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#1 Jun 13 2010 at 8:20 AM Rating: Good
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I just got a really weird warning from G-Mail that says my account has been recently accessed from China, and to change my password if it wasn't me who accessed it from there... It wasn't an Email, it was a warning within G-Mail. Has anyone else got this? Kind of freaking me out.
#2 Jun 13 2010 at 8:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Nope, check your IP information in gmail that shows who's been on your account, if it has been accessed from China (it is a newish feature telling you who accesses your account) you should probably get to securing it with a new password or something. Just make sure to check IP activity.
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I haven't gotten anything of the sort.
#4 Jun 13 2010 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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Mistress Theonehio wrote:
Nope, check your IP information in gmail that shows who's been on your account, if it has been accessed from China (it is a newish feature telling you who accesses your account) you should probably get to securing it with a new password or something. Just make sure to check IP activity.


I just don't get what is going on. Currently doing a virus check with AVG, but I use firefox with noscript and never go to any questionable sites or anything, unless FFXIAH has another virus or FFXIclopedia. Nothing but cookies found so far in AVG. And now it's showing that all my G-Mail accounts have been accessed. It also says it's not from a browser but from "POP3"? What's that mean? Should I change my Square Enix Account password?
#5 Jun 13 2010 at 8:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Hmmm, could this be part of the "Breach" in information that Square Enix was talking about not long ago? This is quite frightening. Still nothing found through AVG and It's almost done scanning. Only 2 of my 4 G-Mail accounts have been accessed, and I'm not sure about my yahoo accounts. Not sure what to do at the moment, have changed my Gmail accounts passwords so far and doing the virus scan.
#6 Jun 13 2010 at 8:51 AM Rating: Good
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This would have nothing to do with the SE acct compromises issue, as the op states its a message from google.

The there was a news article, not to terribly long ago that someone in the chineese government or with their conscent was trying to breach gmail accts in order to gain info on human rights activists. My best guess is it had something to do with that.

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2010/01/12/google-threatens-to-leave-china-over-security-breach/

and http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34831106

for sources.
#7 Jun 13 2010 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
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This would have nothing to do with the SE acct compromises issue, as the op states its a message from google.

The there was a news article, not to terribly long ago that someone in the chineese government or with their conscent was trying to breach gmail accts in order to gain info on human rights activists. My best guess is it had something to do with that.

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2010/01/12/google-threatens-to-leave-china-over-security-breach/

and http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34831106

for sources.


I forgot to mention, those 2 accounts are the ones linked to my SE account and POL, so that's why I was wondering maybe they got something from that breach some how? I don't know. But yeah, yours sounds a lot more likely, I appreciate the links, I will read them over. Is there anything about this fiasco I should know about?
#8 Jun 13 2010 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
Can't be too safe. Change your Gmail password too. Change your locks, dye your hair, move in another house, change car, change name, get a new wife, sell your kids!

No seriously though, I would definitely change my FFXI and POL password, it would suck if your account got hacked somehow.
I got an email from Blizzard last month saying my WoW account got banned for cheating/botting? I haven't used it since July '09 wth. I checked wowarmory.com and there was some achievement activity on there for 2 of my characters. No idea what happened, but none of my gear pieces are missing. Plus my account is linked with Battlenet like Blizzard suggested we do, and now it's asking me to enter an Authenticator Code whenever I try to manage my account on worldofwarcraft.com . The Authenticator is a device or application that sends a one-time use password to your mobile device for you to log in, for extra security. Just like the token thingie SE added a while ago. Except I never got that thing, first of all you have to pay for it ($6.50 I think), and second of all I don't own a cell phone lol. I hope Blizzard believes me, I might wanna use that account again someday, even though people on there are annoying sometimes.
#9 Jun 13 2010 at 9:07 AM Rating: Good
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AVG just finished, up to date virus definition base, did not find anything other than the usual few "tracking cookies"...

#10 Jun 13 2010 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
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did not find anything other than the usual few "tracking cookies"...

All that's left to do now is rant and rave about Allakhazam infecting your computer. Smiley: lol

#11 Jun 13 2010 at 9:23 AM Rating: Decent
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did not find anything other than the usual few "tracking cookies"...

All that's left to do now is rant and rave about Allakhazam infecting your computer. Smiley: lol
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#12 Jun 13 2010 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, happened to me too except the access was via mobile from Brazil. What you want to do is email all your gmail contacts and let them know your account was broken into, the person may send a spam email with links to viruses (from a trusted source, you) or emails saying "I'm stuck in London, my wallet has been stolen, please send me $100 by wire transfer so I can get home", so yeah, let everyone in your address book know.

In my case gmail picked up the spam and blocked it being sent out, but I let my contacts know just in case others had gone through.

POP is POP3 btw, it's a method of sending via a client like Outlook/Thunderbird rather than a browser.
#13 Jun 13 2010 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, happened to me too except the access was via mobile from Brazil. What you want to do is email all your gmail contacts and let them know your account was broken into, the person may send a spam email with links to viruses (from a trusted source, you) or emails saying "I'm stuck in London, my wallet has been stolen, please send me $100 by wire transfer so I can get home", so yeah, let everyone in your address book know.

In my case gmail picked up the spam and blocked it being sent out, but I let my contacts know just in case others had gone through.

POP is POP3 btw, it's a method of sending via a client like Outlook/Thunderbird rather than a browser.


Heh, I think the few family members I have added in these Gmail accounts would really become suspicious as to why some one from California is in London all of a sudden, without warning! All joking aside, if it's from POP3 does that mean they probably got the info from a google server or something? Should I be overly worried? I have a SE security token, Firefox with noscript & Adblock, and AVG didn't find anything so... idk, I'm still going to worry sick for awhile /sigh
#14 Jun 13 2010 at 10:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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POP just means they have harvested a lot of gmail login usernames/passwords and are using an automated client to automatically send email. You have a few different ways of sending email, POP3/SMTP - IMAP - Webmail, gmail is webmail but can be set up to use POP3, you set the client to receive mail from (say) mail.gmail.com the client connects to mail.gmail.com, they say "username/password" and if it matches you can download the emails from the server to your computer.

It's not just a "I'm stuck in London" thing (which does work, else they wouldn't still do it) it's them sending a virus with a message "omg, you got to see this, it's amazing!" and your friends/family see it's from *you* so click the link that they wouldn't do if a stranger were to send them an email.

It's not your computer either, I use Kaspersky which constantly has the best detection rates and my computer is clean as a whistle, it's something on Googles side.
#15 Jun 13 2010 at 10:32 AM Rating: Decent
holy crap, I just came home from work and checked my Gmail and got the exactly same thing, here's a picture (trust me it's real)

[img]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/ImperiaFFXI/gmailchina.png[/img]

Edited, Jun 13th 2010 12:32pm by ihatehordes
#16 Jun 13 2010 at 10:41 AM Rating: Good
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It also says it's not from a browser but from "POP3"? What's that mean?

POP3 is a mail protocol. Sounds like someone connecting directly to server instead of through gmail site (otherwise it'd say HTTP). Problem most likely isn't in your computer.

Edit: Beat to it ^_^ Shouldn't do other stuff mid-post.

Edit2: If you have security token, you have no reason to worry, can't get past that even if for some reason someone knew your password (which they really shouldn't from someone accessing gmail). ^_^

Edited, Jun 13th 2010 12:49pm by Sharain
#17 Jun 13 2010 at 11:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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I just got a really weird warning from G-Mail that says my account has been recently accessed from China, and to change my password if it wasn't me who accessed it from there... It wasn't an Email, it was a warning within G-Mail. Has anyone else got this? Kind of freaking me out.


I got this a few weeks back. In my case turned out that it was some RMT guy from china using my email account to spam emails to ppl advertising cheap WoW currency. My inbox grew 8x in a few hours and Gmail was threatening to terminate my account. Ended up having to reset my passwords is all. However i have a feeling if i still played FXII on my PC, it coulda been alot worse.

I only go to like 4 or five sites related to FFXI regularly and browse on firefox with all the security addons, so was pretty surprised this happened. I have my suspicions as to which site i frequent is to blame and have been avoiding it since. The truly odd part about the whole thing is i've never even tried WoW and this guy was setting up shop in my email account lol.



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#18 Jun 13 2010 at 11:36 AM Rating: Good
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You don't have to have been infected with anything to get your gmail account hacked, even if you have a strong password. The reason is, passwords suck to remember, especially if they're strong passwords. So, most people don't have a lot of different password. Maybe 1-3 tops. If you register for a website, and you use the same password that you have on your email address, they just "hacked" you. Because, if you recall, to register you had to give them your email address ;) So if you give them your email address, and your email password, you are "pwnt" and the only think keeping your email account secure is the fact that the website you registered on is benevolent.

OK, fine, mob rule wins, it's perfectly safe to have the same password for every account you own, fill your boots. Nothing could possibly go wrong.

Edited, Jun 13th 2010 6:24pm by Zaredx
#19 Jun 13 2010 at 12:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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You don't have to have been infected with anything to get your gmail account hacked, even if you have a strong password. The reason is, passwords suck to remember, especially if they're strong passwords. So, most people don't have a lot of different password. Maybe 1-3 tops. If you register for a website, and you use the same password that you have on your email address, they just "hacked" you. Because, if you recall, to register you had to give them your email address ;) So if you give them your email address, and your email password, you are "pwnt" and the only think keeping your email account secure is the fact that the website you registered on is benevolent.


Good logic there i suppose, but in my situation that was not the case. I'm a bit of a tightass when it comes to passwords, pins, etc. and i make new ones every time the need arises to make one. As such, none of the passwords i have on the FFXI sites i go to are the same and if i'm not mistaken i don't even use the same email address on all of them.

In any event, was just relaying my experience similar to the OPs like he/she asked.
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#20 Jun 13 2010 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
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I had my Gmail hijacked by Chinese not more than a few months ago, its completely unrelated to FFXI.

They change your signature message to a spamvertisement for I-forget-what and then send a blank email to everyone in your address book. I never got the 'your account has been accessed from China' message probably because I was among the first.

Check your signature settings and change your password.
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#21 Jun 13 2010 at 2:55 PM Rating: Good
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I just got a really weird warning from G-Mail that says my account has been recently accessed from China, and to change my password if it wasn't me who accessed it from there... It wasn't an Email, it was a warning within G-Mail. Has anyone else got this? Kind of freaking me out.
Interesting, I just got this a few days ago myself. I haven't played FFXI in a month and happened while using a computer I haven't played FFXI on.

Something similar also happened to my mom's email account on hotmail. She's old and doesn't play fun things though. Everyone on her address book ended up getting an email with some spam message about... I can't even remember.

Edited, Jun 13th 2010 3:58pm by bsphil
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#22 Jun 13 2010 at 4:36 PM Rating: Good
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I'm not sure what it is. I don't use my gmail account except for rubbish, I have a real email account so just use Gmail to sign up to stuff where I don't want to give my real email out, very few places have my gmail email. It's something on Googles side, not a keygen or virus on your computer.

The Gmail feature is pretty new, it detects if an IP address outside your natural area accesses the account, there is no way I could get to Brazil in 2 hours so a Brazilian logged in, Gmail let them (go figure) and when I tried to log in it recognised my IP address range as in the UK so locked my account, it won't lock out anyone else trying to log in, not until I've tried to (just in case I did manage to travel really fast to Brazil....).

Best bet, download Thunderbird or another real email client and use gmails SMTP/POP3, that way if your account does get broken into you have no contacts for them to spam, also change your gmail password every now and then.
#23 Jun 13 2010 at 5:23 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks for all the replies and info everyone. Yeah, the 2 out of 4 Gmails I have that they "accessed" I don't even have anyone on as far as contacts, just use them to sign up for things. My main personal Email is a yahoo address.
#24 Jun 16 2010 at 2:42 AM Rating: Good
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Just got this myself in the last few minutes, no signature changes, no contacts messaged that I can see. Very odd.
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#25 Jun 16 2010 at 7:27 PM Rating: Good
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I don't think there's a unifying goal with these hacks. Gmail's been getting hit from China for a variety of purposes lately. Some are spam-related, some are theft-related, and I'd wager that some are politically-related, too.

I had my gmail account hacked about a month ago from a Chinese IP. It's not unusual, especially lately. I was on roughly an hour after the hack, so I forced sign-out from the other IP, changed my passwords, and deleted any borderline-sensitive emails that I had sitting around (I didn't really have anything to worry about, but I figured I might as well clean house anyway). Haven't had any subsequent issues thus far, but obviously I'm keeping close tabs on a lot of personal info to see if any discrepancies crop up.

A friend of mine had also had his gmail hacked the week before mine, also from China. They used it to secure his Battle.net login info, and actually paid to reactivate his WoW account. Presumably, they were going to liquidate his assets, and perhaps sell his character. He was able to get it all sorted, though.

Google is pretty good about notifying you if there's an issue. Just make sure to force sign-out, and change your password to something strong. They instruct you on all the necessary steps to re-secure your account if it happens to you.
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