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#1 Aug 07 2013 at 3:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I need help deciding what computer to get out of these two.

Option A - 825 bucks
Case - NZXT Guardian 921 RB Gaming (blue)
GPU - Radeon 7770 HD 1 GB (the last two from newegg had this card and when I went to play games it would freeze go to black screen then back to game it was on a intel5 4670k machine)
CPU - AMD FX-8320 3.5 GHZ
RAM - 16 GB DDR3 (2x8) ( I know its sorta of a overkill but it comes with the computer )
OS - Windows 7
PSU - not really sure but I think a generic 400 watts.
HDD - 2 TB
DVD Drive
and not really sure on mobo comes with it.


Option B - 620 bucks
Case - AZZA Armour Case
GPU - Radeon 7750 1 GB
CPU - AMD FX-6300 3.5 GHZ
RAM - 8 GB DDR3 (2x4)
OS - Windows 8
PSU - not sure probably 400 watts also
HDD - 1 TB
DVD Drive
and not sure on mobo that comes with it.

Both pcs are Ibuypower.
My monitor I play games on is 1600x900 and want to play FF14 ARR , Archeage and Blade and Soul on max settings if can. Which PC will be able to play and which one is better to get. I can also list more specs if needed.


Edited, Aug 7th 2013 5:48pm by FF14Monk
#2 Aug 07 2013 at 4:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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The top one is the better of the two, though you could build a better computer than that for the money if you have assembly skills.
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#3 Aug 07 2013 at 4:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah I know its cheaper to build one but I rather just buy one. The first one you think due to my monitor only being 1600x900 it will be able to last for few years. Probably gonna switch out the video card and PSU in a year or so but the cpu and stuff seem pretty good but I'm no computer expert. The only thing I'm worried about is the Radeon 7770 card The first two pcs from newegg which was intel5 4670k etc pc and it would freeze black screen etc in games so not sure if the next pc with that card will do the same or its just bad luck twice. The card was Gigabyte Rev 2.0 7770 HD 1 GB card.

Edited, Aug 7th 2013 6:11pm by FF14Monk
#4 Aug 07 2013 at 5:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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I always go with Nvidia cards myself, but that card should theoretically work. Both those computers are decent, mid to low end computers, the PSU is too small on both of them, but other than that they should work
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#5 Aug 07 2013 at 5:10 PM Rating: Decent
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yeah the PSU on them I just guessed based on the cards that come with them I couldn't really find any info on that on the website and my other pc that was from same company had 7770 card in it and that's what they gave me.
#6 Aug 07 2013 at 6:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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The power supply in both of them is a piece of junk 400 watt solytech power supply. It actually produces 350 watts. Aside from that the rest of the components are decent. Would I buy either of them? No. Am I the right target to answer that question? Probably not.
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#7 Aug 07 2013 at 6:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok so if I replace the PSU it should be alright to run the targeted games.
#9 Aug 08 2013 at 1:57 PM Rating: Decent
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I tried finding out what mobos come with those set pcs but ppl at BB said they don't know so it's probably some pos one that will need upgrading.
#10 Aug 08 2013 at 8:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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the more expensive one has a Gigabyte motherboard, the other one has an Asrock
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#11 Aug 08 2013 at 8:36 PM Rating: Decent
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where did you find that at and are they AM3+ ? Also The reason why I want to upgrade pc is the one I'm on now is really old. Specs AMD Athlon Dual-Core Processor 2.7 GHZ Ram 4 GB GPU Radeon 5570 HD 1 GB I have to turn all the settings on FF14 ARR and it still doesn't run that great. I was looking at Build a PC on reddit and I saw this http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1ej3av/build_complete_my_first_build_600_budget/ it seems pretty decent to me but fiqured I would ask compare to the other pcs ? I was gonna check some small time computer stores if they would build a pc if I had too and how much they charge etc but haven't yet.


Edited, Aug 8th 2013 10:38pm by FF14Monk
#12 Aug 08 2013 at 8:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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I looked up the specific model details and someone had the specifications in the comments for the top one, the other came from a different search.
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#13 Aug 08 2013 at 8:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Did they say the whole mobo name or just that it was a Gigabyte? Wondering if it be good one for future upgrading the cpu etc or not.
#14 Aug 09 2013 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
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I called around and I might just get a computer build instead of buying one of those here is the specs of the two machines in question vs the others I already posted.

Intel Core I3-3220 3.3 GHz Dual Core Processor
Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1115 Motherboard
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2x4) DDR3-1600 Memory
Seagate Barradcuda 1TB 3.5'' 7200 Internal Hard Drive
Zotac Geforce GTX 660 2GB Video Card
Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case
BitFenix Spectre Pro LED 56.2 CFM 120mm Fan
Corsair CX 500W 80 Plus Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply
Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer

or

AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor
Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4) DDR3-1600 Memory
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5'' 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
EVGA GeForce GTX 650 TI Boost 2GB Video Card
NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair Builder 500W 80 Plus Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply
Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer

The only concern I have is the I3 isn't it already outdated?
#15 Aug 09 2013 at 1:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Both of those machines are better than the ibuypower ones, though for upgradeability you really don't want a mini atx case or motherboard. A couple of issues though, A 660 GTX 2GB wants at least 600 watts for a power supply, and Zotac is not a reccommended video card brand. For a case, get something large enough that you can work in it, like a cooler master cm690 III or a HAF case.

The 6 core AMD is a higher class processor than the i3 you have specified. When talking Intel processors, there are a couple things you have to look at. First is family, The Core series started with the Core 2 duo and quad processors, which were replaced with the first generation i3, i5 and i7 processors. There have been roughly 4 generations of I3-I7 processors. The main difference relates to features. I3 are generally considered the lower end, less feature rich, low core count processors, but they support onboard video. The I5's are the mid range, and can be found in quad core configurations, but generally will lack the onboard video component the I3's have. The I7's are the top end processors, split in to i7 standard and i7 extreme edition.

Once you have the family down, then there are socket types. There are (in order of low to high "horsepower") Socket 1156, Socket 1155, Socket 1366, and Socket 2011. The socket 2011 Core i7 processors are the fastest desktop processors on the planet at the moment (the Xeon variants are slightly faster) and have 8 ram slots available. The Socket 1156 processors have been discontinued. The socket 1155 processors are generally going to be most of your I3's and lower cost I5-I7 processors, and can only support 4 ram slots. Socket 1366 was replaced by scoket 2011, and could do 6 ram slots, but they aren't being made anymore.

AMD processsors of course use their own sockets. Generally for a low cost build, you can get more bang for your buck going with AMD. A high end Intel system will generally run circles around a high end AMD system though.

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#16 Aug 09 2013 at 3:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Is there any bad AMD Processors like I know Intel has non K and K on the end so if its 3770k it can be overclocked higher than a normal 3370.
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