Forum Settings
       
Reply To Thread

PC FreezingFollow

#1 Jun 01 2010 at 5:54 PM Rating: Good
Loose Cannon *BANG*
Avatar
*****
10,908 posts
Windows 7 Home Premium
AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor 3.41 GHz
8.00 GB of Corsair DDR3 RAM
2x ATI Radeon Sapphire 5870 Graphics Cards
AMD 790 FX Chipset

I've run both the Windows memory test as well as Memtest86+
I've run Ccleaner, antivirus, tried updating/rolling back all drivers and even flashed the BIOS on my motherboard today and that helped for about 4 hours. I've tried disabling one of my video cards. I've messed with my power settings. I made sure my memory was running in sync with my motherboard. I checked my event viewer and all I get is this:

Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
Date: 6/1/2010 5:24:34 PM
Event ID: 41
Task Category: (63)
Level: Critical
Keywords: (2)
User: SYSTEM
Computer: BigStabby
Description:
The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power" Guid="{331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}" />
<EventID>41</EventID>
<Version>2</Version>
<Level>1</Level>
<Task>63</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000000002</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2010-06-01T23:24:34.230455400Z" />
<EventRecordID>25665</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="8" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>BigStabby</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data Name="BugcheckCode">0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter1">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter2">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter3">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter4">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="SleepInProgress">false</Data>
<Data Name="PowerButtonTimestamp">0</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

When I google it, I get more of the same answers I already knew/read. HELP ME!!!!

____________________________
Quote:
The Tower of Power, too sweet to be sour, I'm funky like a monkey, skies the limit and space is the place!
#2 Jun 02 2010 at 3:41 AM Rating: Decent
**
602 posts
Found this on a blog:

"One time as I rebooted the computer after flashing the BIOS (one of the tips I found), I just happened to be looking through the Windows Performance Monitor and I noticed that Windows was only reporting 4 of my 6GB of memory. I went into BIOS to confirm and it was also only reading 4GB.

I became worried that one of the memory sticks had died for some reason. However, after reseating the memory, Windows and BIOS reported 6GB of memory. The computer stopped auto-rebooting and the error disappeared."

Unsure if it will help you but eh worth the try. Take the memory out and then re-seat it. Make sure it is reporting all the memory in the BIOS when you bootup and also in Windows 7. I'll look for more information after I get done watching the AMD Fusion Press Conference. CPU + GPU into one. Yes please, cannot wait until next year for this technology to come out.

Also, what power supply do you have? I hope you have at the minimum 700-750 watts for that setup. :D

Edited, Jun 2nd 2010 5:48am by Excenmille
#3 Jun 02 2010 at 7:22 AM Rating: Good
Loose Cannon *BANG*
Avatar
*****
10,908 posts
1250 watt Antec.
____________________________
Quote:
The Tower of Power, too sweet to be sour, I'm funky like a monkey, skies the limit and space is the place!
#4 Jun 02 2010 at 10:00 AM Rating: Decent
****
5,159 posts
You said you tried disabling one of your video cards. Does that involve removing one, checking for the problem, then switching one card for the other, so that you know for sure both cards work?
#5 Jun 02 2010 at 10:14 AM Rating: Good
Loose Cannon *BANG*
Avatar
*****
10,908 posts
Majivo wrote:
You said you tried disabling one of your video cards. Does that involve removing one, checking for the problem, then switching one card for the other, so that you know for sure both cards work?


Yep. Same with the RAM. (had to do it anyways for the memtest)
____________________________
Quote:
The Tower of Power, too sweet to be sour, I'm funky like a monkey, skies the limit and space is the place!
#6 Jun 02 2010 at 11:14 AM Rating: Good
Terrorfiend
*****
12,905 posts
Have you ruled out CPU overheating?
#7 Jun 02 2010 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
Loose Cannon *BANG*
Avatar
*****
10,908 posts
Liquid cooling installed. It never goes above 50.
____________________________
Quote:
The Tower of Power, too sweet to be sour, I'm funky like a monkey, skies the limit and space is the place!
#8 Jun 02 2010 at 12:14 PM Rating: Good
**
604 posts
Pics of task monitor please? If hardware seems ok, it's probably the software unless it's the HDD
#9 Jun 02 2010 at 1:04 PM Rating: Good
Loose Cannon *BANG*
Avatar
*****
10,908 posts
Screenshot
Resources.
Screenshot
Processes.
Screenshot
Services #1
Screenshot
Services #2
Screenshot
Services #3
Screenshot
Services #4

Edited, Jun 2nd 2010 3:17pm by Doug
____________________________
Quote:
The Tower of Power, too sweet to be sour, I'm funky like a monkey, skies the limit and space is the place!
#10 Jun 03 2010 at 9:02 AM Rating: Good
**
604 posts
Sorry, it (the type) is so small I can't read it :/

Well basically, look at each process and service and see if you can strip it down a bit manually, piece by piece. Some are obviously windows programs that you would probably need (if you're not sure use safe mode to get an idea). Others are fluff that you could turn off.

I used to do this if nothing else worked although it could take hours but in almost all those cases it's a faulty program (usually a huge resource hogger for no reason other than windows trying to keep it from crashing). So look for huge resource hoggers and shut those down first.

Sorry I can't help more than that.
#11 Jun 03 2010 at 9:33 AM Rating: Decent
Is it freezing up or blue screening? If its freezing you may need to change your ram voltage in the bios. I had a couple machiens lately that needed me to manually set the ram voltage as the auto settings where causing it to randomly lock up.
#12 Jun 03 2010 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
Loose Cannon *BANG*
Avatar
*****
10,908 posts
Aiph wrote:
Sorry, it (the type) is so small I can't read it :/

Well basically, look at each process and service and see if you can strip it down a bit manually, piece by piece. Some are obviously windows programs that you would probably need (if you're not sure use safe mode to get an idea). Others are fluff that you could turn off.

I used to do this if nothing else worked although it could take hours but in almost all those cases it's a faulty program (usually a huge resource hogger for no reason other than windows trying to keep it from crashing). So look for huge resource hoggers and shut those down first.

Sorry I can't help more than that.


It does it even if I'm running on a clean boot.

Quote:
Is it freezing up or blue screening? If its freezing you may need to change your ram voltage in the bios. I had a couple machiens lately that needed me to manually set the ram voltage as the auto settings where causing it to randomly lock up.


It' just freezing. A blue screen would almost be a blessing. My voltage is set to min 1.5V and max is 2.5V, which is supposed to be the norm, so I didn't mess with it.
____________________________
Quote:
The Tower of Power, too sweet to be sour, I'm funky like a monkey, skies the limit and space is the place!
#13 Jun 03 2010 at 1:14 PM Rating: Decent
Play with stepping the ram speed up and down. I had to step some ddr3 ram way down a few weeks ago to make it run stable. WHile I realise it should run normally, sometimes certain mobos and ram dont like each other. What mobo and ram is it?
#14 Jun 03 2010 at 6:09 PM Rating: Good
Loose Cannon *BANG*
Avatar
*****
10,908 posts
Alobont wrote:
Play with stepping the ram speed up and down. I had to step some ddr3 ram way down a few weeks ago to make it run stable. WHile I realise it should run normally, sometimes certain mobos and ram dont like each other. What mobo and ram is it?


ASUS M4A79T Deluxe

I doubt it, but, is it possible that I might hurt my computer by turning down the juice on my ram?
____________________________
Quote:
The Tower of Power, too sweet to be sour, I'm funky like a monkey, skies the limit and space is the place!
#15 Jun 04 2010 at 8:31 AM Rating: Good
**
604 posts
Not likely although too much will hurt it. Too little just won't boot up or boot up reallllllyyyyyyyy slowwwwwwwbrooooo

Well, it looks like you tried everything you could. Time for a reformat! If that don't fix it then it's hardware based.

Edited, Jun 4th 2010 10:32am by Aiph
#16 Jun 04 2010 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
Loose Cannon *BANG*
Avatar
*****
10,908 posts
Aiph wrote:
Not likely although too much will hurt it. Too little just won't boot up or boot up reallllllyyyyyyyy slowwwwwwwbrooooo

Well, it looks like you tried everything you could. Time for a reformat! If that don't fix it then it's hardware based.

Edited, Jun 4th 2010 10:32am by Aiph


Smiley: frown I guess I'll send it back when I go on leave. Thanks for all the help, guys. At least I learned some new stuff.
____________________________
Quote:
The Tower of Power, too sweet to be sour, I'm funky like a monkey, skies the limit and space is the place!
#17 Jun 09 2010 at 11:53 AM Rating: Good
Loose Cannon *BANG*
Avatar
*****
10,908 posts
I can't believe this. I never set up my screen saver because if I'm not using the computer I turn it off. I set it up and It's been 2 days without a single freeze. I'll post again if this retarded "fix" turns out to be a temporary fluke.
____________________________
Quote:
The Tower of Power, too sweet to be sour, I'm funky like a monkey, skies the limit and space is the place!
#18 Jun 09 2010 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good
Loose Cannon *BANG*
Avatar
*****
10,908 posts
Froze not two minutes after that post. I think my computer is self aware. Also, it hates me. Smiley: glare
____________________________
Quote:
The Tower of Power, too sweet to be sour, I'm funky like a monkey, skies the limit and space is the place!
#19 Jun 10 2010 at 9:16 AM Rating: Decent
Are you sure your power settings are set correctly, ie turning off hibernate and all that stuff.
#20 Jun 13 2010 at 12:55 AM Rating: Decent
**
801 posts
just curious.. are you using CCC to manage the card(s)? Seems to me there were some issues with some cards slipping into 2D mode a while back--issues in the BIOS. People either used software workarounds, or had to manually edit their BIOS if a fixed one wasn't made available for their card.

I use ATI Tray Tools to configure mine--it doesn't switch b/t 2D/3D BIOS profiles when ATT is managing the clocks/voltages. It loads an Idle profile (low volt/clocks) at startup, and I have gaming profiles (different clocks, AA/AF, etc) with shortcuts that launch the profile then call the executable for the games. I also have a shortcut to the Idle profile so I can drop clocks/voltage when I'm done gaming as well.

Also, noticed you had Corsairs. Used their memory for years. Love them as a company (had to replace a few sticks, no hassles whatsoever)--but some cards can be really picky about voltages, especially if you are running them on their enhanced profiles. SPD doesn't always set them up quite right. A lot of times I had to go in and manually raise the TRFC settings 5-10 higher than the SPD reported or support recommended. Things would seem to run fine otherwise, but just randomly crash under load. Test overnight with Prime95 after tweaking timeings (use one of the larger FTT schemes to stress RAM more, Small is more just CPU/Cache Memory)

Raist
#21 Jun 15 2010 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
I wonder if his hard drive is beginning to go.
#22 Jun 18 2010 at 6:12 AM Rating: Decent
HDD would start maing noise usually and typical HDD problems result in blue screens. Its a memory or graphics issue most likely.
Reply To Thread

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 5 All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (5)