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#1 Mar 15 2009 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
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I've just returned to the game recently, but don't have enough time to party. I was just curious as to how the ep-dc exp boost and FoV, plus Besieged and Campaign, has affected SMN's solo ability.

I know it would be slower than say, BLM or BST, but do you think SMN would be able to semi-reasonably solo from 1-75 now?
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#2 Mar 15 2009 at 8:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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FoV would have been nice when I was soloing my smn in the mid 30s to late 40s. Those were slow going lvls of unbelievable slowness.

not much else would be changed from what I did before, I dont think.

50s+ Id probably still do bombs and the occasional besieged..wouldnt touch campaign til I could get reraise :/ even then campaign full time did eventually drive me bonkers, I did vunkerl inlet bombs on iceday and lightningsday just to mix things up. I dinged 75 on uleguerand range with alot of anniversary ring and emperor band charges.

Its perty slow and I was an overly slow lvler due to my lack of time, but yeah its reasonable, I guess. My only complaint was bombs seem to not want to drop kindred seals! you'd think you'd be able to get an entire stack of 99 just because you're soloing but nooooo.
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#3 Mar 15 2009 at 2:55 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I'll have the same problem. I'm soloing because I don't have the time for partying any more. If possible though, SMN sounded interesting to try to solo.
I may try it then. Just have to finish soloing WHM to 30 first. xD
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#4 Mar 16 2009 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
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working you're way through bombs and snolls solo can be great exp. in all honesty i found it faster exp than some parties can manage at certain levels,

the only draw back is its heavily dependant on luck. if you are lucky you can kill 10 bombs in 10 minutes and net close to 4k exp without a band. then ya might find the next 10 bombs are complete pains in the **** and just will not self destruct. thus might take you 30-45 mins to kill 10 and maybe get 2k exp.

but adding all 20 of those bombs together your looking at 6k/hour exp, which is a fairly reasonable average i find without band charges. you gotta be really unlucky if every single bomb/snoll you fight refuses to self destruct fairly quick lol,

my personal record solo is chain 11 on volcanic gasses, but then ive had the extreme opposite where i once killed 6 bombs back to back with carbys meleee cos they wouldnt blow up at all.

but then ive also had exp parties that have been so slow exp feels like its going backwards. thus its not a bad job to solo imo,
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#5 Mar 18 2009 at 10:36 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm leveling Smn, lv 43 atm.

From lv 30 to lv 43 took me around 1 month, in sessions of 1-2 hours per day (2k-3k exp with exp ring per session)

It's a little slow, but it can be done in FoV.
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#6 Mar 19 2009 at 10:17 AM Rating: Good
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What about soloing SMN XP@75?

SMN isn't exactly the indemand job for merit parties and your going to lose XP at some point, so anyone possibly know some spots that are good @75?

Also for the op, ifrits cauldron is a good spot on bombs, good for 50-70 I heard.

#7 Mar 19 2009 at 10:29 AM Rating: Decent
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What about soloing SMN XP@75?

SMN isn't exactly the indemand job for merit parties and your going to lose XP at some point, so anyone possibly know some spots that are good @75?

Also for the op, ifrits cauldron is a good spot on bombs, good for 50-70 I heard.


At 75... think your best bet is Campaign for Exp & Besieged for Skill. Just like any other job at 75.
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#8 Mar 19 2009 at 3:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Imps in the mire, I can get 7-7.5k/hr (no band) solo, quite simple to chain 4 there.
#9 Mar 19 2009 at 5:39 PM Rating: Good
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Campaign + imps in the mire. I tend to have more fun soloing imps (plus, Im always desperate for kindreds seals and imperial standing and skillups), though a mistake will leave you with some exp loss >.> campaign would be safer but its rough going without spirit taker.

I got my smn buffer capped at 75 pretty much by soloing imps before einherjar right outside hazhalm testing grounds. I dont get to go to einherjar as a smn, but its something fun to do waiting for it to start.

edit just because somebody mentioned chains: The highest chain Ive ever gotten, Im really not sure..probably a chain6 off of vunkerl bombs 62-70, I always had to sit and rest at about chain5. With exp bands, I could get about 12-14k exp for 2 hours, that is if you are there for the entirety of iceday and lightningsday.

My proudest chain was a chain5 off of goblins outside ifrits cauldron in the late 50s. Sometimes Id run out of bombs near the entrance to IC and I didnt want to risk running too far in only to have bombs pop on my kiting path, so Id run outside and kill the DC goblins to have something to do. I got lucky and they kept exploding on me, I was never able to repeat that. Its alot of fun when that happens though.

Edited, Mar 19th 2009 9:45pm by Glddaisy
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#10 Mar 20 2009 at 6:00 AM Rating: Good
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Level sync has really screwed with my summoning magic skill ups, that and combined with being asked to heal and nothing else for parties its a bit behind.

Would it be a good idea to go to mire with a low skill or work on skilling it up then going?

Also do you guys use fenrir or another arvatar? I still need fenrir should be getting it done in the next day or so...
#11 Mar 20 2009 at 7:14 AM Rating: Good
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Soloing didnt exactly help my skill ups either. On bombs all you use is carby, and he autoattacks until he dies and then you resummon him so he can autoattack til he dies. This doesnt get you many skill ups.

imps, I pretty much only use garuda. You could try Leviathan because he's supposed to be very resistant to amnesia..but I have more gear for garuda, she's usually more mp efficient. I dont know how low your skill is but all I can really see it hurting is your ele siphon. Imps are a great source of skillups..and so is besieged!

Ive never really used fenrir for anything. When I was soloing in my 30s, I used fenrir to kill EP-DC mobs in altepa and then Id use him for the Pulling the Strings ENM. But thats about all that Ive used him for D: everything else Ive pretty much used carby and garuda.
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#12 Mar 20 2009 at 10:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Glddaisy wrote:
Sometimes Id run out of bombs near the entrance to IC and I didnt want to risk running too far in only to have bombs pop on my kiting path


if you spend a little time in ifrits learning the way around then repops are pretty much never a problem and the increased number of mobs can lead to faster exp.

if my targets were the volcanic gas type bombs, then i would enter ifrits using the eastern entrance and take the first right turning and my first target is the volcanic gas that roams near the flame spout. Then head south again past the entrance and is usually a second bomb roaming this path somewhere which i'd kill and then head north again to the point on the map where the ??? is for one of the bastok missions. Sometimes theres a bomb close to the edge that makes a good 3rd target. id kill that if possible or carry on south and west coming into the open area with another bomb and the tunnel accross from you has another bomb in there.

after killing all these and exiting the tunnel (point B on map1) you find yourself in the centre of the volcano where theres yet another bomb and the alter of ashes close to you, taking one of the two tunnels near the alter will take you toward the western zone entrance map i would proceed through here killing the bombs on the way and then take the path (pointK on map3) towards the bomb queen spawn point. at this point sneak becomes very important all the time not just at night, you can proceed west (point L on map 7, along this route somewhere youll start to encounter volcaninc bombs, a tougher version of the volcanic gas mobs but your route should be heading towards point E and then on to A on the respective maps and you'll find your self coming out back near the first flame spout and the position of the first bomb that you killed repopped and ready for you to start the circle again.

i got chain 6-7 several times following this route and on occasion i've even made it round the full loop back to the first flame spout before the first bomb has repopped, then when your levels get higher at the point where you come back into the centre of the volcano at point E you can start to venture down path H and proceed to kill the Volcanic Bombs (tougher mobs than volcanic gas) and take a slightly different loop around the zone.

a big plus point to taking these routes is that you pass virtually all the coffer pop points so any keys you pick up along the way can net you some gils quite easily and then theres also the pop items for the bomb queen, I'd made about 6 full pop sets plus a few spare ashes in the course of my soloing adventures, by the time id bazaared those plus opened all the coffers id found on my treks i must've made about 600k gils :D
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#13 Mar 20 2009 at 12:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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I tried kiting bombs in Ifrit's Cauldron for a while when I was in the mid-50's, but it was sooooo slow. Although some bombs would self-destruct within minutes, most of the ones I kited refused to die and would keep me running for 10-15 minutes before they finally exploded. Djinns are so much faster, and a lot more satisfying to blow up. I literally flew from level 58 to level 70 - it's mostly just a blurr now. All I remember is that it was a lot of fun. Now I'm just taking a break to skillup before I fight Maat.
#14 Mar 20 2009 at 9:28 PM Rating: Good
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if you spend a little time in ifrits learning the way around then repops are pretty much never a problem and the increased number of mobs can lead to faster exp.



I did learn my way around >.> I was there for nearly 10 lvls or so. I personally started on what I call the "bunny slopes" and I stayed near the zone til I felt comfortable to move on. I assure you I was used to pop respawn times and such by the time I left

I usually only ever went to that second camp near the other yhoater zone line when somebody else was soloing at the first camp.
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#15 Mar 20 2009 at 10:00 PM Rating: Good
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50s+ Id probably still do bombs and the occasional besieged..wouldnt touch campaign til I could get reraise :/


You can have reraise at any level in campaign. Just go to a zone controlled by your affiliate nation, talk to the C.A. and select temporary items. A scroll of reraise is only 30 AN. If you need in a zone that is beastmen controlled, the dispenser NPCs hand em out for cheap too. It kills me to see tons of dead people waiting for raise in campaign when they could've just gotten a RR scroll.

Its pretty hard to beat the mindless XP in campaigns like Garlaige Citadel. There are 3 fortifications there and each group of Yagudo there only protects one, leaving you to beat on the ones not guarded. Simply leave your character beating a wall, come back in 30 mins, if campaign still going, check in/out, repeat. Otherwise wait at NPC. Its not that hard to get through the 50's doing this. Me personally though, I wouldn't touch campaign pre-46 because of the XP penalty.
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#16 Jan 15 2010 at 3:51 PM Rating: Good
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Have any of you had a problem with getting exp from volcanic gasses? I started soloing them now that im a 51 smn and for the first 3 destructs it worked out great, but after that i stopped receiving exp. I was close enough to the mob to receive exp but didnt receive any indication.
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