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Looks promising. Probably the best thing to come out of the version update, sadly.

6-hit from brutal, that, c.chain, and rajas = no more excuse for askar, no more use for ACP body on SAM whatsoever.

for me, it means delay 480 lance 5-hit with dusk hands, usu feet, rajas, PCC, brutal, new strap (and connecting 1st two hits of penta).

Rose STrap
Store TP+4
Campaign: "Store TP"+20
Lv60 All jobs

Aug. Head item
Champion's Galea with
Haste+3% Enhances Snapshot effect 3%
Evasion+ 10 StoreTP+4


Main: Hagun or Soboro or if your ballin Amanomurakumo after KaitenWS
Sub: Rose Strap (4)
Range:O
Ammo: White Tathlum (2)
Head: Champion's Galea (4)
Neck: Justice Torque/PCC/Ancient Torque
L.Ear:Brutal Earring(1)
R.Ear:Bushinomimi
Body:Usukane Haramaki(6)
Hands:Hachiman Kote +1(9)
L.Ring:Ecphoria Ring(1)
R.Ring: Rajas Ring(5)
Back:Cuchulitan Mantle/Smilo Mantle/ Cerberus+1
Waist:Velocious Belt/Warwolf Belt
Legs:Byakko's Haidate/Usukane Hizayoroi/Haichiryu Legs or w/e (STR+10) again if your ballin
Feet:Usukane Sune-Ate (7)

Thats storeTP 74 with full Merits(39)+(35). 11.5x 1.74= 20.01 or 5 hits to 100TP
(THIS IS HOW YOU CALCULATE STORETP INTO YOUR TP!!)

0-100TP 5 hit:450-(450x.26~ Hasso 10%-feet2% waist6% legs5% head3%)= 333x5= 1665/60=27.75
WS-100TP 5hit:333x4= 1332~22.2 after WS
Max Haste 5 hit: 450-(450x.8)= 90x5= 450/60= 7.5-- 90x4= 360/60= 6

0-100TP 6 hit: 450-(450x.36 hasso 10%- Cap Gear haste) = 288x6= 1728/60=28.8
WS-100TP 6 hit: 288x5=1440~24 after WS
Max Haste 6 hit:450-(450x.8)= 90x6= 540/60= 9 -- ^ look up for 5 hit!

Haste=Tp- TP=WS WS=What SAMs are in your MeritPT/HNM/SKY/SEA shell for!

5 Hit setup, acc better than most average SAMs
Still working with managable Haste, but realisticly StoreTP, Double attack, Barrage yada yada are all forms of haste, if you think of them as ways to reach 100TP in a shorter time. And if you really more worried about having haste over storeTP, SAM isnt your Job. Shaving 450delay off your race to 100TP is a big step. Most SAMs I know don't have more than 14% Haste(swift4%, byakko5%, walmart hat5%) anyway, if that.

Only things that I'm worried about in this setup is the ACC of it, and how to obtain the grip and head. Other than that,
Hauby+1 gives more att over usu, and ace's helm gives +7 acc. Black Tathlum gives more attack and acc, meh.
Off the top of my head I can think of armor that a give you +28STR more for WS than this setup
3grip-2ammo-7head-2body-6hands-5L.ring-3feet
Which if i'm correct (you do the math) can be about
28x.75STR mod =21x.83lv75 = 17.43x 2.4(i think this is melee cap)= 41.8x 1.875=78.4 x1.19 (overwhelm)= 93.3 or 94 more damage on 100TP WS, but thats only if your are capping attack on mob.(only doing it /WAR or with BRD)

WS wont be as high as with the common setup, but being able to skillchain off of meditate every 2.5 minutes and use sekkenoki will definetly make up for the loss in damage from WS. Soboro SAMs feel me on this one.

I have great experiences from playing SAM with COR in merits, getting 20TP per hit has to be the best 2handed melee experiance/ DoT i know of. Only DoT that would possibly outparse this SAM related would have to be relic.(From occasional 2.5 damage and the omfg 3.0 60%STR mod on kaiten)

If your having problems hitting, say it be byakko in sky or Dark Ixion, pop some Marrylary pizza for alittle more attack and acc, if your getting over 88% i say toss on some red curry or w/e is highest attack boosting food.THink you need massive attack to cap on curry though, I personaly never /WAR on SAM so attack is usualy sitting 450ish /DRG or /DNC.

This setup is not for everyone I know, most pieces probaly taking up your entire time you'll be playing FFXI, HA, but its like any other ubber piece in the game worth going for imo.



Edited, Jul 20th 2009 4:27pm by Coyoteblackzero

No reason for ACP body? Hm.

Right now I have ACC/Store TP augmented Neuvo that gets me 6-hit with Rajas, Brutal, and Chiv Chain. Is Rose Strap/Haub a better combo than Pole strap/Neuvo with those augments? (Att+10>DA+2%)? Sounds correct to me, just want to clarify.

Edit: This would also be Inv+1 since I could sell Mythril Grip+1 and use Rose for both Hagun and Soboro. ^^b

Edited, Jul 20th 2009 3:51pm by ChronoDragoon

Dunno about high haste - it comes out ahead with at least a total of 24%.

So Haste + Hasso = this build starts pulling ahead.

This means a 6-hit build without Sacrificing Fumas/BHaidate/Dusk for those without Usu... wow... I think this was more of a buff for the SAM job than anything NIN got this update

lol SE. Idea always come late. Store TP strap has been mentioned since the 1st day they introduce strap into the game, and it took them this long to implement one in game.

You can get it from allied notes. 30k if you're allied with Sandy, or 45k otherwise. Not too bad

Also of note in this update is the Bull Necklace which is the highest non-Justice Torque source of STR available in the neck slot. one of the highest non-Justice Torque pieces available >.<

In campaign, it becomes ridiculous (+25 STR)... but if you have AN to blow and no Sea access it could be worthwhile *shrug*

Edited, Jul 21st 2009 2:18pm by Beltenebros

This actually isn't true.

Campaign in the months leading up to this patch has been going bad. Many servers have had beastmen hold most of the zones, making exp gain sh*t, and a huge effort to take them back, mainly because of lack of interest.

With some of the A class armor they have now added to top tier campaign rewards, SE have just recruited a large portion of Vanadiels players to the past. (especially because Vanadiel sh*ts out SAM's)

Its actually very clever off them, especially now campaign is practically complete.

EDIT: Gaining the Allied notes isn't hard, but it will take a lot of time to do, which means SE can be happy that campaign battles will be full up. It'll also show ppl who have never bothered with the event, how much fun it can be. For many ppl now @75, EXP will be the bonus, AN's will be what ppl will be after.

Edited, Jul 22nd 2009 8:22am by Sandmasterr

Meditate for starting capital.

you'll see the folly in this once you start doing it a lot i think. sorry to be cryptic, but i think experience will be best teacher that adding .3 or something per hit is going to be less of a big deal than -dmg% or evasion or whatever (of course you can put evasion on the mirke, but still). to put it another way, running out of TP probably won't be the limiting factor for your SAM/DNC (not even close).

even the low man healing situation, i don't think ACP body to that use will prove helpful, but like above, try it and see.

What do you guys think of using Attila's Earring with the Rose Grip and Dusk Gloves? You save 2 M on not getting a White Tathlum to keep 6 hit, and leave room for a future Black Tathlum upgrade. You can probably augment Attila's Earring too.

This is what I was thinking but Attila's Earring is out of stock atm.

Hagun
Rose Strap
Tiphia Sting
Askar Zucchetto
Peacock Amulet
Brutal Earring
Attila's Earring* (have Suppanomimi for other jobs)
Haubergeon+1
Dusk Gloves
Ulthalam's Ring
Rajas Ring
Swift Belt
Forager's Mantle
Byakko's Haidate
Fuma Sune-ate



Edited, Jul 24th 2009 2:37am by Mankind