Ultimate SMN 75 equipment guide (discussion)!Follow

Here is a guide to the TOP equipment available to Summoner's at 75 based on SMN abilities, perpetuations, and MP. Feel free to add feedback as I will update on an ongoing basis. This is not a specialized and doesn't include HP gear for tarus or HMP gear (which you should have a seperate set for anyways), healer's gear etc etc.

Weapons:
Astral Signa (Prestige item)
Bahamut Staff (DROOL)*
HQ Staves (practical)
Claustrum (Debateable)

Throwing:
Hedgehog Bomb

Head:
Summoner's Horn (+1)
Evoker's Horn (+1)
Penance Hat
Faerie Hairpin
Zenith Crown+1

Body:
Ying Yang Robe
Summoner's Doublet (+1)
Penance Robe

Hands:
Summoner's Bracers (+1)
Nashira Gages
Carbuncle's Mitts (Carbie! <3)

Legs:
Evoker's Spat+1
Summoner Spat's (+1)

Feet:
Evoker's Pigaches+1
Summoners Pigaches (+1)
Rostrum Pumps
Herald Gaiters (solo kiting)
Nashira Crakows

Neck:
Uggalepih Pendant
Fenrir Torque
Republic Gold Medal (Bastok only)
Summoning Torque
Sacrifice Torque (For BP)
Grandoise Chain

Earring:
Loquacious Earring
Astral Earring
Galka RSE Earring
Magnetic Earring
Antivenom Earring
Summoner Earring

Ring:
Tamas Ring
Evoker's Ring
Vivianna Ring
Serket Ring

Waist:
Heirarch Belt
RSE specific for Galka and Elvaan

Back:
Blue Cape+1
Errant/Mahatma Cape
Astute Cape
Summoner Cape
Intensifying Cape

Other gear for HMP:
Pluto Staff, Heirarch belt, Errant/Mahatma Houppleande, Boroko Earring, Relaxing Earring, Baron's Slops, Pachamac's Collar

Other gear:
Pigeon Earrings for Taru, Full Zenith gear for max MP

Yigit set would also be maximum set of HMP - almost there! Good luck!

Not saying it's possible to get all this stuff, but at endgame, this would be pretty sweet eq to have.





Edited, Oct 6th 2006 at 10:39am PDT by Nakedman

I have most of that, except the astral signa and a few zenith, and have to say id never want it(astral signa), even for the prestige, i think its just plain crap. As for the other stuff, if your going for Ultimate, have to throw in the Claustrum (fully upgraded relic staff)
72 damage, added effect dispel, low delay, accuracy +20, Allows the use of "Gates or Tatarus", the WS gives defense down to target and while that is in effect, the smn gets the effect of refresh (+3mp per tic). Not to mention this staff allows for Double light or dark skillchains, so now when your killing old genbu, you can Bloodpact, then finish off a three person Light skillchain for huge damage. Or do a 500 damage spirit taker while soloing lol.

On the other note, when xping in smn parties, zenith set is nice to have for first few chains, then switch to relic gear and yinyang for chain 13+.

I also HIGHLY recommend the new GRIM staff, its no claustrum, but its great when soloing, ive done a 836 damage spirit taker on a easy prey (300tp), pretty much get to solo with whatever avatar you want lol.

Personally, for general purpose i use:

HQ staves
hedghog bomb
Smn doublet and Yinyang
Reblublic Medal
Serket and Evokers (tamas is nice but dont need int and mnd as smn, and serket gives more mp, though less hp >.<)
Smn Boots
Smn Glove and Carby gloves
Smn Spats or Zenith (Smn spats are ok, and the -BP is nice, but 50 mp and a ton of def is hard to pass up)
Earring-i go for astral and RSE earring from automoton assault ENM
Back- preferable errant, but bluecape is nice too
head: smn horn, but since thats rare as hell, penance had or zenith is nice.
Waist: hierach.

Pretty much mostly what the OP said, gl and happy hunting.

The MP needed for avatars at level 75 is 13/tick far as i can tell
Summoners Doublet : Avatar Perp cost -3 (On corrisponding Day)
Evokers Ring : Avatar Perp cost -1
E.Pigaches +1 : Avatar Perp cost -1
Nashira Gages : Avatar Perp cost -1
HQ Staff : Avatar Perp cost -3
Conjurers Ring : Avatar Perp cost -1 (With yellow HP)
Bard Subjob : Avatar Perp cost -1 (With BalladI)
Auto Refresh : Avatar Perp cost -1
Summoners Horn : Avatar Perp Cost -3 (On corrisponding wheather)
Totals : Avatar Perp cost -15 (With given variables)

This setup will, if your smart, allow for a 1mp/tick avatar (wich is easily countered by Refresh or BalladII)i dont plan on using the conjurers ring or the bard sub job so that leaves me with a -10 most of the time (i wont rely on the summoners horn too often) ad that with either refresh or BalladI + BalladII from a rdm or bard (or Refresh + BalladI from a Rdm/Brd :P) and you have a free avatar and with enouth merits you can easily pop the correct avatar on the correct day and pwn everyting that gets in your way.

are nashira's gages even available yet?

what the hell are Loquacious Earrings?!? O.o

What about resting gear?

Evoker's Doublet +1 = +5Hmp.
Forget the name, but in earring in sea is +2 Hmp

do you have any evidence that evoker+1 give more accuracy then the normal pair? If not,then they are hardly worth the beastcoins.

IMO the -best- equipment you can have at LV.75 would be:

Weapons: All HQ staffs to marco in for each avatar (-3MP drain)
Ammo: Hedgehog Bomb (+MP, -1enmity)
Head: Summoners Horn (-3BP delay,+MP)
Body: Yinyang Robe (-1MP drain,-5BP timer,+MP, and that +5enmity avatar stuff w/e that does)
Back: Errant Cape (30+MP, -5enmity)
Waist: Hierarch Belt (+MP,2+hMP)
Legs: Envoker's spats +1 (+ACC[which helps BPs] also +MP)
Hands: Summoner Braclets (+ATT,+MP,-2BP timer)
Feet: Summoner's Pigaches (+ATT,+MP -2 BP timer)
Rings: Tamas Ring + Envoker's ring (-3enmity,+55MP,+MND, -1MP drain)
Earrings: Astral Earring + (that new earring with 30+MP)
Neck: Fenrir's Torque (-3enmity[day] +MP[night])

Honestly this is probably the best set up any summoner can have "end game" because you get a nice range of +MP(~300-330+), very nice BP timer(-12) which means it takes 48 seconds per BP,huge amount of -enmity which is gear for that divine seal + curaga2 or spamming cure3 (-9-12Enmity), a nice set of avatar acc which helps Predator Claws a ton(2+acc), and you get a nice +ATT(1+ATT) which also helps melees. Now I know some people would argue that there are better things to marco in, yes that may be true but IMHO this would be the -best- general set up any summoner can have at 75.

Equipment for the 'ideal' summoner...

Weapon: HQ Staves(practical) ... Astral Signa(ideal for certain things)
Throwing: Hedgehog Bomb
Head: Summoner's Horn, Penance Hat, Zenith Crown+1, Faerie Hairpin(in that order)
Neck: Fenrir's Torque, Republican Gold Medal, Uggalepih Pendant(in that order)
Earring: Astral Earring + Loquatious Earring. (For Galka SMN, their RSE may be a better choice.)
Body: Yinyang Robe, Summoner's Doublet (I'm not going to list Penance Robe because I think it's a waste and a SMN would use YY or doublet more. =P)
Hands: Summoner's Bracers, Narashira Gages, Carbuncle Mitts, Penance Gloves, Evoker's Bracers+1... (Galka RSE may be better for some situations)
Rings: Evoker's Ring + Serket/Vivian Ring (or Tamas Ring in that place if you want to conserve HP. I typically switch my Serket in and out with Tamas for certain situations)
Back: Errant(Mahatma) Cape, Astute Cape, BlueCape+1... (Gigant Mantle for Tarus)
Waist: Hierarch Belt (RSE for Galka+Elvaan may be better for them)
Legs: Summoner's Spats, Evoker's Spats+1
Feet: Summoner's Pigaches, Evoker's Pigaches+1 (Galka RSE may be better for some situations)

With each race, the needs of the summoner changes. The equip I wear is designed for a mithra summoner... trying not to remove anything I'm weak in... such as STR, VIT etc... and attempting to get maximum MP for the HP I have. I try not to convert HP too much.

For example: A taru smn may want to chose HP gear in their earring and/or back slots for certain things, while for most cases, that would be out of the question for me, even if I had the funding to do it expensively.

Edited, Tue Nov 1 16:52:19 2005 by RyukonoTsuki

I know this is an old thread but for anybody just reading it for the first time I have some more items to consider.

Antivenom Earring MP+15 hMP+1

Intensifying Cape HP+30 MP+30

Herald's Gaiters MP+12 EVA+8 Movement speed +12% that stacks with Mazurka

I use these three items and am happy with them.

Edited, Aug 13th 2006 at 5:58pm EDT by StinkyMage

Also adding to topic necromancy, Astral Signa is nothing. Not even a pimp item anymore, Bahamut Staff owns Astral Signa. And HQ Staffs are even better then the Signa anyway. I believe Bahamut's Staff is the dream staff of all smns.

Personally I use

Head
Penance Hat

Body:
Summoner's Doublet
Penance Robe

Hands:
Summoner's Bracers
Carbuncle's Mitts (Carbie! <3)

Legs:
Summoner Spat's

Feet:
Evoker's Pigaches(dont have anything better)

Neck:
Uggalepih Pendant


Earring:
Pht ear+1 (from blm)
Astral Earring

Ring:
Ether ring
Evoker's Ring

Waist:
Heirarch Belt

Back:
Blue Cape+1

Of all items, I say Penance Robe is most valuable. -2 prep and -4 bp really help 100% of the time, smn Doublet is great if its the right day

Replace the HQ staves for Bahamut's Staff... it perp cost -3 so its like all the staves in one.

I think you'll find that, uh.. NO IT DOESN'T.

You can get merits in Avatar Magical Attack, or you could use Dream Shroud and then run around with him out for a full minute so you can pop Nether Blast with a MAB+ Diabolos, which would be a colossal waste of MP, but wearing a Moldavite, Uggaleppih Pendant, etc. will not strengthen Nether Blast.

Edited, Aug 16th 2006 at 7:56am EDT by Negativepositiv

Another peice of mildly overlooked gear for the neck is the Grandiose Chain.

Lv 60
All Jobs

HP+10
MP+10
hHP+2
hMP+2

Yes, it has less MP than Uggy pendant, and even the Star Necklace, but it offers us three of our most favorite stats. HP, MP, and hMP.

Suprozingly enough, it comes from the Ady. Subtertain Assault that we can basicly solo, provided we have two others to get us in.

It's a great 'universal' peice, and great 'resting macro' peice. WOuld get replaced in a 'Max MP build', however.



Edited, Aug 16th 2006 at 11:03am EDT by alauna

what does a smn need light+1 for o.O?

anyway, i say get all HQ staffs... when you get AF2 body, you find yourself using w/e avatar day of the week it is ^^

BAHAMUT's... only if SMN is your ONLY mage job ever "." no need if you ever plan to lv blm, rdm, hell, i'v even seen blu swap these out when doing magical attacks.

A soloing summoner would like an Apollo's staff because:

1. It has +5 Base Damage.
2. Extra Effect Light Damage is doubled.
3. Extra Effect Light Damage Occurs more often (From what I could tell).
4. And also a lower swing delay.

When a summoner is out fighting with Carbuncle the extra damage could help out. If you dont care for Summoner meleeing, well... then you dont need it.

Edit: 5. Oh, and for those who like to use light spirit, an additional -1 perpetuation.

Edited, Aug 16th 2006 at 4:39pm EDT by Brakius

You've got to get it to drop first and...after 15 runs, we've had one drop and ten billion Dragon Staffs.

And Claustrm is just lolz, but if you've got 800 million to blow and a LS who will die fighting Hydras and Weapons for you, go for it. It's still solo only, useless in EXP and wayyy useless on HNMS. Plus a lovely CHA modifter.

Updated some of the info as requested. SMN POWA forever! (even though SE shafts us)

Not only to revive a thread, but for casual soloing I've found Carbuncle's Pole to be absolutely clutch... it hits hard (for a SMN), and the "additional effect: Light damage" procs often (atleast 50%), is HEAVY light damage (on average, it gives around 60, and can go as high as 95~110, in addition to your normal attack that has a TP bonus on it).

Obviously, that's all it is- is a sweet melee stick for SMN. Nothing more, nothing less. Well, I guess it's a nice trophy too...

Edit: "casual" soloing. Obviously you won't be using it vs. snolls on the top of Uleg. Range.

Edited, Apr 6th 2007 4:56pm by GimmeAnFSharp

I didn't even know there was a thread like this. I'm actually happy he necro~bumped it, negativepositive. While you might disagree with necro~ing, I'm happy it turned out this way. thank you whoever did this.

Edit: Although I do see where you are going about the Carbuncle's Pole.

Edited, Apr 6th 2007 6:47pm by SummonerFenrir

Eh? The only thing Claustrum does is prove you have hundreds of millions of gil to burn. It is a MELEE weapon, offering no stats that directly benefit summoner (or BLM) in anything but a solo farming situation. Oh, gee, the weapon skill gives refresh? In a party, your refresh is covered by a BRD, COR or RDM, so get back on the back line and stop pretending you can hit something. :P

If anything, Claustrum is counterproductive for summoners, as they would save more MP by using +1 Elem staves than they could regain through a once-every-several-fights weapon skill that gives refresh, and saving that TP means not switching to Pluto's Staff to rest between fights, so there's an even greater stab against efficiency. Oh, and did I mention the modifier for Gate of Tartar Sauce is CHR?

Edited, Apr 7th 2007 2:43am by Negativepositiv

np, shut the hell up, you are getting worse than CM. i'm not getting into the damn "lol smn melee" argument, i was stating my opinion, which is, that a staff that can provide a big amount of refresh is SITUATIONALLY BETTER than hq elemental staves. personally claustrum would have been better than even bahamut's staff, were it not for the +5 smn skill on it.

your also forgetting that hefty +20 acc and "occasionally does 2.5x damage" hidden effect, as well as the notion that it's DPS beats out such weapons as ridill, algol, Juggernaut etc...

Uhhh.... sure it could.... IF A WAR COULD EQUIP IT. +20 acc will help a LITTLE. Try hitting an HNM with it. It still has crappy delay, and summoner and BLM still have crappy DEX and STR. The weapon alone will not change this. Just because a weapon's damage rating is higher, doesn't mean that IN THE HANDS OF A SUMMONER you will be outdamaging a frikkin WAR who is using a frikkin RIDILL.

Please insert another quarter and try again.

I don't know why you've picked up on Goliard armor as if it's going to make lolClaustrum suck any less or you have any hope of getting a lolClausturm with your fabled 100 Woodworking and lol80fishing anywhere within the next two years.
I lol at the idea you even have Goliard to start with.

Also note the best part of Claustrum is the Refresh effect only activates after you use the relic weapon skill and it is derectly related to the TP you have on hand. The only way your going to get more MP back then you would if you used Spirit Taker is to have 200TP or more. It's not even a good soloing weapon for godsakes unless your farming on dark day, in dark weather with Summoners Horn+1 and Summoner's Doublet+1. Of course CM, who doesn't really understand how the job works and always magicaly gets ahold of the rarest gear whenever it suits his debate has no issues. I can't -wait- for the fake Cluastrum parses in a few months, the boys from BG who have parsed it are gonna eat you -alive-

Edited, Apr 7th 2007 1:22pm by Sixtail

Did BG parse melee SMN? Probably not. They probably also didn't parse BLM tanking. Why? BECAUSE THEY CAN'T F'N DO IT.

Seriously, if the only support you have for your arguments is gear that one in 3000+ people could even get, stick a damn cork in it. Have I ever even seen a Claustrum? NO. Have you? NO. Have I ever even seen anyone wearing Goliard? NO. Have you? NO. YOU HAVEN'T, so S-H-U-T U-P.