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#1 Oct 03 2009 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
So I finally got my Rajas not too long ago. Been doing a 6 hit build, reading through the forums and such. I'm currently tping in:

Soboro, Pole Grip and Grenade.
Wal-mart turban, PCC, Bushi and Brutal.
Hauby, Hachiman Kote, Rajas, Woodsman.
Forager's, Swift, Byakko's and Fuma.

WSing in (which gets me my return, not as worried):

Wyvern Helm, Chiv chain, Suppa, Brutal.
Domaru, Pallas, Rajas and Ruby ring.
Smilodon +1, Warwolf, Fourth Division, Hachiman.

Is the general concensus Hachiman Kote + Fuma, or Dusk Gloves + Hachiman Sune-Ate?
Or is there another alternative besides Usukane?

I could look at those math equations all day and they mean hardly anything to me, I have trouble subtracting at the best of times. I have max store TP merits just in case that makes a difference. Anyhow, I realize how many threads there are about this, but always nice to confirm what you're doing is right. Thanks in advance.
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#2 Oct 03 2009 at 7:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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Is the general concensus Hachiman Kote + Fuma, or Dusk Gloves + Hachiman Sune-Ate?
Or is there another alternative besides Usukane?

I could look at those math equations all day and they mean hardly anything to me, I have trouble subtracting at the best of times. I have max store TP merits just in case that makes a difference. Anyhow, I realize how many threads there are about this, but always nice to confirm what you're doing is right. Thanks in advance.
If you have your 5/5 sTP merits, then you can use Rose Strap, and have both haste gloves and feet. These are my current sets: TP and WS, where I use that alternative. The Ecphoria Ring is there due to not having a Brutal on(/DRG) but either way it gives me +10 sTP on TP and +15 on WS, which works out to a 6 hit in the end (you either need 11 everywhere, 10TP/13+WS, or 13+TP/whatever on WS). You would be fine with the current WS gear you have and using Rose Strap and haste gloves in your current setup.
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#3 Oct 03 2009 at 9:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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#4 Oct 03 2009 at 10:13 AM Rating: Good
Alright, sounds good. Guess I'll switch over to Sandy and buy myself a rose strap and get the Dusk + Fuma going then. That way I only lose on the DA, but not a big deal since haste seems to win out anyhow.

Thanks guys.
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Alright, sounds good. Guess I'll switch over to Sandy and buy myself a rose strap and get the Dusk + Fuma going then. That way I only lose on the DA, but not a big deal since haste seems to win out anyhow.


Rose Straps good, but i've just bought a White Tathlum, because if not, you'll need to tp in ecphoria ring or chiv chain, with 5/5 STP merits. I don't like to TP in either of those items.

I'm 1 rank off Rose Strap, and I'm gonna TP in Rajas, Brutal, Rose Strap, White Tathlum. WS in Rajas, Rose strap, Brutal, White Tathlum, Hachiman sune-ate. I'm 4/5 Stp, and would like to have 1 TE merit just because.
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#6 Oct 03 2009 at 5:49 PM Rating: Good
Ya, I checked out the thatlum, it's running around 3 mil on my server, and I'm trying to save for Hagun. For now, Rose Strap will have to do.
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#7 Oct 04 2009 at 3:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Ya, I checked out the thatlum, it's running around 3 mil on my server, and I'm trying to save for Hagun. For now, Rose Strap will have to do.


Ya, Hagun is much more important, and badass.

Theres a few good items for SAM around the 3M mark, if I had to put them in order of best to least best (excuse my English) I'd do this:

Hagun > Hauby+1 > Osode > White Tathlum

If you have an item in your inv lower down the list, like Osode, sell it for a Hagun or Hauby+1 and use Hacmiman body to WS in.

Theres nothing like popping off a 1.5-1.6K WS @ 200% TP (after a Sekka) with a DA when both hits are at the higher end of pDIF.
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#8 Oct 06 2009 at 12:24 PM Rating: Decent
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I read somewhere that when store tp is capped you need 11 more store TP from somewhere to complete a 6 hit and 44 more for 5 hit. To me 5 hit at that cost isn't worth it.

There are alot of different combinations of gear/food that can get you to a 6 hit. The rajas ring and brutal earing are 6 and getting the other 5 is pretty easy, without rajas your options are more limited.
#9 Nov 23 2009 at 9:07 AM Rating: Decent
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few posts up you "dont like to tp in echo ring"

echo 4 acc tip sting 2acc 6acc total.

so you get tor ring and white tah instead

so basically you spent 5.5 millish for 1 acc. yup great advice to people .
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few posts up you "dont like to tp in echo ring"

echo 4 acc tip sting 2acc 6acc total.

so you get tor ring and white tah instead

so basically you spent 5.5 millish for 1 acc. yup great advice to people .


He was telling him what he uses more than giving advice really. I'd consider this advice for someone who already has a Toreador's ring and an endgame shell that does Sandworm, would be a free 1acc upgrade.

edit: lulz, Sandworm not Dark Ixion.

Edited, Nov 23rd 2009 1:34pm by Dudester
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#11 Nov 23 2009 at 11:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Or is there another alternative besides Usukane?

An alternative that's a slight upgrade over Hachi + [something else] is wearing Nobushi Kyahan from ZNM. Downside is that it requires you to use Ecphoria for TP, and if I remember correctly, AF+1 pants for WS.
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