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#1 Dec 11 2011 at 12:33 AM Rating: Decent
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So I have been looking forward to SW:TOR forever, and miss FFXI like crazy. Anyways. That has nothing to do with this post.

I don't know if I will even like TOR, so I don't want to drop 1k+ on a PC to play it. The only computer I have right now is a Macbook Air 11".
So basically, as I keep building PC's on Newegg, Ibuypower, etc I keep breaking the 1k mark without even thinking, so I started checking out Craigslist, and wanted to get folks opinion on these two options I have found so far.
1:
 
 
I am selling my 'baby' because I need money for my car. I just took it in for repairs and selling this is the last resort. All parts were purchased and put together in 2011. This PC is in perfect condition and it comes with a 20 inch dell widescreen monitor (1600 x900), keyboard, mouse, speakers, etc... 
 
System Details: 
 
Motherboard -- EVGAP55 Micro SLI 
CPU --Intel Core i5 760 2.8Ghz Frequency: 4.1 GHzFSB / QPI: 3514 MHzMultiplier: X 21.0 x Stepping: 5 VCore: 1.2 vVTT Voltage: 1.35 v PLL Voltage: 1.8 v 
RAM -- Mushkin2x 4GB @ 2133mhz Frequency: 1952 MHzTiming: 11-12-12-3 Voltage: 1.67 v 
Graphics Card -- EVGA 2x GTX 550 Ti FPB GPU Frequency: 951 MHzShader Frequency: 1903 MHzMemory Frequency: 2178 MHz SLI: Yes 
Power Supply -- NZXT 750W 80 Plus GOLD 
Solid State Drive -- Mushkin 80GB (2x 40GB RAID 0) 
Heatsink -- Cooler MasterV6 GT w/ green LED (personal mod) 
Case -- Cooler MasterElite 341 w/ professional powdercoat Black 
 
NOTE: I am selling the WHOLE PC --NOT SELLING PARTS


He will sell this for $600 and it includes 20" monitor, keyboard, speakers, etc.

Annnnddd...

2:
 
Core i7 920 (64bit) 
EVGA X58 Motherboard.(Capable of 3X SLI) 
6GB Corsair Dominator Memory 
300GB Western Digital Velociraptor 10K Hard Drive 
60GB Corsair F60GB2 SSD Drive (operating system) 
2X EVGA GTX 285 1GB (SLI Configuration) 
24" Samsung SyncMaster monitor (1920X1200 native resolution) 
Windows 7 Professional (also 64bit) 
New Microsoft 4000 ergo keyboard. 
Antec LanBoy case with 900W power supply. 
Lite-On DVD Burner


I asked him if I could pass on the monitor and keyboard etc for $500.


And I just came across this one, haven't talked to this guy yet:

3:
 
 
Asus Crosshair V motherboard(SATA III, USB3, and capable of SLI or CFX) 
AMD FX-4100 quad core 3.6Ghz 
8GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 1333Mhz RAM 
60GB Corsair Force III SATA 6gbps SSD 
Thermaltake 850 watt modular power supply 
Big heatsink on the CPU, keeps it cool. 
HDMI cable 
XFX Radeon HD 6870 
Thermaltake V9 case 


He's asking $700, but as I said, I haven't talked to him, this build on Newegg is around $845 new.


I do for sure want an SSD. I'm to hooked on it after the MBook Air. I do not have a monitor, but I want to buy a touch screen monitor. (On that note, would that even work for SW:TOR?) I have speakers, etc so I don't really care about those in #1.

In all honesty I would prefer a laptop, as I live on a boat and there isn't a ton of room for a desktop, and I would just like to output it to a large monitor or to my tv, but I have a feeling that would cost a lot more than I want to spend on something I "may" like (See: That **** *** Razer laptop)

Edited, Dec 10th 2011 10:42pm by FlixEffect
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#2 Dec 11 2011 at 12:26 PM Rating: Good
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Number 2 is the only one that lists a secondary HD unless I just missed it. 60 or 80 GB are gonna get filled up quickly unless you just use it for gaming.
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#3 Dec 11 2011 at 2:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah it's pretty much just going to be for TOR. And maybe LoL or small things like that. My air is going to stay my main computer for day to day things and I can put a HDD in whichever I got.

But what I didn't know, is apparently TOR won't even support SLI or Crossfire, so I'm thinking I may pass on both of these.
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#4 Dec 11 2011 at 3:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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#2 is the better machine overall. Secondary hard drives are still relitivly cheap dispite the shortage as long as you don't go after the really big ones. You could make an argument for the TI550's in the 1st machine being better than the 285 GTX's, but the I7 CPU seals it in my book It's the 2.66 GHz CPU, but thats easy enough to upgrade later.

Keep in mind when you buy a used PC, you buy all the problems, as well as the skill level of whoever put said PC together. Sometimes that can work out well, sometimes they are selling because they have an intermittant failure they can't figure out. If you get a good enogh frame, even with problems for a good enough price you can usually still put some money towards fixing it and come out ahead.

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#5 Dec 11 2011 at 3:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah I'm thinking I'm just going to go and either build one from the start or go Ibuypower. I read alot of stories of the components of that i7 builds SSD, and most of the reviews ahd it crash in a few months.
I'm hoping maybe I can borrow a friends PC or something to try the game first.

On a side note, do you have to have a certain MB or anything for a touch screen monitor to work? And will they always work in games or is it software dependent?
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#6 Dec 11 2011 at 5:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Touch screen monitors are basically USB devices. They will work with every motherboard on the planet, and will do "something" in most games. That being said, touchscreen interfaces, even with multitouch are really pretty useless for playing most MMO style games. You still need the keyboard, all the touchscreen gives you is possibly faster clickability, though I find that I can use a relaly good high resolution mouse faster than most people can use a touchscreen, because I only have to move my mouse a fraction of an inch to do the same task that requires 5 inches of hand movement on a touchscreen. They do have their uses, especially for CAD and artisitry, but they arent something you should focus on as a gaming perephrial at this time.

SSD's you have to be careful with. There are a couple of good manufacturers of them, and a couple of really bad manufacturers. OCZ for example makes dozens of very inexpensive SSD's. They are inexpensive for a reason. they have a horriffic failure rate. You should never, ever buy one from them. Intel makes good SSD's with a very low failure rate. Corsair makes good SSD's with a low failure rate. I personally own a Crucial 240GB 6GB / sec SSD, which I am quite happy with. it's been in for about 4 months now. The corsair and Crucial ones both use the same Sandforce controller. The intel ones use an Intel controller. OCZ tends to use a mix of sandforce and some other wierd ones, but they also cheap out on the memory they use. You want to look at the SSD you are getting, and match the throughput as well. If you don't have a 6GB / sec controller on your motherboard, it makes no sense really to get a 6GB / sec SSD, since you will pay a premium for that extra speed, and by the time you do upgrade the motherboard chances are you will upgrade the SSD as well since they will be going up in capacity fairly rapidly.

Starting with an Ibuypower or similar rig isn't a bad way to go, especially if you have never built your own computer and don't have anyone nearby to show you the ropes initially. You can also go the build your own route over an extended period of time too to make the financials hurt a bit less. Get a really good case one month, get a really good PSU the next, those components won't need upgrading often if you get the right ones. Then save for your motherboard and CPU, then the ram, then the video cards, then the drives, etc. Takes alot longer that way but you end up with a better system in the end ususally.
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