Tachi Rana againFollow

Hello

Firstly i'd like to say i'm a career war and the need came to level sam which i am enjoying very much

Couple of quick questions on rana as i got myself a windslicer from nyzul, my sam is 72 atm. But i thinking about the ws and how it stacks up against Raging Rush.

Gear wise i will need a similar set up ACC / Atk / Str? i know there is no crit modifier with TP like RR. But i wanted to ask the experts

My Sams gear atm is pretty standard i do need to do a few things to get it into the realms of competent but i am working on this steadily.

Second question is i have the renkia chart for planning SC's and i almost have this memorized. But the one i use there is no reference to Mythic weapon skills Tachi Rana, Kings Justice etc.

Is there an updated version out there? if so we can i get my hands on one

Last question is completely unrelated to Rana. On weapon skill acc do this effect the status effects on the mob better? IE on gekko does the silence proc more and last longer if you have added Weapon skill acc from equipment.

I know theese are pretty basic questions and i do appreciate the advice

Thanks for reading

Rana is almost exclusively used to self-sc darkness: Rana=>Gekko

It still has a pretty decent strength bonus (35% instead of 75%), though accuracy would matter (only a x 1 damage modifier). So at 100 TP it's essentially a KJ or 0 crit RR. Not very impressive compared to solo Gekko that gets a ~1.6 modifier, 75% str, and attack boost.

Rana is just...mediocre by itself, so really the only time you use it is when the damage decrease is being replaced with darkness damage from Gekko. So you're never going to expect really impressive nubers from it. Main pieces of gear that might be better off using is haub, ohat, an acc ring, etc. Though honestly unless you completely whiff the WS it prolly won't make a difference.

Rana has never been in any of my macros, but since I use spellcast I can use Rana from the menu and still get full gear swaps.

Rana can do really good damage against weaker monsters, or when your super buffed and /WAR. Buff's really don't do much for Y/G/K due to their 2.0 cRatio multiplier (basically guaranteed capped attack). Also Hagun really sucks for Rana, its worse then using a martial buhj on RR. Oni is the better GKT for that, but then your Y/G/K damage takes a dive.

So basically, if your ever buffed with double Minuet's or Chaos Roll and /WAR, then Rana might be something to look into.

Gekko or any single hit will miss 5%.

Rana at capped accuracy is a bit different because you have at least 3 attempts to land. So the likelihood of missing all three hits is less than 1% iirc (0.05^3 no?).

Don't forget the WS mod itself has a bonus to accuracy, so you'll be at capped accuracy more often. Can't really remember how zanshin works with WS, but DA also has a 7-17% chance to go off on WS, which makes the likelihood of missing a Rana very slim.

Nothing to do with nyzul weapons being special, just that multihits should never miss unless you fail.

Well Rana as mentioned is the "exclusive" darkness starter, just to top the Damage with the SC. But, the mod is 35% STR so still not bad altho the damage multiplier is nowhere near that of Y/G/K. My WS gear is pretty good and i average out at about 800 per Rana. And 1000 - 1100 with Gekko.

Also it depends largely on what weapon you use, sadly the TP bonus with the Hagun doesnt contribute to the DMG...

My advice for Rana would be to mix around some ACC and STR, i dont know what gear you have so can't really say much more, ive tried using attack, but cant see the difference.

Gl :)

Well the biggest dive for Rana is that most SAM's are using Hagun when their doing it. Hagun does nothing for Rana but boost's Y/G/K damage by 20% and because most SAM's are built around a 6-hit WS spam then obviously Y/G/K + Hagun wins.

My question is what does Rana with an Oni allow you to do for 6-hit or possibly a 5-hit? It has slightly more TP for WS, would that lower the sTP requirements enough to obtain a reasonable 5-hit? Or allow a 6-hit without requiring Usakane feet or hachi hands / feet?

To be completely honest, I think Hagun + Rana is *decent* considering that Hagun's TP bonus applies to Rana's accuracy, letting you use more attack and STR gear where applicable. However, Onimaru's superior base damage and attack/accuracy bonus would still be better for it. It's very important to use strong attack food such as bison steak and/or be /war to make best use of it. Other than that, it is merely a SC opener. A very reliable one because it rarely misses.

Also consider that Rana does not have a stat debuff associated with it, and so often it's just a better idea to use another WS.

Edited, Feb 4th 2010 9:05pm by StephisaMAN