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Will I be able to run FFXIV ARRFollow

#1 Dec 24 2012 at 7:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Hi,

I've never played a pay-to-play MMO and I've been contemplating really hard if I should preorder the game or not, but very hesitant because I don't like to buy a game and it ends up not working. I can play Skyrim, Lineage 2, Aion... but I heard FF games have super graphics. The graphics on the FFXIII games were awesome.

BUT, anyways will my desktop PC be able to run ARR with these things, and in high or low resolution?

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Windows 7 Home
Intel i7-3770 processor
XFX Radeon HD 6870 1GB - 1 unit only, no overclocking
8GB memory

ASUS HDMI Monitor 1920x1080


If not, I am better off getting the PS3 version...?

Thanks for your help! Smiley: lol

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#2 Dec 24 2012 at 8:53 PM Rating: Good
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Should be fine. They reduced the graphics requirement for version 2.0 so you don't need a ludicrously overpowered system any more.
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#3 Dec 25 2012 at 12:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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You'll be fine. Those will work with at least moderate to high settings.

That being said, your graphics card is definitly the bottleneck in that system. You may want to consider swapping it out for something faster as funds permit. It's old enough I would go for a single faster card rather than running two in crossfire to get more horsepower. Ram is also dirt cheap at the moment, so you could get some more to bump your system up to 16 for under $50, but the biggest performance increase after the video card would be a solid state drive, or SSD assuming you don't have one already. But definitly concentrate on the video card first.
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#4 Dec 25 2012 at 1:10 AM Rating: Good
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catwho wrote:
Should be fine. They reduced the graphics requirement for version 2.0 so you don't need a ludicrously overpowered system any more.
Have they released the new system requirements yet? I have to decide whether getting it for PC will work(even if I end up having to upgrade my graphics card) or whether I'm better off buying a new router so I can connect the second PS3 in the house via a cable.
#5 Dec 25 2012 at 9:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Cool thanks for your input guys, I think I will give it a try and preorder it then!!

I will do some more research about the graphics card, unfortunately my computer is an prebuilt HP computer, and I am not sure if I can get a better one... might be too long. :(
#6 Dec 25 2012 at 10:29 PM Rating: Good
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HP uses a standard Intel (or AMD) motherboard for all their systems, usually made by a third party. As long as it says it has a PCIe x16 2.0 or 3.0 slot in the system specs, you can put almost any modern video card in it.

(Provided it's not a Small Form Factor business machine, in which case you'll need to get a half height ready video card, which limits your options quite a bit.)
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#7 Dec 26 2012 at 1:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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card length of the longer video cards can be an issue. power shouldn't be a problem for you though. A stock 6870 is about 10 inches long. A stock 7870 for comparison runs about 11.5 inches. The stock 7990 is a full 12. Most of the newer cards have the PCI express power leads on the side, not the back .There is a small chance you might not have enough pci express specific power leads to accomodate the highest end cards. In that case you would probably be looking at a power supply upgrade at the same time, which will fit that stock case.
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#8 Dec 26 2012 at 8:18 AM Rating: Good
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I managed to squeeze a 9800 GT into the stock HP case. Although I don't know if my new 7770 would fit in it; that thing is HUGE LIEK XBOX.
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I can't understand anyone who skips the cutscenes of a Final Fantasy game. That's like going to Texas and not getting barbecue.

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#9 Dec 26 2012 at 11:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm gutting my HP and putting it in a Corsair Carbide 500r. Hopefully it will switch bodies without a hitch.

I already placed a Corsair HX650 PSU inside, so I was indeed actually considering the Radeon 7870 (mind reading? :o )... but I will do some more research and see if the HP guts with transfer without a hitch first.

Probably should've built a computer in the first place instead of buying the HP since I'm like replacing everything ... bad choices xD
#10 Dec 27 2012 at 5:22 PM Rating: Good
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If HP is anything like Dell, your motherboard will be proprietary, and not fit into the new case.
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#11 Dec 27 2012 at 7:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Dang that really sucks :(

Well I',m hoping for the best because I've seen some stuff online where people did successful move the guts, but couldn't find anything particularly on my specific model.
#12 Dec 27 2012 at 8:06 PM Rating: Good
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Unless they changed in the last few years, HP is exactly UNLIKE Dell in that they used standard parts as opposed to proprietary. My motherboard in my HP system was a Nettle2 that was a standard Micro ATX form factor.

I'd check on the HP website for the model of your motherboard to check the form factor before buying a case, to ensure compatibility.
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I can't understand anyone who skips the cutscenes of a Final Fantasy game. That's like going to Texas and not getting barbecue.

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#13 Dec 27 2012 at 8:13 PM Rating: Decent
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The Corsair Carbide 500r supposedly can take micro-ATX and my mobo is the HP Formosa is a micro-atx, not sure if it is proprietary in other ways.
*cross fingers*
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The ***** holes on the new case may not be in the same place as the old case, but if it's a standardized micro ATX that means that it has to have the ***** holes in specific places to fit all cases of the same form factor. (Not all ***** holes will be used in all cases.) Don't forget the little offsets, either.

This is why my office only uses HP products, by the way. In a pinch we can used any standard parts without a problem. ****, a motherboard went out on one HP server and we swapped it with the mobo on a similar (but not quite the same) HP server and it ran without a problem til we could get the HP tech out there with the right parts (which took three days because they kept sending the wrong board...) **** lucky too, the old board had some weird SCSI connections, and while the new board also had SATA, it had legacy SCSI. We kept the medical office up and running while the on-site techs were struggling to find their own parts - because HP parts are standardized, and thus interchangeable.

Moral of the story: Dell sux.

Good luck!
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I can't understand anyone who skips the cutscenes of a Final Fantasy game. That's like going to Texas and not getting barbecue.

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#15 Dec 28 2012 at 11:36 PM Rating: Decent
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THanks for your help, it'll be here tomorrow, so I'll know by then if it'll work out *fingers cross*

So I got this case: http://www.corsair.com/en/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/carbide-series-500r-mid-tower-case.html

Should I mount as many fans I and the case can support, or just fill the ones at the edges like the two 140mm at the top rear, and the 140 at the very bottom front? Or should I also put fans on the the HDD cages? Thanks, I need input, I can't decide xD
#16 Dec 29 2012 at 4:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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More fans never hurts. Your current configuration on stock clock levels doesn't really need much more than the default ones the case will come with. Bigger fans are better, since they move more air quietly. that 200mm fan side panel upgrade is worthwhile because it can nearly cool the entire case in its own right and will be around 17 decibels. Hard drive fan cage depends on the type of drive. A solid state drive doesn't need as much cooling. Rotational drives need at least some airflow over them, though the newest ones don't tend to require as much due to smaller platter sizes and better bearings. You should have at a minimum of one front intake 120mm or larger, and one rear / top exhaust. Ignore the CPU fan and Power supply fan entirely in terms of air movement and flow. You could write a whole book on fan cooling computer cases and the different dynamics, but for your purposes with that case you are dealing with a vented case, so you will want to aim for a slight positive pressure if you can't have exact flow balance (for example 2 intakes, but only one exhaust, etc) Air temperature and air circulation in the room is also critical. All the fans in the world won't help your computer if it is in a small enclosed space with no air conditioning during a 100% summer.
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#17 Dec 29 2012 at 8:53 AM Rating: Good
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For the Z800 workstation series from HP, they hired a BMW automobile airflow expert to design their air intake and cooling system. Those things are stupidly efficient and totally silent.
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I can't understand anyone who skips the cutscenes of a Final Fantasy game. That's like going to Texas and not getting barbecue.

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#18 Dec 30 2012 at 3:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Guess I'm getting a little bit off my original topic here, but the body transfer was a success. Just have to buy a little longer SATA III cable, cuz the one that came with the HP is now too short, so I currently have a non-functioning optical drive. And probably have to get a better network adapter now since the wireless internet chip thing somehow doesn't function anymore. And may get a couple of 140mm fans for the top exhaust slots. Couldn't figure out where the HDD LED, +p LEd, and -p LED case cables went, but I'm guessing he HP Formosa mobo doesn't support them or I can't figure out where they are suppose to go.

Now to fiddle around with the MSI Afterburner to control the GPU fan stuff, and monitor the temps with SpeedFan. Ohh, and I have just pre-ordered ARR so hopefully I'll see you all in-game sometime! :)

Thanks a bunch for your advice guys!!


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Glad it works. You would be better off buying a wired network adapter, wireless can sometimes suck for gaming. The connectors for the HDD LEDs and all that should connect just like before, just on a different spot on the mobo most likely.
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#20 Dec 30 2012 at 9:04 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, there's a reason I still run on Ethernet when ever other device in the house is wireless.
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I can't understand anyone who skips the cutscenes of a Final Fantasy game. That's like going to Texas and not getting barbecue.

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#21 Dec 30 2012 at 9:29 PM Rating: Decent
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I wish I could do ethernet too I noticed much better performance when I lived in my apartment, but now I moved back and have no port nearby :(.

Probably gonna get one of those USB ones with wire and adjustable antenna
#22 Dec 30 2012 at 10:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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The USB ones generally suck. Get one of the inexpensive Intel Pci express ones. You'll get about 8 times the signal strength and throughput.

For example, this $25 one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106136
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#23 Dec 31 2012 at 7:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Either you really are a mind reader, or you've been tracking my search cuz I was actually looking at that exact product at NewEgg prior to my previous post, xD.

I was just a little iffy about it because I was reading the reviews and saw some people with Win7 64 had some issues, and that is the same type of OS I'm running, I'd hate to get something that doesn't work and have to pay to return it. But I will continue to read other reviews and hope they fix the issues by now. But I do really like how it is a PCIE_x1 and also has a looong antennae instead of those short ones.

I know for sure I need one with a long attenae, because I am currently using a regular stick USB adapter and my signal is 1-2 bars and drops off randomly, so the signal is pretty bad at the back of my comp.
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