, without crit, they are basically just 3 normal melee attacks.

Most likely just not a big enough test sample. It is something like 2-3% after all, and you are trying to apply it to the most undocumented and random damage ability in the game.

I'm still saying the evoker's boots from KSNM is crit too, just too hard to actually notice it.

Hmmmmmm...

That could be what I am thinking of.

If I got this for SMN, I think I would go

Fastcast +3%
Blood Pact delay -3

M.Acc +3
MP while healing +3

and sell Penance Hat and Mirror Tiara.

But that wouldn't really be an upgrade, just an extra 800k in pocket. I'm gonna have to go with BST again. Defending ring for BST pet would actually mean something, almost always, unlike avatars.

Edited, Jul 3rd 2009 5:15am by Nazantia

Something just occurred to me when I was thinking about the DT -10% augment. It's already been proven that avatars have a natural DT -50%. This is either a very good thing, or a very bad thing. Assuming there is no cap for avatars, this means that the DT augment would actually be a -20% reduction of damage taken by avatars (from 50% normal to 40% normal.) However, according to this the cap on damage taken is -50%, which would technically mean that avatars were already at cap. Just my two cents.

Certainly is a unique stat to augment, especially for avatars.

But since it effectively acts like -5%, ehhh, I don't think it's worth it for me use an augment slot instead of something for a different job.