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#202 Jun 05 2008 at 1:21 PM Rating: Good
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considering you say "close to no acc gear", any boost to +acc would be more significant to your DoT than if you were already near the acc cap. so i think GKL is your clear winner.
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#203 Jun 05 2008 at 11:33 PM Rating: Good
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GKL is the clear winner anyway, Schwarz Lance is trash.

Here's why.

From 0% TP, it will take seven hits for Schwarz to get 100% TP, eight for GKL, assuming no Store TP. We do this by dividing 100 by the TP gain per hit (13.3 for GKL, 14.6 for Schwarz) and apply the Ceiling function, that's to say, take the next integer higher than or equal to the number you get.

Now, GKL will swing every 8.2 seconds, Schwarz every 9.183333 seconds (or, if you'd prefer an expression with a fraction in it, 9 11/60). To get this number, divide the delay by 60.

That means that if we multiply each weapon's swing time with the number of hits needed to build up 100% TP, we are looking at 64.283333 seconds for Schwarz to get the requisite number of hits, and 65.6 seconds for GKL.

THIS IS ASSUMING NO JUMPS, DOUBLE ATTACK, STORE TP, OR INITIAL TP.

From those numbers Schwarz looks marginally superior and I look like I've defeated my own argument.

However, we're also assuming 100% Accuracy here, which is impossible given the 95% Accuracy cap.

Let's assume 80% Accuracy from gear, traits, etc. versus an arbitrary target. I picked 80% arbitrarily because on average that's a fairly comfortable hit rate.

With GKL we're looking at a further 3.5% increase (halve Accuracy to get Acc%)

On average that means one hit in every five from the Schwarz Lance will miss, and rounghly one in six with the GKL (to be sure, 1 - 835/1000 = 0.167, which is close enough)

Obviously, since you WILL miss every so often (fact of life, I'm afraid), you'll get better returns from the GKL; you'll be hitting faster and more often (meaning more frequent weaponskills) in exchange for what is ultimately a very minor loss in overall damage.

I would toss out some Binomial Distribution here, but to get a fair sample size we'd need n=30, with x=5 for GKL and x'=6 for Schwarz (not typos, 1/6 = 5/30 and 1/5 = 6/30), and since the Binomial tables in my old A-Level formula book goes only as far as n=20, I can't be bothered to do thirteen separate calculations for P(X<x) and then waste ages adding it all up.

Since you'll still be missing on occasion even if you were at the Accuracy cap at 60 (which would mean you've either got REALLY good gear or you're eating Sushi, or both), it's fair to say that GKL is a superior option to Schwarz.

As GamalielWise said above me, there's even more reason to have GKL if you've got "close to no Acc gear"; the drop in damage is more noticeable if you're comparing, say, 60% with 63.5% (again, arbitrary numbers) as opposed to the sample rates in my example above.


By the way, DPS is meaningless on a job that has two almost-on-demand attacks on top of weapon skills.

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#204 Jun 09 2008 at 1:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?178437

I could really use some help on equipment. I've provided a link to my gear above. After a few months off due to family and work-related obligations, I'm jumping back in, and I have some worries over my equipment that I'd LOVE some input on.

I've read Lucinus' stuff (which has been a great boon to maximizing my play time to exp ratio), but think I could still use some help in regards to my gear.

I'm level 40. I'm subbing BLU. Since play time is limited, I'm always soloing. I seem to be able to chain 2 or 3 EMs without too much difficulty on Purgonorgo Isle, and can usually take on a T with little to no anxiety. But I'm STILL wearing Centurion's Scale armor on Head, Body, Legs and Feet. I just don't know what are some better options for my present level, or if what I'm working with right now is fine.

I also wanted to add that I alternate between a Lizard Strap +1 and a Brass Grip

Last month I picked up the Walkure Mask and Brigandine in anticipation of the next few levels. I don't have a lot of cash on my DRG or my mules (maybe 20k altogether), but am considering picking up an Earth Doublet at 42. But is there any other equipment (reasonably priced is preferable) to help cover the defense deficit I'm feeling from the Leg, Head, and Feet slots? I think I've kept the centurion stuff around because of the stat bonuses, but I'm not really sure if they make much of a difference at this level.

Any help would be MOST appreciated! Thanks!



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#205 Jun 09 2008 at 7:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Lucinus, I must say that was some pretty in depth research and math o.O, thanks for the replies and I knew I was right ha ha ha! Got some new gear, 75 and I wish Thalassocrat was a little cheaper >.>. Not too bad though considering it should be the last polearm I buy, unless the +1, but I dont see that unless I win the FFXI lottery.
#206 Jun 09 2008 at 11:46 PM Rating: Good
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Actually, Johnny, your solo gear's not that bad at all for your level. I'd try swapping into a Cuir Bouilli (yes, I know, only two levels 'til Earth Doublet... you could also get by in Centurion's at a pinch) and getting Iron Cuisses, and upgrading your back to something like High Breath Mantle. As for your Centurion's Greaves, short of the synthed upgrades and Volans Greaves (Mountain Gaiters too, but they're expensive), I really think you're good to go 'til AF feet. Apart from upgrading your earrings, the rest of your gear's fine - you seem to have upgrades lined up, which is good.

Can you quest a Venerer Ring to replace your Balance?
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#207 Jun 11 2008 at 9:48 AM Rating: Good
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That's good to hear, read, or something of that sort, Lucinus, and I really appreciate the response. Unfortunately, I've not had much luck in finding help to knock out the Promyvion missions in order to get Tavnazia access. I'd love to because that Venerer's Ring looks fantastic, but time hasn't been working on my side lately.

I'll definitely take a look at the prices for Iron Cuisses and the Cuir Bouilli, but I take some comfort in knowing that even if my coffers can't afford it, my cent's armor will at least hold up for a bit longer. I was considering upgrading those pieces, but read that they can't be used in level restricted areas.

What might you suggest for the ear slots?
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#208 Jun 11 2008 at 10:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Just HQ those Beetle Earrings and you'll be set for a while. You could look at a Pigeon Earring if you're worried about your HP, but from the sound of it you're also rather worried about your wallet. To be honest, though (and in what seems like contradicting my upgrade suggestion*) what you have isn't terrible and arguably the HQ is a minor upgrade, so you may not feel it's worth shelling out a load of extra cash for another Attack+2. It's why, at those levels, I just stuck with a Bone+1 instead of a second Beetle+1, though admittedly, I'd synthed and signed myself.

*I really need to stop that...
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#209 Jun 11 2008 at 11:39 AM Rating: Good
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I've been having fun with my drg ^^; its now lvl 44
I usually sub blu for soloing
>.> soloing set-up
food is rice dumplings(solo) kabobs(partys with a bard/cor) sushi(beetles >.< **** they evasive sometimes)
weapon AF weapon >.> dont laugh
grip lizard +1
ammo happy egg
head Trump crown
neck spike(ajase beads if in windy area)
ear 1 pigeon
ear 2 drone(physical when mp is lower or in partys)
>.> full wonder set ^^; yay for hp (in parties wonder body and pants battle gloves and bounding boots unless no acc problems then full wonder)
ring 1 carect(venerer +jaeger in parties)
ring 2 sandy(jaeger if i need acc)rings can be interchanged
back earth cape(yay vit)
waist tilt belt
hp = ~810 with food mp = 170 with spells <== soling
>.> How that work? Right now I've been soloing in east raunfare [s]since 43. ^^ ladybugs are easy so far i get chain 4 on them without too much problem with my npc dont have to rest much either.

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#210 Jun 11 2008 at 11:07 PM Rating: Decent
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food is rice dumplings(solo) kabobs(partys with a bard/cor) sushi(beetles >.< **** they evasive sometimes)
Sushi is bad. Use Rice Dumplings full-time until Life Belt at the very least.
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weapon AF weapon >.> dont laugh
Why would we laugh? It's the best you'll get 'til 48.
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grip lizard +1
Good. Use Brass+1 in parties.
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ammo happy egg
Good.
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head Trump crown
This is fine.
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neck spike(ajase beads if in windy area)
This is fine.
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ear 1 pigeon
Good.
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ear 2 drone(physical when mp is lower or in partys)
Terrible, get Beetle+1 or another Pigeon.
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>.> full wonder set ^^; yay for hp (in parties wonder body and pants battle gloves and bounding boots unless no acc problems then full wonder)
Hands and feet are fine, but if you're soloing then your legs are questionable and your body's atrocious. Get some harder-wearing armour.
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ring 1 carect(venerer +jaeger in parties)
You're a Taru, you don't need a dedicated MP ring. Use your Venerer.
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ring 2 sandy(jaeger if i need acc)rings can be interchanged
Atrocious, use your Jaeger.
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back earth cape(yay vit)
Fine. Upgrade to Jaguar at 47.
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waist tilt belt
Fine, replace with Life Belt at 48.
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Edited, Jun 12th 2008 3:13am by Lucinus
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#211 Jun 12 2008 at 6:13 AM Rating: Good
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hmm as for my body and legs to me the legs feel better than the bastok panties and as for the body i was waiting for my brigadine at 45 ^^ i kinda enjoyed my HB trigger at ~270 also have everything else ecept the jaeger mantle waiting for me thanks for the information
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#212 Jun 12 2008 at 10:49 AM Rating: Good
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I didn't mean use a Republic Subligar solo - I meant slap on the Defense in the shape of Iron Cuisses or something (I used Bastokan Cuisses, personally), unless the stats on Wonder Braccae really do make all the difference.
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#213 Jun 12 2008 at 11:35 AM Rating: Default
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full af and sh fulltime always
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#214 Jun 12 2008 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
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I hope you're being sarcastic, because that's just retarded. Yes, Scorpion Harness is good, yes, bits of AF do have situational use (head and legs are fine for solo, hands seem fair if nothing better's going), but by no means should SH + 4/5 AF be considered "good" - even I saw it as little more than a stopgap measure before getting the money for, as an example, Tabin Boots +1...

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#215 Jun 13 2008 at 7:58 AM Rating: Default
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I hope you're being sarcastic, because that's just retarded. Yes, Scorpion Harness is good, yes, bits of AF do have situational use (head and legs are fine for solo, hands seem fair if nothing better's going), but by no means should SH + 4/5 AF be considered "good" - even I saw it as little more than a stopgap measure before getting the money for, as an example, Tabin Boots +1...


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#216 Jun 22 2008 at 9:27 PM Rating: Decent
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full af and sh fulltime always


Sad thing, that's 99% of the dragoons on Ragnarok.
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#217 Jun 22 2008 at 9:36 PM Rating: Good
Okay... bear in mind: I'm often too busy to log in for long periods of time to farm, therefore too broke to buy a whole lot, but this is what I've got so far...

Weapon: Thalassocrat
Head: Wal*Mart Turban (Wyvern Helm for WS, Drachen Armet for HB if I'm /whm)
Body: Assault Jerkin
Hands: Fencing Bracers
Legs: Barone Cosciales
Feet: Marine F Boots
Rings: Ruby Ring, Woodsman Ring
Earrings: Bushinomimi, Assault Earring
Neck: Chiv. Chain
Back: Amemet Mantle
Range: Orphic Egg (told you I was broke/busy ><)
Waist: Life Belt/Warwolf Belt
#218 Jun 22 2008 at 10:16 PM Rating: Good
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Kellinda wrote:
Okay... bear in mind: I'm often too busy to log in for long periods of time to farm, therefore too broke to buy a whole lot, but this is what I've got so far...

Weapon: Thalassocrat
Head: Wal*Mart Turban (Wyvern Helm for WS, Drachen Armet for HB if I'm /whm)
Body: Assault Jerkin
Hands: Fencing Bracers
Legs: Barone Cosciales
Feet: Marine F Boots
Rings: Ruby Ring, Woodsman Ring
Earrings: Bushinomimi, Assault Earring
Neck: Chiv. Chain
Back: Amemet Mantle
Range: Orphic Egg (told you I was broke/busy ><)
Waist: Life Belt/Warwolf Belt


best cheap upgrade that springs to mind is amir boots. 2x ACC rings would be nice, as would HQing the back and replacing bushinomimi with a spike/coral/merman (or fowling) earring. NQ tarasque mitts not a bad idea either.

other more significant stuff would require more time/money, and is mainly outlined in previous posts in this thread by various people.

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#219 Jun 22 2008 at 11:46 PM Rating: Decent
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well heres my updated gear for now, still a work in progress and im gonna get a woodmens ring in place of the dex ring

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?185928
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#220 Jun 23 2008 at 12:00 AM Rating: Good
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well heres my updated gear for now, still a work in progress and im gonna get a woodmens ring in place of the dex ring

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?185928


if that's party gear, it would be good to try to get that AF off. if i were you, i'd put on crow gear in the head, legs, and feet slots. republic subligar and any +DD stat for feet would be okay as well (neither slot really shines regardless though). pole strap over myth+1 when you can. other than that, nothing jumps out at me. maybe i'm missing something though.
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#221 Jun 23 2008 at 8:53 AM Rating: Default
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I think you missed the dex ring.

Get acc rings. woodsman rings are only 100-99 k on your server.
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#222 Jun 23 2008 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
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This is what I have on my DRG right now. Any helpful comments or suggestions would be great.

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?147170
#223 Jun 23 2008 at 11:06 AM Rating: Default
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get rid of your dex rings and get some ACC rings

Barone pants work nicely although dusk pants are popular as well.
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OK, looking for advise now that I have money (yay for a lucky KS30's!)

TP Setup
WS Setup

A few pieces I have that aren't being used right now:
Askar hands and feet
Assault Jerkin
Pahluwan hat
AF2 Hands and Body (I use body in my call wyvern macro though)
Full AF1

Things I can easily buy if proven useful:
Pieces of Barone
Dusk Legs
Flame Ring
Etc.

basically wondering if I should take out any ACC from my TP set (I parsed 94.3% on bird camp with madrigal/minuet combo yesterday)... ie, shoudl I just use Chivalrous Chain full time instead of PCA for the extra STR and the +1 Store TP.

My other issue is pants... DRG has a sucktastic selection it seems. I will be doing salvage right away, and since I am not a rich Taru I told them my priority to start was Ares's legs for DRG and Skadi feet/legs for THF and I would be a happy camper. Homam Body and Legs will probably happen over the next couple month with any sort of luck as well. Also, should I create different WS macros for WT vs PT? right now I just use the single macro as it pretty much puts all my STR and fills in the rest with dex on both. Coming from THF where I have different equip setups for DE, SB, and Evis... I am still relatively new to DRG WS's and what to build for.

I am also focusing on Swift Belt over the next month and seeing if I can get myself one finally to work towards my haste cap on THF and hopefully cross it over to DRG as well.

Thanks for any input!
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#225 Jun 23 2008 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
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http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?188804

Unfortunately due to my random work schedual, im not able to do much more than party when i get on, so its rare for me to do assaults or farm so i dont have a lot of gil or rare/ex equip. I do have walmart turban, and wyvern helm and 6 merits into polearm if that helps at all
#226 Jun 23 2008 at 5:13 PM Rating: Good
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http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?188804

Unfortunately due to my random work schedual, im not able to do much more than party when i get on, so its rare for me to do assaults or farm so i dont have a lot of gil or rare/ex equip. I do have walmart turban, and wyvern helm and 6 merits into polearm if that helps at all


first, sell your flame and triumph rings and put the money toward useful stuff with ACC and ATT on it. beyond that, consult earlier posts.
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