Summoner Sub ClassesFollow

SMN/Any Mage is good, not as many SMN/RDM's out there because RDM use both White Magic and Black magic so you'll basicialy have almost everytype of Magic (besides like 3 or 4) to skill level it will be very diffucult to keep up, heck i'm only level 7 SMN right now and it's hard enough to keep my Summon Skill capped. I use SMN/BLM because of the MP boost but i rarely ever use Black Magic because is uses to much of my MP so i'll only use it when we need an extra boost of damage on the monster. So don't take what ever crap people throw to you about SMN/BLM that its not as good as SMN/WHM. WHM subs get into groups because of their WHM sub they are expected to be full time Healers. You'll end up getting yelled at when your leader is on the ground dead becuase you "Didn't heal me fast enough" and you get booted, i've watched it happen before in Qufim i stood up for that dude who had subbed WHM and i got booted as well. A Sub RDM is more work, a Sub WHM gets yelled at, and a sub BLM gets to become a full time SMN and only worry about Black Magic about once a minute when we get in trouble.

Accually Summoner as a sub is a complete waste. just don't do it. a bunch of crappy half lvl summons. Here is the deal with summoner subs. The only 2 decent subs are RDM and WHM. People might argue BLM however most of these people don't even understand what a summoner really does. A summoner (lvl 25+) doesn't send there avitars into battle with the rest of the party. All people want them to do in a party is cast their summon cast a party enhancement spell then release. Why don't they have their avitars battle u ask. The damage deal by summons isn't worth sitting arround an extra 3-5 mins to wait for there mp to refresh which would take a lot of extra time if there summon was out the entire time. Rather what most all high lvl summoners do is sit there and cast release party enchancement spells such as air armor, enthunderga and so on. They also are either the parties main healer or back up healer. BLM might be good up to like lvl 20 when u accually use your summons to fight. But when u get into high lvl parties not one is going to want a SUM/BLM over a SUM/RDM or SUM/WHM. Trust me people i am a lvl 72 summoner.
Smat on Garuda (73 SUM/31 RDM) (i also sub WHM some times)

Yes "If their summon was out the entite time." But a smart Summoner never keeps his Summon out at all times its just stupid wast of MP. if you are smart you can keep enough MP for battles until the WHM or BLM is out of MP then you recharge as well. You see i despise Healing people and Enhancements if that is what SMN is all about whats the point of having a damn Summon. And they do, do extra damage i've seen Carbuncle do about 7 more damage per hit than a WAR. And if you are fighting the right monsters and you have the right Spirit or Avatar you can do more damage than the BLM. I was in a party with a BLM and we went down into the Ruins with Cardians well i sent out Carb. first after them and he had them finished before the WARs could reach the Cardian. The next room the WAR's went out first then i sent out Carb and he was doing 25+ Damage on them when our BLM was doing 15. So if you are in Qufim and have the right spirit/Avatar to take on a certin type of monster use it. I mean when you get jumped by a couple Banshee's and Wights (Which everyone is afraid of inless in a good group) you summon Carbuncle and in a few hits at a good level they will go down, and not just he does good damage to them they won't do sh*t damage to Carb inless they are over 7 levels above you.

you get refresh, all right... BUT.. even with, Auto-Refresh, Refresh-Robe, Refresh Spell, bard Song.. you can't keep a summon for unlimited time...
at higher levels, at lvl 1 i could do that using only juice hehehe...

subbing smn its not really good... if you are n caster you can't afford to waste your mana on summon, and if you do.. you are going to get really disapointed.. i might do a Blm/smn combo to farm low level monsters and show off..