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#1 Dec 13 2009 at 10:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Howdy,

I'm still new to SAM (only 54 at the moment). I have noticed a lot of SAMs TPing in STR over ACC gear. As a WAR, this is something I would never do unless I'm capped (or close to capped) ACC and at first just thought these SAMs were doinitrong...

Since then, I have considered Zanshin and wonder whether that allows SAMs to have lower ACC in place for other stats so my question becomes, how much ACC do you target and how much should I at 55 given there is much less haste/sTP options.

I'm mostly focused on Polearm at the moment but interested in how it should change for soboro (not that I plan to level on anything but birds). In case it matters, my TP build at 55 will be:

polearm, mythril+1, non-exciting Bow, arrow (will use tiphia at 59)
Walkure mask, PCC, Spikex2
Jaridah Peti, o.kote, sniper, rajas
Jaguar, swift, AF (well will get them shortly), fuma

I use life belt if I dont have haste AND dont have hasso up.

Obviously I will use haub soon and all the other normal upgrades, just not sure what combo I should be TPing in with swift/life belt and sniper/STR+4 rings.

Thanks a lot.





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#2 Dec 14 2009 at 12:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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You should be TP'ing in accuracy until you hit the 95% cap (which at that level is difficult, especially since you are getting into colibri range). STR should be for WS's post 60. I assume the SAM's you are seeing are the bandwagoners that are all "ZOMGSTR4SAMWTF!?"
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#3 Dec 14 2009 at 1:12 AM Rating: Good
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1. Ignore the noobs TPing in STR over ACC.

2. On Pentathrust (assuming you have it), you shouldn't be switching in +STR instead of ACC/ATK unless you are eating sushi or getting madrigal. Stick to twin Snipers, will give you more consistent WS damage. Btw meat mithkabobs are good on birds, it's relatively cheaper than sushi too (assuming you have the accuracy buffs to use them).

3. Soboro is good, but chances are if you're rolling with a BRD or COR, you'll get more mileage out of Polearm's 25% bonus damage against Colibri.

You seem to be on the right track, just a quick note that it's the 1-hit GKT WS (Yukikaze, Gekko, Kasha) which take advantage of stacking +STR...seeing as you don't get any of these before 60, none of the SAMs you see should be using +STR on ring slots yet.



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#4 Dec 14 2009 at 3:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Great, thanks for the replies guys.

Just hit 58 and with hasso up about 60% of the time
parsing at 71.28% acc with crab sushi (without a brd/cor) before SH and 88.2% with cor and using meat with SH+1... crazy party, got 20k/hour+ from 54-58 (although they didn't sync to me until i was 56).

I will just full time life belt which seems a lot better at the moment. Kicked a DRG's *** by about 20% which was a surprise ^^

I have soboro as well but don't really intend to play around with it until 60 as you said, get better WS around then.

My thinking is the polearm is probably better if there are a bunch of other good DD, but if I end up copping a lot of feather tickle, maybe soboro would be better as it would lesson the impact... probably not enough to make any difference but any thoughts?

This is also the time I was thinking of trying /drg with wyvern earring and soboro. Is /drg okay then or is it not really suitable until later.

Thanks heaps for the help, rate up.
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#5 Dec 14 2009 at 1:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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If acc didn't contribute to WS freq they would be pretty close, but because it does it's no contest.

Life vs swift- at around the haste/acc rating you're at (w/ haste/hasso) +4% haste and 10acc are about equal, however, with polearm's lower atk from skill, and given you're not eating meat, /WAR and soforth, the -atk on swift is hurting you more than the +acc is helping you, putting life in the lead.

WS- for penta only switch out haste (for acc/atk), for Yuki go STRSTRSTR

soboro- has ridiculous DPS at that point which is the main reason you should use it, but the amount of WS you'll be able to get off and the decreased loss of dmg from feather tickle are good reasons too.

/DRG- I probably wouldn't till 70+ (HJ, more haste, etc)
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