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#1 Dec 18 2010 at 10:34 PM Rating: Decent
Copied from the O-Boards Tech Support forums, since it's after 11 and I won't get a response now:

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I'll start off by saying I have an extremely low-end system at the moment, but it will be overhauled in a week or so.

Now, my issue, is that for the past month, I have been having an issue where I would suddenly not be able to cast spells or talk to vendors/quest-givers, but I could still chat. This happened on all characters, but most frequently on my highest leveled toons.

For a bit yesterday, and all of tonight, this is graduated from random disconnects to DCing straight after logging in to my Paladin. After trying 20 times, once I was able to turn in one quest before, again, being unable to cast, but still seeing chat.

I submitted an in-game ticket through my Rogue on another server (my Paladin and other mains are on Aerie Peak, my Rogue on Skywall), but on that character, instead of disconnecting directly after login, I was DCed every 2-4 minutes, making me miss the GM chat. This GM then moved my Paladin to the Razor Hill Graveyard (from outside of Org, where he was originally), which did not help at all.



TL;DR - Random Disconnects since 4.0 :(


Also, the things he asked me to find (OS, firewall, network adapter - driver date/version, router, modem, ISP, wired/wireless, location):

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Windows XP SP2
McAfee
Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection, driver date - 10/14/2004, version - 8.0.15.0
D-Link DIR-615
Motorola SB5100
Rogers Internet (Ontario, Canada)
Wireless
Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada



Tracing route to us.logon.battle.net [12.129.206.130]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 * * * Request timed out.

2 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms 67.231.221.165

3 12 ms 12 ms 11 ms 64.71.241.53

4 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms 69.63.251.233

5 28 ms 31 ms 30 ms 24.153.5.70

6 40 ms 212 ms 172 ms TenGigabitEthernet9-2.ar7.NYC1.gblx.net [64.208.169.149]

7 105 ms 105 ms 106 ms 192.205.37.93

8 106 ms 106 ms 105 ms cr2.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.123.30.190]

9 112 ms 110 ms 107 ms cr84.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.123.30.249]

10 104 ms 103 ms 109 ms gar5.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.25]

11 105 ms 106 ms 105 ms 12.122.255.74

12 109 ms 116 ms 109 ms mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.193.242]

13 12.129.211.34 reports: Destination net unreachable.



Trace complete.


In that thread, an agent told me to update my wireless adapter, which I did, and to try a wired connection instead of a router. Neither of those things helped my issue.

Thoughts?
#2 Dec 18 2010 at 10:35 PM Rating: Decent
Though, if you don't want to read all that

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1568009712?page=1#12
#3 Dec 19 2010 at 1:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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you are dropping a fairly large amount of packet data. I suspect your ISP or one of the routers in between you and your ISP is having technical problems at the moment. You may want to call them. Could aslo be a cabling issue, especially if it is raining or especially cold at the moment.

edit: also you might want to remove your IP address. I've left it for now since you have it in the other thread as well.

Edited, Dec 18th 2010 11:02pm by Kaolian
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#4 Dec 19 2010 at 9:14 AM Rating: Decent
In that thread there was mention of an issue with my ISP throttling WoW traffic. Plus, we have about 3-4 feet of snow here, too.
#5 Dec 19 2010 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
you are dropping a fairly large amount of packet data. I suspect your ISP or one of the routers in between you and your ISP is having technical problems at the moment. You may want to call them. Could aslo be a cabling issue, especially if it is raining or especially cold at the moment.

edit: also you might want to remove your IP address. I've left it for now since you have it in the other thread as well.

Edited, Dec 18th 2010 11:02pm by Kaolian

Is this a known issue Kao? Because my latency and speed suck when it's cold, rainy, or god forbid both outside. My ISP claims that it's not the problem.
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#6 Dec 19 2010 at 1:33 PM Rating: Decent
Kastigir wrote:
My ISP claims that it's not the problem.


I called my ISP (Rogers) after reading on the O-Boards about Rogers throttling traffic. According to the thread, Rogers will deny it to hell and back, saying that no one else has experienced the issue, or that they don't throttle people. This is exactly what was said to me on the phone.

I ended up trying a subscription VPN, which stopped my disconnects during the 30 minute trial.

Thread: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1568009046?page=1
#7 Dec 19 2010 at 6:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kastigir wrote:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
you are dropping a fairly large amount of packet data. I suspect your ISP or one of the routers in between you and your ISP is having technical problems at the moment. You may want to call them. Could aslo be a cabling issue, especially if it is raining or especially cold at the moment.

edit: also you might want to remove your IP address. I've left it for now since you have it in the other thread as well.

Edited, Dec 18th 2010 11:02pm by Kaolian

Is this a known issue Kao? Because my latency and speed suck when it's cold, rainy, or god forbid both outside. My ISP claims that it's not the problem.


Yeah, usually that indicates that somewhere between your computer and the cable company, there is a piece of line exposed to the elements, or a damaged bit of cabling. In most cases, if it is on the main lines, they get a large number of calls about it and fix it. If it has been going on for a while it may just be the run to your house. The issue is that water can infiltrate the lines, usually at the cable box itself and cause small fleeting shorts that disrupt your signal. Cold temperatures causing metal to contract and therefore lose contact can also be an issue. usually in that case a fitting is loose, or they didn't cut the coax line correctly and the inner conductor is just bairly too short and is not making good contact.

To troubleshoot, do the following:
1. check your cable modem end, if the coax cable fitting is at all loose, finger tighten, then use a crescent wrench to tighten it a further 1/8" of a turn.
2. Check your wall plate. unscrew the cable from the wall, check the exterior section for any signs of corrosion. Now unscrew the wall plate and check the same thing inside. Ensure that the fitting inside the wall is also tight. Reattach the wallplate and then reattach the cable line, ensuring it is good and tight.
3. Now check your cable box on your house. If it is outside, check and see what kind of cable box you have. if it is a newer plastic one, chances are it is pretty water tight. ifit is an older metal style one, you will want to replace it with the plastic type. Open the cable box up (may take a special torx screwdriver) and check for any signs of leaking water, leftover water trails, discolored spots, corrosion, etc. Ensure that all the connection fittings are tight.

Hopefully that fixes the issue. If it doesn't, chances are its on a feeder line to your house. What you need to do then is start calling the cable company repeatedly every time you see the issue, and keep mentioning to them that it only occurs on cold and or wet days, you suspect they have a worn out insulation on a cable or a loose fitting, and that they should please send a tier II or III technician out to diagnose the issue because you are tired of dealing with it. Get 3 of those calls on the record, and if they don't do anything, report them to the better buisiness buero. Usually by that point they are willing to fix it.
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#8 Dec 21 2010 at 10:51 AM Rating: Good
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Kastigir wrote:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
you are dropping a fairly large amount of packet data. I suspect your ISP or one of the routers in between you and your ISP is having technical problems at the moment. You may want to call them. Could aslo be a cabling issue, especially if it is raining or especially cold at the moment.

edit: also you might want to remove your IP address. I've left it for now since you have it in the other thread as well.

Edited, Dec 18th 2010 11:02pm by Kaolian

Is this a known issue Kao? Because my latency and speed suck when it's cold, rainy, or god forbid both outside. My ISP claims that it's not the problem.


Yeah, usually that indicates that somewhere between your computer and the cable company, there is a piece of line exposed to the elements, or a damaged bit of cabling. In most cases, if it is on the main lines, they get a large number of calls about it and fix it. If it has been going on for a while it may just be the run to your house. The issue is that water can infiltrate the lines, usually at the cable box itself and cause small fleeting shorts that disrupt your signal. Cold temperatures causing metal to contract and therefore lose contact can also be an issue. usually in that case a fitting is loose, or they didn't cut the coax line correctly and the inner conductor is just bairly too short and is not making good contact.

To troubleshoot, do the following:
1. check your cable modem end, if the coax cable fitting is at all loose, finger tighten, then use a crescent wrench to tighten it a further 1/8" of a turn.
2. Check your wall plate. unscrew the cable from the wall, check the exterior section for any signs of corrosion. Now unscrew the wall plate and check the same thing inside. Ensure that the fitting inside the wall is also tight. Reattach the wallplate and then reattach the cable line, ensuring it is good and tight.
3. Now check your cable box on your house. If it is outside, check and see what kind of cable box you have. if it is a newer plastic one, chances are it is pretty water tight. ifit is an older metal style one, you will want to replace it with the plastic type. Open the cable box up (may take a special torx screwdriver) and check for any signs of leaking water, leftover water trails, discolored spots, corrosion, etc. Ensure that all the connection fittings are tight.

Hopefully that fixes the issue. If it doesn't, chances are its on a feeder line to your house. What you need to do then is start calling the cable company repeatedly every time you see the issue, and keep mentioning to them that it only occurs on cold and or wet days, you suspect they have a worn out insulation on a cable or a loose fitting, and that they should please send a tier II or III technician out to diagnose the issue because you are tired of dealing with it. Get 3 of those calls on the record, and if they don't do anything, report them to the better buisiness buero. Usually by that point they are willing to fix it.

I have DSL...
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#9 Dec 21 2010 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
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Same basic information would apply, just different mechanisms. With DSL, if you're in a house at least, you can probably bypass the internal wiring for your house by going to your phone connection box outside and plugging your DSL modem straight into the phone line coming into that. If you try it doing that and don't see a problem, then it's likely something with your internal wiring. If you still see it, then it's likely outside your house.

A few years ago I had an issue with my DSL being very flakey - I had to badger the support a lot, since it was apparently up enough that their simple diagnostic passed most of the time. When it finally failed, however, they came and looked at it, and found that there was a grounding problem in their box outside. Fixed that, and it's been solid ever since.
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