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#1 Mar 18 2010 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
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1st off let me say, I'm not the one leveling SAM. A friend has been asking questions about whats good at 75 vs not good. One thing i want you guys to keep in mind is that he doesn't have alot of money to spend on SAM being his 1st 75 job.

I've used advice from other SAM's to piece together what i though was some decent yet cheap gear to get. Gear

As for Grips, and Ammo items im not too sure what you can get for <100k thats decent.

Next question on the agenda is how to merit Cat 2 on SAM.
Shikikoyo
Blade Bash
Overwhelm

All these seem pretty OP, Overwhelm seems like something you want 5/5 but between Shikikoyo and Blade Bash seem nice its just how to balance the recasts.

Anyone who can lend some knowledge would be nice, like in the terms of Polearms or how to build penta thrusts builds and it would be appreciated.
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#2 Mar 18 2010 at 3:47 PM Rating: Good
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I've used advice from other SAM's to piece together what i though was some decent yet cheap gear to get. Gear
Get him working on Sky/Sea/nyz ASAP. Rajas and Uth rings are a free must, askar hands are a free decent alternative to dusk(+1), Bushi is the 2nd earring of choice. Hachiman hands (6-hit) and PCC are the next buyable upgrade I would make to TP set, and Hachiman body/feet are cheap for WS (then upgrade to KO/rutters).
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As for Grips, and Ammo items im not too sure what you can get for <100k thats decent.
Tiphia sting is a cheapish/easy camp for TP ammo and maybe sachet for WS depending on race. Pole (~30k) is grip of choice unless you can make a better 6-hit with rose (free, but takes a lot of work).
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Next question on the agenda is how to merit Cat 2 on SAM.
Shikikoyo
Blade Bash
Overwhelm
1rst: 5/5 Overwhelm
2nd: 4/5 ikki (never gear for Zanshin, but this is a decent low merit priority buff)
3nd: 1 shikki or BBash (I have BBash, but it depends on what group composition you normally have)

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Anyone who can lend some knowledge would be nice, like in the terms of Polearms or how to build penta thrusts builds and it would be appreciated.
read: nya for suggestions/what other people are working with. I would suggest starting with crab sushi + capping acc then adding as much atk as possible.
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#3 Mar 18 2010 at 3:52 PM Rating: Excellent
For Grips, he'll want either a Pole Grip or a Rose Strap, depending on the situation. Since he doesn't have a Rajas Ring (I'm assuming he doesn't given the gear you have listed on that page), he can get a six hit build with full Store TP merits, a Rose Strap, Hachiman Kote, and an Ecphoria Ring (though between the Store TP on the Chiv. Chain and the Brutal Earring he may not need the Store TP from the Ecphoria Ring, but I'm too lazy to do the math for it). Having a six-hit build will benefit him far more than 2% Double Attack from the Pole Grip, but once he does get a Rajas Ring, he'll want to swap the Rose Strap in for a Pole Grip.

Going with the gear shown and that he's wanting to keep it decently cheap, I would recommend this for his TP and WS sets.

TP

Hagun/Rose Strap (Pole Grip)/Blank/Tiphia Sting (Smart Grenade)
Turban/Chiv Chain/Fowling Earring/Brutal Earring
Haubergeon/Hachiman Kote/Woodsman Ring/Woodsman Ring (Rajas Ring)
Amemet +1/Swift Belt/Byakko's/Fuma

WS

Hagun/Rose Strap(Pole Grip)/Blank/Tiphia Sting (Smart Grenade)
Wyvern/Chiv Chain/Fowling Earring/Brutal Earring
Haubergeon/Alkyoneus's/Ruby Ring/Ruby Ring(Rajas Ring)
Smilodon +1/Warwolf Belt/Myochin Haidate/Hachiman Sune-Ate (Rutter)

For an ammo piece, if he doesn't have the gil to get a Tiphia Sting, he could do the quest for the Smart Grenade, which has a hidden effect of +4 Attack. However, it can still be thrown, so it's something to be careful about.

After Overwhelm (which really any Samurai should merit to full) it's more of a personal preference really. I like having Shikikoyo for the sake of being able to set someone else up to Weaponskill (also comes in handy if you're in a party with a Dancer), but something like Blade Bash could also come in handy for those situations where you need to stun something but no one else is available to for one reason or another.
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#4 Mar 23 2010 at 8:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Vlorsutes post is pretty much bang on
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