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#1302 Mar 18 2010 at 5:44 PM Rating: Good
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I imagine it would be. Innin could be very nice, but the fact you have to be behind the mob, coupled with the fact it diminishes over time will put it firmly worse than Hasso.

/War might become worthwhile for high acc fights (like byakko) due to aggressor (pizza+1 mad/march sits you at about 75% acc) if you don't need the defense offered by other sub choices, but I think the Store TP and Hasso will still keep Sam firmly in the lead.
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#1303 Mar 18 2010 at 11:52 PM Rating: Good
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#1304 Mar 19 2010 at 1:49 AM Rating: Good
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/War might become worthwhile for high acc fights (like byakko) due to aggressor (pizza+1 mad/march sits you at about 75% acc) if you don't need the defense offered by other sub choices, but I think the Store TP and Hasso will still keep Sam firmly in the lead.


I seriously doubt it.

Hasso=10acc all the time.
Agressor=20 acc 3/5 of the time= ~12 acc over time.

/war gets "better" no doubt, but it will be the same comparison as always. Zerk/DA vs hasso/Med/-1 hit for Xhit. If you decide to use /war it WONT be because your acc is low. Hasso matches aggressor and does so in a consistent fasion unlike the +20 spikes.

So long as you are getting haste/atk buffs /sam pummels /war as per usual.

Not to mention foods like pizza will be INCREDIBLE at 99. The %acc foods will be completely absurd with another 25 levels of dex/combat skill. I seriously doubt drg will ever need anything more than pizza. And theres always a shot at a 3rd tier acc boost.

I imagine there will have to be a Minuet V just to keep up with the higher atk/def numbers of higher levels as the static atk bonus from min will start to look pretty crappy compared to chaos.

I really dont see /war comming outta the closet unless they do some severe adjustments to the entire combat formula system that makes atk more valuable to compete with haste/acc and not cap so "easily" with buffs/debuffs.



Edited, Mar 19th 2010 3:55am by Banalaty
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#1305 Mar 19 2010 at 4:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Banalaty wrote:
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/War might become worthwhile for high acc fights (like byakko) due to aggressor (pizza+1 mad/march sits you at about 75% acc) if you don't need the defense offered by other sub choices, but I think the Store TP and Hasso will still keep Sam firmly in the lead.


I seriously doubt it.

Hasso=10acc all the time.
Agressor=20 acc 3/5 of the time= ~12 acc over time.

/war gets "better" no doubt, but it will be the same comparison as always. Zerk/DA vs hasso/Med/-1 hit for Xhit. If you decide to use /war it WONT be because your acc is low. Hasso matches aggressor and does so in a consistent fasion unlike the +20 spikes.

So long as you are getting haste/atk buffs /sam pummels /war as per usual.

Not to mention foods like pizza will be INCREDIBLE at 99. The %acc foods will be completely absurd with another 25 levels of dex/combat skill. I seriously doubt drg will ever need anything more than pizza. And theres always a shot at a 3rd tier acc boost.

I imagine there will have to be a Minuet V just to keep up with the higher atk/def numbers of higher levels as the static atk bonus from min will start to look pretty crappy compared to chaos.

I really dont see /war comming outta the closet unless they do some severe adjustments to the entire combat formula system that makes atk more valuable to compete with haste/acc and not cap so "easily" with buffs/debuffs.



Edited, Mar 19th 2010 3:55am by Banalaty


Aggressor is +25 acc. The most important function of Hasso is 10% haste.
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#1306 Mar 19 2010 at 5:24 AM Rating: Good
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In that case it will be like 15Acc constanly. I'd forgotten about Hasso's Acc boost lol. Yes, looks like it will remain worse than /Sam then when you're properly buffed.

There is still a chance that there will be mobs with evasion equivilent to byakkos at 99.
On byakko I was parsing 75% acc with Pizza+1 Mad/March Hasso.
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#1307 Mar 19 2010 at 10:38 AM Rating: Good
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Whoops my bad. Forgot its 25 acc. I was thinking of focus. Either way, its 5 acc over hasso. It is still not going to change the current relationship of /sam to /war (also /sam was specifically mentioned to have Sekkonoki(sp) moved down in level to be sub-able so /sam gets a new toy as well). 5acc should not be the deciding factor in the comparison so it wont be "Hmmm fighting Byakko2.0 today.....i better /war" uh..no.


Heh i guess i rarely notice. I am usually on Thf duty in sky. 2min feint, do you need it? :P

Usually prep one before it pops so feint on for 30 sec>wait ~45 sec>On for 30 sec>wait a few sec>usally PD around this time>one more feint to finish it off.

I hardly worry about eva anymore. Feint on a 2 min timer is more than enough for the "occasional" thing like lurkers in merits, it satisfies zergs, and even on general evasive mobs it provides nice and frequent windows for DDs to unload with.

Especially when DDs (as you say) can hit ~75% on these guys anyway, its not like your at 30% acc or anything. 75% is still really pretty decent considering the situation. Toss in frequent feints and your avg acc overall would be around 80-85%.

I would consider it a more serious problem if we didnt have access to acc boosts. Hunters/Mad/feint and drgs(2handers) natural acc combined with things like pizza if necessary, i really dont see how acc can ever be an issue in a properly formed up group. Low-man/solo etc when you dont have the luxury of many of those things is when this really starts to matter. Though i seriously doubt one would be considering /war for that :P
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#1308 Mar 19 2010 at 2:27 PM Rating: Good
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Also, take note that if you're using /WAR for byakko, unless you LS is kinda crappy and the fight drags on forever you might end up having bergressor up the entire fight.

Right now personally I take DRG/WAR to sky gods anyway, just because of how drastically more potent berserk is on such high level targets. You can also get away with it on DRG because of super jump, whereas DRK/WAR for example might find themselves in a bit more trouble. This goes even moreso for Kirin.

Edited, Mar 19th 2010 3:29pm by bsphil
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#1309 Mar 20 2010 at 8:45 PM Rating: Good
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You need substantial buffs (read: 2brd or brd+cor) to actually do good damage on byakko anyway. Pizza+1 Mad/March gives me 75% hit rate but drakesbane average of only 300-400. You're probably better off getting a true 6hit (if you haven't got one), using sushi and spamming wheeling thrust if you only have one bard, or no support at all.

Edit: this is only for byakko, and any Lv99 equivilent. It's not so much of a problem with other gods as their evasion isn't so stupid, and you can ditch the mad (although your Drakes numbers may still be low if you're getting double march and only have 1 brd).

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#1310 Mar 21 2010 at 12:07 AM Rating: Good
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Joined a new HNM shell the other day, got N head today. 5/5 heca complete!!! Smiley: grin

Edit: Just finished my light gorget Smiley: smile

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Lost lot on Ares helm 35 in Arrapago remnants....BUT:

Fairy's farewell gift = Ares body 35 mine ^^

Nice body to play with when I take Drg higher ;)
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Ares's Flanchard O!

Salvage is finally being nice again xD
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#1314 Apr 04 2010 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
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Finished Oathkeeper last night! DMG99 go!
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congrats!
i'm currently 3/6 on shoggoth. found a nice easy setup to burn it down. 5-6 DD 2 whm 1 rdm/whm 1 blm 1 pld. the pld is probably optional. make sure the whm and rdm have poison pots/sublimation, could be even easier if everyone had some. just zerg it down, no 2hours needed. it has pretty high defense so you probably want to stick w/ 1 hit WS. When i did it, we had 2 drg 1 sam 1 gaxe war 1 thf. remeber to build to 100+ tp before poping and making SCs at the start helps.
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Picked up my Drachen brais+1 this morning, meaning I now have a perfect HB set (until they come out with new stuff). Should I TP in these legs while soloing, since there can be a delay in the HP%+ triggering so that it doesn't count towards the healing breath, or keep using Homam pants?
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congrats!
i'm currently 3/6 on shoggoth. found a nice easy setup to burn it down. 5-6 DD 2 whm 1 rdm/whm 1 blm 1 pld. the pld is probably optional. make sure the whm and rdm have poison pots/sublimation, could be even easier if everyone had some. just zerg it down, no 2hours needed. it has pretty high defense so you probably want to stick w/ 1 hit WS. When i did it, we had 2 drg 1 sam 1 gaxe war 1 thf. remeber to build to 100+ tp before poping and making SCs at the start helps.


The setup we went with for the last two trials (the VNMs) was 1whm 2rdm 1brd 3mnk 2sam 5drg 1pld and 1blm that I can remember anyway. Everyone had poison pots for Shoggoth. The fly, I thought, was a little bit harder due to cursed sphere and PD up about 75% of the fight. In both cases they dropped pretty quickly.
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#1318 Apr 06 2010 at 8:21 AM Rating: Good
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Hecatomb Cap O!!!!
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#1319 Apr 06 2010 at 1:08 PM Rating: Good
umm.. i'm counting this as DRG achievement.

I have just got confirmation from playonline that they will accept my payment information over the phone so that I can log in and once again feel the glory of being a Tarutaru Dragoon!
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I finally got a bq ring after someone shouted to sell one, and then 4 from my ls took on the queen.

Fun fight, good times, gogo higher HB threshold!
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I have successfully freed myself from ffxi.

By way of getting hacked and being to lazy to send in some @#%^ing form *AGAIN* to get a character thats probably stripped now any way. I cant get rolled back again either. FUN STUFF HUH?!?

Its a shame that it happened now too. I was started to enjoy the game again.

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#1322 Apr 07 2010 at 7:19 PM Rating: Decent
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I have successfully freed myself from ffxi.

By way of getting hacked and being to lazy to send in some @#%^ing form *AGAIN* to get a character thats probably stripped now any way. I cant get rolled back again either. FUN STUFF HUH?!?

Its a shame that it happened now too. I was started to enjoy the game again.

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Well maybe if you didn't RUN CERTAIN PROGRAMS(and the like) you wouldn't have gotten hacked. >.>
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Well maybe if you didn't RUN CERTAIN PROGRAMS(and the like) you wouldn't have gotten hacked. >.>


All I had was windower and a very simple movement program. they were both completely clean.
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Homam Cosciales {mine}! Good night for my wife as well, she got Homam Manopolas which puts her at 3/5 Homam (hands, legs, and feet). Shes a lucky gal, lots-o-homam for her Pld and shes married to me...lucky lucky lucky!
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I suppose ill put this here, though i suppose its an intermediate step accomplishment.

2/10 baby blobdingnags for OAT Bradamante.
I got 2 baby blobs from my blobdingnag pop recently (but abyssite blew up poppin ><) I have recently completed another T2 color change so i can pop another Blob soon and have another T2 ready to go after that to jump right back in the saddle.

My friends and I are starting to get much better at these VNM fights so things are picking up now that we kill faster and with less deathga. /excited!

Bradamante....Here i come!
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homam pants get
askar body get
zahaks mail get

all in one dayish, give or take
oh well loving my new drg, lol
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Lesse here...

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homam hands get! 3/5 legs/body left!
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Holy ****...didnt realize people would rate down others for posting an accomplishment (although I know I shouldnt be suprised). But seriously, what the **** is going on here? Rather than a "Congratulations!" everyone is getting a "Go f*ck yourself for achieving something in the game!". Nicely done everyone, nicely done. You have successfully made the Dragoon thread the worst thread to post in! Everyone now has an achievement to be proud of!
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Holy ****...didnt realize people would rate down others for posting an accomplishment (although I know I shouldnt be suprised). But seriously, what the **** is going on here? Rather than a "Congratulations!" everyone is getting a "Go f*ck yourself for achieving something in the game!". Nicely done everyone, nicely done. You have successfully made the Dragoon thread the worst thread to post in! Everyone now has an achievement to be proud of!


Im gunna be honest, i think people rate down if you dont type with perfect spelling and grammer and puncuation. *shrugs* Ah well.
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#1332 Apr 16 2010 at 4:25 AM Rating: Good
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Today was a very successful day!

Killed 150 lizards to put me at 400/400 for the TotM trial, now to work on 300 Puks.

Also, finally got enough tokens to sponsor and win a Floor 100 Nyzul run, so Radiant Lance: get! Drakesbane, here we come :D
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This is gunna kill Bsphil (im sure it was you that said you have been after N hands for 2 years?) Weeellll

Last night i got N hands :D thats N feet and hands in 1 week >.> Now i just gotta raise 500k to get the cursed gloves
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finally learned drakesbane... 1700ish ws points XD
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#1335 Apr 16 2010 at 7:55 PM Rating: Good
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Not much of an accomplishment, but i tried my first Foragers mantle FoV Augment.

Foragers mantle: Str3, Atk15
Augment: Str-1, Dex+1, Vit-1

/sigh 300k down the tubes.
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That's way better than my -1str -1vit +1agi +2enmity attempt...
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After 6.5 years of having this game (though only 150 days of play), and being a career Dragoon the entire time (with my next highest as 72 Thief), I got...

Wyrm Armet!!!

Literally, this is *the* item for me. There is nothing that I wanted more :)

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#1339 Apr 19 2010 at 5:54 AM Rating: Good
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300/300 Puks killed on Sunday and hating them even more than before if that is even possible. God they took forever to kill with a 44 dmg halberd -.-;

Started a bit on VNM. Soloed tier 1 VNMs as DRG/BLM in west saruta and even got chain #4 420 xp at some point lol.
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You know you can kill it down to a sliver of HP with a regular lance and then switch back to Bradamante at the end, right? ^^;

I have 260 Puks left... it's miserable.

Congrats though! Now just kill that **** slime 5-10 times -.-;
#1341 Apr 20 2010 at 1:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Finished DMG 99 Oathkeeper last night. ^^

Can't wait till Dynamis tonight to try it out.
#1342 Apr 24 2010 at 4:42 PM Rating: Good
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Beat Maat the first time with my dragoon in 55 seconds last night. That's a server record on Asura, woot!
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Finished Puks 300/300.

I've started on my VNMs, and so far it's a HUGE pain in the ***. I don't think I'm looking forward to this at all ;-;
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So are you back or are you just BSing? Lol.
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So are you back or are you just BSing? Lol.
Smiley: dubious
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Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
Take the hint guys, please take the hint.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
#1348 Apr 25 2010 at 9:35 AM Rating: Good
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Perhaps I've been trolled ;-;
#1349 Apr 29 2010 at 6:18 PM Rating: Default
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Askar Korazin GET.
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Pikko wrote:
I can't freaking believe I didn't click this thread earlier. YOU LITTLE TWERPS!!
#1350 Apr 30 2010 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I had a dream i got askar korizan... does that count?
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#1351 Apr 30 2010 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Tuvae wrote:
I had a dream i got askar korizan... does that count?
Lucky *******.
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
Take the hint guys, please take the hint.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
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