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#1 Jun 16 2004 at 3:13 AM Rating: Decent
Here's the story:

Last weekend EQ crashed in the middle of play and my internet connection went mad in telling me I had conflicting IP-adresses (which is impossible as its a single PC with no network whatsoever). So I thought the obvious and had all kinds of virus scan/removal software running for 2 days(!) as nothing changed.

It turned out my cable provider was causing the problem and they fixed it - so far so good. But I got that annoying "no 3d device" msg upon login and had dxdiag running - and now comes the bizarr part: My sytem used the standard graphics driver (vga.dll) and not the one for my Nvidia Geforce FX5200. So I downloaded the latest driver package from Nvidias site but NOTHING happened. Although the FX 5200 as a functioning graphics card by system analysing programms I cant make DirectX USE it.

So I got 3 questions:

How can I try to reinstall my FX 5200 in case something is wrong here? Windows XP is useless in this case as the PC was bought pre-assambelled and pre-installed and the device manager does not offer me the option to re-install my graphics card (not even de-install)

Is there a way to find the command line that states that the vga.dll is to be used and somehow exchange it "manually" with a geforce driver?

How could this happen at all?????

THX in advance!

EDIT: I also get a message after each new start of my PC saying "sdkzt32.dll is missing" twice. So far i got no hint what application this dll is for...

Edited, Wed Jun 16 04:16:16 2004 by MordenRaspCleric
#2 Jun 16 2004 at 6:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Start
Control Panel
System
Hardware
Device Manager
Display Adapters
Double Click the adaptor.
Click on the "driver" tab

You an unistall it from there. You can also update it or whatever. If you mean physically uninstalling it, open the box and take the video card out I guess.

/shrug.


Were you, I'd click on "update driver" from the tab and seeing if you get that to work. If you don't see it in the device manager, that's another issue completely.


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#3 Jun 16 2004 at 6:29 AM Rating: Decent
thx but problem is i really cannot see it in the device manager. even funnier if i ask for install/deinstall he offers me a list of ATI devices to install but not my existing Geforce.

So if i physically remove my graphics card - will the standard VGA driver allow me to run windows and do an automatic search for new hardware compoinents to be installed?
#4 Jun 16 2004 at 2:33 PM Rating: Decent
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So if i physically remove my graphics card - will the standard VGA driver allow me to run windows and do an automatic search for new hardware compoinents to be installed?

Sure it would, but there's no guarantee that's going to help any. Physically messing with it I mean.

If you run dxdiag (start, run, dxdiag, enter) and click on "display" what does it say?
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#5 Jun 17 2004 at 7:20 AM Rating: Decent
dxdiag says that
1. all directx data is installed and no errors are to be found
2. the PC uses the standard graphics driver (VGA.dll is listed) and I should update to the latest driver.

I checked my system with ARIA and this lists the Nividia GeForce as the operating graphic card.

I updated twice allready at the official sites of Nvidia and also installed directX anew - but nothing changed.

I am no expert but from the information i get it looks simply as if my system insist in using the stadard VGA driver although card and drivers are all installed and runnin properly.

Guess i wont get to solve this on my own :(

Edited, Thu Jun 17 08:21:22 2004 by MordenRaspCleric
#6 Jun 17 2004 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Don't give up so easily.

Was everything working before the EQ crash?
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#7 Jun 17 2004 at 10:22 AM Rating: Decent
everything was working properly before this crash which was caused by my cable provider (they got still problems with conflicting IP adresses but thats another story). my best guess is, that my 2 days amok-running in search of a virus, trojan or worm which caused this and the deletion of LOTS of files (some manual *ouch) either wrecked my system directly as a result of over-deleting OR some trojan/virus/worm took revenge upon deletion (I've heard of such bastards doing the scorched-earth number).

my only option remaining is to either figurte out how i can add the dx drivers into some command line instead of the vga.dll (but got no clue HOW to do) or simply disconnect my graphic card and hope the auto-installation routine windows offers will get it back online upon reimplantation of the GeForce.

OH...and i checked the possibility of a system restore to an earlier time: I got the option but my system did not do a system status safe automatically. I can only advise everyone who got Windows XP to check for the possibility to save the current system status over this option so you can everytime restore your system including drivers, prgrams and everything else (xcept for files like .doc, jpg, etc.)to the status of this given date. If I had done so even once I wouldn't be in deep trouble now :(
#8 Jun 17 2004 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
If you physically remove the graphics card, you won't have a display at all unless you also have an on-board video also.

Do you? And if so, is it properly disabled in bios? That could cause exactly the problem you describe.


The more I think about it, the more it sounds like that could be your problem. It sounds like that during your frantic scramblings, you may have begun using the onboard video and that your graphics card isn't even running at the moment.


Edited, Thu Jun 17 12:44:10 2004 by TStephens
#9 Jun 18 2004 at 6:31 AM Rating: Decent
possible - i am trying to work it out with some friends today - thx for your advice so far!
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