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#1 Mar 10 2013 at 5:50 AM Rating: Good
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So, I got an Netgear N300 Wireless ADSL2+modem router from a friend.
As I brought it home I noticed that I have no RJ11 slots in my apartment.

In my fusebox there is RTK A-plug and dataplug marked 1,2,3 and 4. The matching slots 1 & 2 are in the bedroom 3 & 4 are in the livingroom.
I have connected the RTK A to the slot number 3 with an ethernet cable (RJ45) in the fusebox, and then from the 3 in the livingroom to my laptop, and the internet works fine like that.

But the things is, I need a router because my girlfriend also uses her laptop and sometimes we need the internet simultaneously.

Now, my computer finds the router just fine, but when I try to install it, it gives the following error: No DSL Cable Is Plugged into the Router ADSL Port.
Of course not, there's no wire there, because I don't have a slot for a DSL cable anywhere in this apartment!

So, is there any way I can get this router to work here, or do I need to get a different kind of router?
#2 Mar 10 2013 at 7:38 AM Rating: Good
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What brand ADSL router modem do you have? Do you have access to it? Or do you just have Ethernet ports wired to your apartment and the building maintenance crew has a modem somewhere in their control?

I'm thinking right now that you just need a simple switch or a basic router setup to be a switch to allow two devices to share the one Ethernet port labelled "3" in your livingroom. I'm assuming that if you plug into 3, someone else can plug into 4, or even 1 or 2, and be connected?

Edit:
Looking through the manual I cannot tell right away if it can be used as a router only.
http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/DGN2200M/DGN2200M_UM_04Nov11.pdf

Edited, Mar 10th 2013 9:45am by TirithRR

Edited, Mar 10th 2013 4:58pm by TirithRR
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#3 Mar 10 2013 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
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TirithRR wrote:
What brand ADSL router do you have?

I don't undertstand the question. This Netgear N300 is the only device I have for this.

TirithRR wrote:
Or do you just have Ethernet ports wired to your apartment and the building maintenance crew has a modem somewhere in their control? t

Nah, they don't have a modem in their control. As I said, the inernet works just fine if I plug it straight from the wall to my PC, but while trying to install the router it says: No DSL Cable Is Plugged into the Router ADSL Port.

TirithRR wrote:
I'm assuming that if you plug into 3, someone else can plug into 4, or even 1 or 2, and be connected?
That would work, but it would also come with wires, and I hate wires. :p

Thanks for the reply!
#4 Mar 10 2013 at 9:36 AM Rating: Good
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Who is providing your Internet? How can you have DSL service without a phone jack....?

Sounds like you just need a basic switch, not a modem, and it also sounds like some of the jacks in your apartment may not even be hot.
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#5 Mar 10 2013 at 11:18 AM Rating: Good
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The router you mentioned, is a ADSL Modem/Router combo. It's looking to setup a connection with the DSL modem part, and the router is probably connected internally to the DSL Modem. Quickly skimming the manual I linked earlier I couldn't see anything about setting it up as a router only.

It really sounds to me like you are connected to some sort of building wide network that is accessing a modem through it. There has to be a modem somewhere in the building. If it's not in your possession, then it's somewhere not controlled by you.

It's hard to say exactly what you need without knowing the exact setup, but it seems like you are after a wireless bridge or access point that you can plug into "3" in your living room and setup a small wireless network in your home that will allow your laptops and game systems to connect through "3".
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That router does indeed have a DSL modem built into it, but it's going to be completely useless to you without a DSL internet service provider and a phone jack. Almost all appartments within the borders of the united states will have a phone jack somewhere on their premisis. It's usually going to be either in the kitchen in a silver rectangular plate in a wall, or along an exterior wall baseboard, usually a little white or tan surface mount box with a jack on the side, sometimes an actual wall plate in newer construction.. Possibly near wherever your coaxial cable comes in through the wall. If you live in a town with a population greater than 3 people I almost garuntee its there somewhere.

That aside, it sounds like you have a local built in network in your appartment already anyways, RTK-A is probably short for Residential Transmission, block A, and since plugging a laptop into it via a jumper provides internet, its probably a live network feed from the appartment main office. What you need in that case is going to be a 5 port ethernet switch and 5 network wires. One from RTK-A to the switch, and then 1 from the switch to each of the 1-4 network ports. If this is a residential network, adding anohter router downstream is going to complicate things and probably won't work unless you go into the router firmware and essentially turn off all the routing bits. You might also check with your appartment management office and see if they provide residential internet, and if so, maybe they have someone locally that can help you set it up. Or take a picture of it and post it here and we might be able to figure it out.


edit: you probably need one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=33-122-128&ParentOnly=1

Edited, Mar 10th 2013 11:57am by Kaolian
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#7 Mar 11 2013 at 3:17 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the replies guys. Seems like I have to get a device that works only as a router.
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nope, no router. switch only in that particular case.
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#9 Mar 12 2013 at 2:26 AM Rating: Good
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But wouldn't that require wires into all laptops we want to use? Wireless is what I'm aiming for.
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Oh. in that case you're going to want a wireless access point. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0FU0FG9883 that particular one has 4 wired ports built in which won't be enough to light up all the physical ports so you may want the physical switch in addition.

The main thing to take away from that is if there is already a router somewhere in the appartment complex upstream of you, which from your descriptionh so far is the case, you don't want a second router behind it unless you know how to configure that second router to basically only act as an access point and not as a security device, otherwise you are going to not get any of your network traffic because the two routers will basically fight over port security protocals.
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#11 Mar 16 2013 at 1:51 AM Rating: Good
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Sorry for the slow reply.

All I know from my connection is that we live in a student apartment, this is a new building, no phone-jacks (I've looked everywhere), we live in Finland, I had to register for this broadband connection to get it working and it's free.

I basically want two laptops and my PS3 to work wirelessly, so 3 devices. So that product you linked should be enough without a physical switch? And couldn't they all use the same port?

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When you registered, did you have to give them the MAC Address of the device you wanted to connect with?

There was a similar setup in my dormitory in college. The entire building was wired with Ethernet. We had to give them the MAC Address of the device we wanted to connect, and there was only one allowed per registration. If we wanted to connect with multiple devices we had to setup a router and spoof the MAC Address of the device we registered and setup a small local network within their network.

I guess the easiest way to tell if you don't know right off hand... can you connect any computer and laptop to this port and it will work, or is it only the one you own that works?
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smunks wrote:
Sorry for the slow reply.

All I know from my connection is that we live in a student apartment, this is a new building, no phone-jacks (I've looked everywhere), we live in Finland, I had to register for this broadband connection to get it working and it's free.

I basically want two laptops and my PS3 to work wirelessly, so 3 devices. So that product you linked should be enough without a physical switch? And couldn't they all use the same port?


The one he linked has a built in switch, so yep, it ought to be all you need. (Unless it's done per MAC address, as noted above.)
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#14 Mar 17 2013 at 6:06 AM Rating: Good
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TirithRR wrote:
When you registered, did you have to give them the MAC Address of the device you wanted to connect with?
Nope, just my adress.

TirithRR wrote:
I guess the easiest way to tell if you don't know right off hand... can you connect any computer and laptop to this port and it will work, or is it only the one you own that works?

Yes, I can connect any device into this and it will work.
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