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#1 Jul 07 2010 at 9:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I have a AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2Ghz and a Geforce GTX 470 on its way to play this mammoth. Been building computers for about a year now but I never really paid much attention to motherboard specs. Any suggestions on a Mobo that will run FFXIV on high-ish settings without breaking the bank? (less than 500ish).
#2 Jul 08 2010 at 7:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Since you are running an AMD, look for a socket AM3 chipset. I always try and buy Asus but other vendors are ok too. I'm a little surprised you went with a nVidia card with a AMD though. In general AMD makes their processors backwards compatible with older mother boards although if you want to improve performance make sure you buy a DDR3 motherboard like this:

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_340&item_id=031117

With 500 you should be able to buy the motherboard, RAM and powersupply. In fact, please pay particular attention to the powersupply especially with a Fermi chipset from nVidia.
#3 Jul 08 2010 at 7:17 AM Rating: Good
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128438 maybe?

$500 for a motherboard is ridiculous. Outside of making sure it has the ports/chipset you want or need, there aren't too many major differences between boards outside of quality or potential overclocking features. Don't get me wrong, you want a good board...it's more that you won't necessarily gain much, if anything, from paying for a premium/deluxe/etc model. If it has features you specifically need, sure, but I've seen way too many people spec out $250+ triple GPU capable motherboards n' all when they'll never use it for that.
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#4 Jul 08 2010 at 4:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Is running a nVidia with an AMD chip really that bad? Iv had a couple prebuilts that ran them together, seemingly fine, although then again I had a prebuilt come in with 8gb ram running 32bit Vista sooo.

What exactly am I looking at running a Geforce with the phenom?

Edit: Crossfire I assume?

Edited, Jul 8th 2010 6:30pm by Wloire
#5 Jul 08 2010 at 5:47 PM Rating: Good
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Is running a nVidia with an AMD chip really that bad?


Nothing, unless you want to run more than one video card, since the newer AMD chipsets don't support SLI.
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#6 Jul 08 2010 at 8:23 PM Rating: Decent
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I did some re-ordering and I think I've got my PC, I might have cheaped out on some spots (optical drive and hard drive) so let me know how I'm looking:

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-890XA-UD3 AM3 AMD 790X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard]


Processor: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W


Graphics: Radeon HD 5870 2GB GDDR5


Power: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V


Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333


Optical: Lite-On iHas124 24x DVD+R, 8x DVD+RW, 48x CD ROM


Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
(Hard Drive is temporary until the 1.5T's come down in price)

Case: COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II


Hows that?

( CPU cooling; I'm not planning on over-clocking, the stock cooler should be fine right?)


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#7 Jul 08 2010 at 9:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Wloire wrote:
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
(Hard Drive is temporary until the 1.5T's come down in price)

They'd better come down at least $60 or else waiting is pointless. Honestly, you can get a pretty good deal on a 1 TB drive for not much more. Just a suggestion.

Judging from Newegg's reviews, I'd get the video card from a better-known vendor. This one sounds like you might be RMAing it within a few weeks.

Your RAM is slower than what your motherboard can support. You want DDR3 1333, or at least 1066 if the 1333s are too pricey, which they shouldn't be. Something like this from Corsair, which is actually slightly cheaper than what you were looking at.

For cooling, you'll have 3 fans with the case and one with the CPU, and probably another mounted on the GPU. That should do reasonably well, but keep in mind that this is top end hardware and it's going to have one **** of a heat signature. When you get this rig built, install a heat monitoring utility to make sure you aren't going too hot on full load.
#8 Jul 09 2010 at 7:15 AM Rating: Good
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You can save some cash on motherboard by not opting for USB 3.0 if you are going to put in more than 1 video card in and xfireing it. The reason why is that USB 3.0 reduces bus speeds on xfire (or sli) video cards.

Just a heads up.

Oh and 650 watt might be small if you plan to xfire it too (depending on a lot of other things of course). Get at least a 750 watt.

Addendum hardware: You want DDR3 not DDR2. Runs lower on power and heat and faster.

Edited, Jul 9th 2010 9:16am by Aiph

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#9 Jul 09 2010 at 7:43 AM Rating: Good
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You can save some cash on motherboard by not opting for USB 3.0 if you are going to put in more than 1 video card in and xfireing it. The reason why is that USB 3.0 reduces bus speeds on xfire (or sli) video cards.


AMD boards don't have that problem (nor do X58 based boards). Really it's mostly an issue with the socket 1156 platform chipsets, due to limited PCI Express lanes.

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#10 Jul 09 2010 at 3:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Aiph wrote:
Addendum hardware: You want DDR3 not DDR2. Runs lower on power and heat and faster.


More than that... the motherboard OP has chosen is DDR3 only, buying DDR2 won't be good for it.
#11 Jul 09 2010 at 3:54 PM Rating: Good
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Optical: Lite-On iHas124 24x DVD+R, 8x DVD+RW, 48x CD ROM

Absolutely nothing wrong with Lite-On drives. Running one myself...zero issues.


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Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
(Hard Drive is temporary until the 1.5T's come down in price)

Personally I wouldn't use anything less than 500GB nowadays, but when I bought this system it only had a 400GB. Might want to look into a 750GB as well.

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Case: COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II

If you're not set on that case, I have this one, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119106 that unfortunately won't fit the application I'm using. Willing to let it go pretty cheap.

Edited, Jul 9th 2010 5:54pm by Kastigir
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#12 Jul 09 2010 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Every GPU iv seen has its share of terrible reviews. Hows sapphire?
#13 Jul 09 2010 at 5:37 PM Rating: Good
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Every GPU iv seen has its share of terrible reviews. Hows sapphire?

Probably not bad, but when the same money can get you an Asus why not?
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#14 Jul 11 2010 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Well thats looking better. Last up, if I'm using a 26" 720p Sharp Aquos as a monitor (kinda small I know ; ;) is the 2gb Video card really necessary? Lets say I were to upgrade to a 55" 1080p in years to come (theoretically, not going to happen for my pc) would it matter then?
#15 Jul 11 2010 at 7:55 PM Rating: Good
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The 2GB model of the 5870 is unnecessary unless you're going to use a nice multi-monitor setup. On top of that, the 1GB model performs slightly better than the 2GB model unless you go into very high definition (far beyond 1920x1200).

At resolutions like 1080p (screen size doesn't matter, it's the resolution that counts) you should be fine with the 1GB model. Beyond 2560x1600 is where 2GB supposedly comes into play.

Here's some reading on the 2GB vs 1GB subject if you're interested :)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3621/amds-radeon-hd-5870-eyefinity-6-edition-reviewed/6
#16 Jul 12 2010 at 10:36 AM Rating: Decent
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And thats that. Thank you to everyone for your help and have a wonderful day.
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